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Old 27 December 2017, 08:13 AM   #4201
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Is it the angle of th picture or does the watch look absurdly big on his wrist?
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Old 27 December 2017, 06:56 PM   #4202
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Is it the angle of th picture or does the watch look absurdly big on his wrist?
The watch is oddly shaped and his wrists aren't big... a bad combination imho...

...on the bright side he can always pay for wrist augmentation or buy any other smaller watch he wants
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Old 27 December 2017, 07:00 PM   #4203
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Old 27 December 2017, 07:02 PM   #4204
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I’m sure there must be other RMs that would suit him better than that one.


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Old 30 December 2017, 05:32 PM   #4205
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Hi Guys, planning to buy an RM watch, a first for this brand. Just looking at base models (if there are any for this brand ��). Where are the best places to get one? Do you think a used/mint condition would be a better choice to avoid huge depreciation? Thanks!
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Old 30 December 2017, 05:54 PM   #4206
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looks like watches that would wear well with a tapout or affliction shirt :)
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Old 30 December 2017, 10:12 PM   #4207
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Does anyone have a copy of the RM Monographie 1? Thinking about buying one from Amazon and just wondered if you guys think it's worth buying?
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Old 30 December 2017, 10:44 PM   #4208
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Does anyone have a copy of the RM Monographie 1? Thinking about buying one from Amazon and just wondered if you guys think it's worth buying?


I’ve got one. It’s a top quality book.


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Old 30 December 2017, 11:24 PM   #4209
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Great pic of three Bubbas... Asia, dark knight and Yas Marina...
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Old 31 December 2017, 05:19 AM   #4210
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Great pic of three Bubbas... Asia, dark knight and Yas Marina...


Excellent picture of a good trio


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Old 31 December 2017, 09:25 AM   #4211
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I am starting to get a little frustrated.

The brand is hotter than ever, every piece is going well over retail and it is becoming increasingly difficult to source watches.

i'm itching for something new/now, and it's a total crap shoot!!!!!!!!
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Old 9 January 2018, 12:01 PM   #4212
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US price increase today.

Can't say I am surprised.
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Old 9 January 2018, 12:28 PM   #4213
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US price increase today.

Can't say I am surprised.


Me neither. By how much?
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Old 10 January 2018, 05:31 AM   #4214
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put a deposit for a 35-02 at an AD 6 months ago.. still waiting
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Old 10 January 2018, 12:05 PM   #4215
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Is there a price list showing the increase?
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Old 3 February 2018, 06:23 AM   #4216
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60-01? 60-02?

I heard new St. Barth watch coming, anyone with any details? images?
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Old 17 February 2018, 08:35 AM   #4217
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It has come to my attention that RM is now encouraging the sale of their watches over MSRP. This really bothers me.

Basically, the brand now allows ADs and Boutiques to sell the watches to the highest bidder. The difference in dollar amount over MSRP is being added to invoices as a service charge.

I am beyond frustrated for a variety of reasons.

1) I am a small fish and I rely on my relationships to get access to the pieces I want. With this practice, the person with the most money will always take precedence over myself.

2) This could be horrible for the brand. It's certainly a great way to get rid of the grey market, but it is a slippery slope in terms of keeping customers.

I am very turned off and not sure what my future here will hold.
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Old 17 February 2018, 08:39 AM   #4218
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It has come to my attention that RM is now encouraging the sale of their watches over MSRP. This really bothers me.

Basically, the brand now allows ADs and Boutiques to sell the watches to the highest bidder. The difference in dollar amount over MSRP is being added to invoices as a service charge.

I am beyond frustrated for a variety of reasons.

1) I am a small fish and I rely on my relationships to get access to the pieces I want. With this practice, the person with the most money will always take precedence over myself.

2) This could be horrible for the brand. It's certainly a great way to get rid of the grey market, but it is a slippery slope in terms of keeping customers.

I am very turned off and not sure what my future here will hold.


What do you expect, the staff in the boutiques act like w*nkers mincing around the prime location store with no gear to sell.


