Nfl 2024

[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by huncho

Lamar is kinda quietly having an insane season

It helps to have the #2 running back in the league behind him
And the #1 defense in the league. Lamar has never done anything in the playoffs but with the aforementioned components, they might.

[austinp]

Originally Posted by huncho

Lamar is kinda quietly having an insane season

We’ve seen this before. Let’s see how the playoffs go. Really pulling for him this year.


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[huncho]

how do the commanders keep pulling wins off like this lol

[rmagoo57]

That was fun to watch here in Detroit!

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by huncho

how do the commanders keep pulling wins off like this lol

They are well coached and have developed a winning culture. But it doesn't hurt that there have been a few breaks going their way.

[GB-man]

Lamar Allen and Barkley all seem to have a legit case. I think the intangibles favor Allen (also Vegas is rarely wrong) but he appeared to have injured his throwing hand yesterday so don’t be shocked if he looks middling the last two games. That could very well open the door particularly if Saquon gets the 268 yards.

Then again, if they are rolling Kenny Pickett next week I can’t imagine Dallas not selling out entirely for the run. Two birds with one stone. It’s the logical move as Kenny Pickett is butt cheeks and take the record somewhat off the table with a strong showing.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Lamar Allen and Barkley all seem to have a legit case. I think the intangibles favor Allen (also Vegas is rarely wrong) but he appeared to have injured his throwing hand yesterday so don’t be shocked if he looks middling the last two games. That could very well open the door particularly if Saquon gets the 268 yards.

Then again, if they are rolling Kenny Pickett next week I can’t imagine Dallas not selling out entirely for the run. Two birds with one stone. It’s the logical move as Kenny Pickett is butt cheeks and take the record somewhat off the table with a strong showing.

I think Lamar's case is the weakest of the three. The team's record hurts him, as does Henry's contribution to his apparent success. Allen has the best chance, even injured. The team wouldn't be contending without his performance, he's a QB, and Vegas has already annointed him.

Even with the rushing record Saquon is hindered by not being a QB and not being the sole reason the Iggles are doing so well. When Hurts was concussed the door opened for Washington to take the win.

[timepiececurator]

Just a miserable bears fan checking in here… 😭

[huncho]

here are the current mvp odds. Lamar moved up quite a bit this week and Saquon fell a lot in the last few weeks, i think he was like +600 or 700 at one point

honestly if the Ravens win their last 2 games and Lamar ends with something like 40-4 td-int i think it's a wrap and he wins again

[GB-man]

Might be a good bet. Texans are beat up and the browns are the browns. Allen unquestionably hurt that throwing hand. It was clear as day.

[Maleg]

Just when the Bears looked like they couldn't get worse, they can't put up more than a field goal against a depressed Seattle team. The entire Bears coaching staff proved to be an accumulation of incompetent boobs. They didn't even look like a professional organization.

[Robinn]

That game between Bears and Seahawks was a real disappointment. I hope we don't have another game like this in the near future AT LEAST.

[twitch54]

Originally Posted by timepiececurator

Just a miserable bears fan checking in here… 😭

Are you old enough to remember 1985 ? perhaps that can cheer you up, certainly last nights game didn't, heck the Cubbies could have put more points on the board !

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by twitch54

Are you old enough to remember 1985 ? perhaps that can cheer you up, certainly last nights game didn't, heck the Cubbies could have put more points on the board !

The '85 Bears are proof that a mediocre QB with a good RB and an incredible defense is the path to the promised land. The 2000 Ravens confirmed the concept.

The Bears coaching staff the last couple years have been historically aweful. The team was chock full of talented players, but no amount of talent can overcome incompetent coaching. From an inability to scheme to an inability to manage details the Bears coaches left the team unprepared to play football above the middle school level.

The good news is that they will all be gone next year. The bad news is that no coach with championship credentials will want to work under the Kevin Warren regime. The Bears will likely stay in this pergatory until Virgina passes and the heirs are forced to sell the team to pay off the estate taxes.