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Old 17 February 2018, 09:22 AM   #4219
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What do you expect, the staff in the boutiques act like w*nkers mincing around the prime location store with no gear to sell.


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Each visit to a RM boutique or any other brand's boutique is going to be based on that client's perception and experience.

My comment/concern/news is about selling pieces over MSRP, not those experiences.
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Old 18 February 2018, 09:49 AM   #4220
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Just walk away John. If that is their policy they don’t deserve your hard earned dollars.
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Old 18 February 2018, 10:02 AM   #4221
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I agree. Walk away from the brand. I won't be buying another RM if this is the case.
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Old 18 February 2018, 10:41 AM   #4222
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It has come to my attention that RM is now encouraging the sale of their watches over MSRP. This really bothers me.

Basically, the brand now allows ADs and Boutiques to sell the watches to the highest bidder. The difference in dollar amount over MSRP is being added to invoices as a service charge.
Have not bothered with TRF in 6 months as it's not worth it, but this BS is too good to not post.

John you are flat out not telling the truth. Go ahead and lay out the facts:

- Which SPECIFIC RM boutique (or AD) by name is 'encouraging' and all details behind it.

AD's do not get watches any more, so they are out of the picture. If it's your Aspen buddies that are telling you this, they will lose their RM Boutique--period. If you're listening to your gray dealers again, you should have learned your lesson long ago. You said "RM is encouraging" so put your money where your mouth is...tell us.

RM does not sell watches OVER retail at Boutiques. I have spoken with my RM VP yesterday and they DO NOT sell RM's at Boutiques over sticker period (of which all in US are owned by Westime--minus your friends in Apsen). He said he would like to know where you are hearing this and all details (I'd be careful before you throw out defamation terms about RM 'encouraging' this--that is a STRONG statement). So since you came on a public forum stating 'facts'--let's hear it.

You were also the one that said RM would crash and burn a year ago and here they are with the hottest brand in the market bar none. You are angry you cannot get an RM's like you use to...those days are over bud (and you hitched your wagon to the wrong Boutique). As you stated:
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I am starting to get a little frustrated.

The brand is hotter than ever, every piece is going well over retail and it is becoming increasingly difficult to source watches.

i'm itching for something new/now, and it's a total crap shoot!!!!!!!!
I've received a new RM last month, have one coming next month (my blue 011-03) and just paid full deposit with same Boutique for delivery in August on another RM--ALL MSRP.

So before you spout off "It has come to my attention that RM is now encouraging the sale of their watches over MSRP". I'd suggest lay out the exact facts/discussions/etc with an RM Boutique.

RM is NOT 'encouraging' selling any new piece at over MSRP.

Looking forward to your details (not just some statement you throw out there).
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Old 18 February 2018, 11:36 AM   #4223
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It's great to have you back. For whatever time you feel appropriate.
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Old 18 February 2018, 11:56 AM   #4224
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Old 18 February 2018, 01:33 PM   #4225
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Have not bothered with TRF in 6 months as it's not worth it, but this BS is too good to not post.

John you are flat out not telling the truth. Go ahead and lay out the facts:

- Which SPECIFIC RM boutique (or AD) by name is 'encouraging' and all details behind it.

AD's do not get watches any more, so they are out of the picture. If it's your Aspen buddies that are telling you this, they will lose their RM Boutique--period. If you're listening to your gray dealers again, you should have learned your lesson long ago. You said "RM is encouraging" so put your money where your mouth is...tell us.

RM does not sell watches OVER retail at Boutiques. I have spoken with my RM VP yesterday and they DO NOT sell RM's at Boutiques over sticker period (of which all in US are owned by Westime--minus your friends in Apsen). He said he would like to know where you are hearing this and all details (I'd be careful before you throw out defamation terms about RM 'encouraging' this--that is a STRONG statement). So since you came on a public forum stating 'facts'--let's hear it.

You were also the one that said RM would crash and burn a year ago and here they are with the hottest brand in the market bar none. You are angry you cannot get an RM's like you use to...those days are over bud (and you hitched your wagon to the wrong Boutique). As you stated:


I've received a new RM last month, have one coming next month (my blue 011-03) and just paid full deposit with same Boutique for delivery in August on another RM--ALL MSRP.