[GB-man]

I can’t believe the giants trying to throw away the #1 pick by beating Indy today lol

I took the colts and am a little bitter haha

[GB-man]

Who else thinks Sirianni is going to let Saquon break the record next week against the giants. This might be the biggest middle finger in the history of football if they pull that off he takes MVP and they win the chip lol

[huncho]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Who else thinks Sirianni is going to let Saquon break the record next week against the giants. This might be the biggest middle finger in the history of football if they pull that off he takes MVP and they win the chip lol

i hope they let him loose against us. story book trade and season for him and the giants deserve that kind of humiliation at this point

[Krash]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Who else thinks Sirianni is going to let Saquon break the record next week against the giants. This might be the biggest middle finger in the history of football if they pull that off he takes MVP and they win the chip lol

It looks like the game won’t have any bearing on the seeding. Eagles are locked in at #2 seed. So I doubt Hurts, Barkley, Brown, Smith, and the entire OL will play against the Giants. But some are suggesting they might play a series or two, and then take it one step at a time from there.


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[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Krash

It looks like the game won’t have any bearing on the seeding. Eagles are locked in at #2 seed. So I doubt Hurts, Barkley, Brown, Smith, and the entire OL will play against the Giants. But some are suggesting they might play a series or two, and then take it one step at a time from there.


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Yeah I get it. But Barkley puts up 100 yards like nothing. He could do it in first half against the giants. Mark my words they are going to give it a run and he’s going to be so close they won’t have the discipline to throw in the towel. I personally would go for it if I was the coach. Just my gut feeling.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Yeah I get it. But Barkley puts up 100 yards like nothing. He could do it in first half against the giants. Mark my words they are going to give it a run and he’s going to be so close they won’t have the discipline to throw in the towel. I personally would go for it if I was the coach. Just my gut feeling.

I agree. Sirianni is an emotional touchy feely coach. He'll want to see Saquon get the record.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Maleg

I agree. Sirianni is an emotional touchy feely coach. He'll want to see Saquon get the record.

He pulled Barkley from the game in the 4th QTR yesterday when it was pretty obvious that he could have easily gained another 30 to 50, maybe more yards in the game.

Kenny Gainwell and Tyron Davis-Price mopped the floor and were in the game for the last several series.

Hopefully, they’re focused on bigger and better things. Like a banner hanging from the rafters.

But we’ll see…


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[GB-man]

I honestly hope he breaks the record and gets the MVP. I’m tired of all the race baiting arguments on social media about why Josh and not Lamar. Josh was statistically better than Lamar last year and lost. Now stats are the argument for him this year. Derrick Henry out here forgotten about while he casually has 1800 yards with a game to go. Like that isn’t huge. I’m far more concerned with playing the ravens in the playoffs considering our suspect run defense. Joe burrow gets discounted because he has the best receiving core in the NFL but not Lamar for having a potential 2k rusher?

At least they will have to beat us in buffalo should we both make it out of round 1.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Krash

He pulled Barkley from the game in the 4th QTR yesterday when it was pretty obvious that he could have easily gained another 30 to 50, maybe more yards in the game.

Kenny Gainwell and Tyron Davis-Price mopped the floor and were in the game for the last several series.

Hopefully, they’re focused on bigger and better things. Like a banner hanging from the rafters.

But we’ll see…


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it's understandable to pull him in the 4th though, by that point their bodies are so tired the chances of an injury go up every minute they're out there, especially for running backs

with a fresh start next week i assume they let him try to get it and see how it goes. i imagine they won't really try to force it but i do think they give it a go

[huncho]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I honestly hope he breaks the record and gets the MVP. I’m tired of all the race baiting arguments on social media about why Josh and not Lamar. Josh was statistically better than Lamar last year and lost. Now stats are the argument for him this year. Derrick Henry out here forgotten about while he casually has 1800 yards with a game to go. Like that isn’t huge. I’m far more concerned with playing the ravens in the playoffs considering our suspect run defense. Joe burrow gets discounted because he has the best receiving core in the NFL but not Lamar for having a potential 2k rusher?

At least they will have to beat us in buffalo should we both make it out of round 1.

Henry so casually puts up insane numbers that people don't even pay attention to him doing crazy shit anymore lol. i still can't believe scouts saw what he did at bama and let him go 45th

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Krash

He pulled Barkley from the game in the 4th QTR yesterday when it was pretty obvious that he could have easily gained another 30 to 50, maybe more yards in the game.

Kenny Gainwell and Tyron Davis-Price mopped the floor and were in the game for the last several series.

Hopefully, they’re focused on bigger and better things. Like a banner hanging from the rafters.

But we’ll see…


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The Team, the players, the o-line, the fans want the record. It's an accomplishment that is at their fingertips and will always be there. Everyone remembers Dickerson's year. Who remembers the '84 Raiders?

And, the record and a title aren't mutually exclusive. Saquon can get the record and the Eagles can make a title run. I think choosing the business decision to intentionally sacrifice the record over the football decision to play your best football will have unintended consequences on the remainder of the season. If the Eagles sit Saquon next week and don't win the title the football fans will never forgive Lurie or Sirianni.

[GB-man]

Schefter is adamant they won’t be playing him next week. I am befuddled because at the end of the day it’s a huge deal and I’d bet dollars that as hyper competitive athletes the whole team wants this.

The coach will have to be the adult while simultaneously upsetting the entire team to pull the rug. Maybe he does and Barkley runs 200 a game all the way through the superbowl and he looks good. Maybe it’s just football and they have a bad game against a good team and don’t even make it out of the NFC to begin with.

I think as an outsider I’m naive thinking Philly is a f*** it kind of town that wants the record. I’m trying to think how I’d feel if he was on the bills. I think I remain steadfast I’d give it a go.

[Krash]

If they play Barkley, then you’d have to play the entire OL (Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Bechtel, Johnson). And presumably AJ Brown, and Devonte Smith. You can make a good argument that everyone of those are pro bowlers.

If any one of them get hurt, that would be an utter disaster. People will scream bloody murder.

I’d be surprised if any of them play, but I could be wrong.

The Eagles have much higher aspirations. They have just as good a shot as anyone in terms of winning it all. Why f’k it up?


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[MickCollins1916]

I agree that heaven forbid someone gets banged up, the decision to play Philly starters would look mad in hindsight.

I’d be a no at this point just bc it is game 17 and Dickerson did it in 16, and people would potentially see any record achieved as diminished for that reason anyways. I just don’t think it’s worth the risk.

Not quite the same bc a sacred 40yo record isn’t teetering just inches in front of him, but I want to see JA17 nailed to the bench this week against NE.

If Lamar accounts for umpteen more tuddies this wknd and wins MVP over Josh, whoopdy-do, give the man his flowers, etc, but I am sure Allen would agree resting for a run towards the shiny one they’ll hand out in NOLA is more important.

[SDGT3]

For me, Barkley already won the MVP with over 2k yards in 16 games. Where would the Eagles be without him? Lamar and Josh, — nice years, but with Derrick Henry at 1800 yards and #2 in the NFL for rushing yards and the Ravens #1 defense in the league getting the ball back for the Ravens offense, it’s watered down accolades for him. I’d put Joe Burrow with good receivers and little to no help on the O line and his stats over everyone but Barkley, but the Bengals record doesn’t fit the profile of having a MVP winner.

To get that record, the entire Eagles offense would have to most likely play into the 3rd quarter. If just one teammate turns an ankle, the coach will never hear the end of it and could possibly impact his longevity at the organization.

[twitch54]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Yeah I get it. But Barkley puts up 100 yards like nothing. He could do it in first half against the giants.

heck, he gained over a 100yds in the first qtr a couple of games ago. I really believe while he wants the record he's truly focused on the bigger prize and given the Eagles strength in the trenches on both sides of the ball (best two tackles in football) this could prove to be their year again.

A Bills / Vikings SB matchup would be the best though, two 4 time losers, ones gotta win !