So before you spout off "It has come to my attention that RM is now encouraging the sale of their watches over MSRP". I'd suggest lay out the exact facts/discussions/etc with an RM Boutique.

RM is NOT 'encouraging' selling any new piece at over MSRP.

Looking forward to your details (not just some statement you throw out there).
Paul,

You sound upset or unrational. Maybe both.

I have multiple sources that have indicated the sale of pieces over MSRP, it’s not the one boutique you’d like me to name.

I’m happy you have your new pieces.

I’m glad you’ve realized the pieces won’t be coming at a discount anymore, you argued about that for almost a year. I was always happy to pay what they cost.

Your behavior talking to whomever you know is overly aggressive and it cost you relationships and watches. I’d hope you now realize that- it’s a fact and no different than your post.

Either way I appreciate your hard stance, as I told you then: there will no longer be a discount on these pieces. (You rudely argued for it).

I will tell you now, I’m glad you secured msrp, because that will no longer be the case.

I’m glad you took 6 months off trolling the board and it’s ironic how immediately present you are.

I’ll refrain from anymore specifics other than you’ve upset people arguing/harassing to buy RM and also manipulating others to buy and flip for your benefit.

JPS

To add- all RM boutiques are now the same. Surprised you didn’t know. Kind of crazy the VP wouldnt have informed you.
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Old 18 February 2018, 01:38 PM   #4226
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I’ve heard and seen the same as John, independently. I look forward to your incoming blue Paul. Please post next month.

Also, as always a legal primer - what John said isn’t defamation.
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Old 18 February 2018, 11:14 PM   #4227
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I have multiple sources that have indicated the sale of pieces over MSRP, it’s not the one boutique you’d like me to name.
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You've heard from 'multiple sources'.

I've never heard or experienced this at any US Boutique and I know it's not RM policy.

The new norm clearly frustrates you as people are not bending over for your wishes. Just order what you like, pay full price in advance (which is now required by Boutiques) and wait (6-12 months) everyone is in same boat. It's that simple. Getting pieces are not hard, it's the wait that is frustrating, I get it. If you want something now (just like with any brand), you will most likely pay dearly on the secondary.

Maybe since you are so frustrated you should just sell your RM watches and go back to Patek--they are easy to buy these days. Oh wait, I hear AD's are selling over MSRP there as well

Maybe I'll log in again and check back in 6 months...what a waste of time this was. Everyone have a great Spring/Summer, I see you're in good hands with experts here LOL.
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Old 19 February 2018, 03:28 AM   #4228
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Have not bothered with TRF in 6 months as it's not worth it, but this BS is too good to not post.

John you are flat out not telling the truth. Go ahead and lay out the facts:

- Which SPECIFIC RM boutique (or AD) by name is 'encouraging' and all details behind it.

AD's do not get watches any more, so they are out of the picture. If it's your Aspen buddies that are telling you this, they will lose their RM Boutique--period. If you're listening to your gray dealers again, you should have learned your lesson long ago. You said "RM is encouraging" so put your money where your mouth is...tell us.

RM does not sell watches OVER retail at Boutiques. I have spoken with my RM VP yesterday and they DO NOT sell RM's at Boutiques over sticker period (of which all in US are owned by Westime--minus your friends in Apsen). He said he would like to know where you are hearing this and all details (I'd be careful before you throw out defamation terms about RM 'encouraging' this--that is a STRONG statement). So since you came on a public forum stating 'facts'--let's hear it.

You were also the one that said RM would crash and burn a year ago and here they are with the hottest brand in the market bar none. You are angry you cannot get an RM's like you use to...those days are over bud (and you hitched your wagon to the wrong Boutique). As you stated:


I've received a new RM last month, have one coming next month (my blue 011-03) and just paid full deposit with same Boutique for delivery in August on another RM--ALL MSRP.

So before you spout off "It has come to my attention that RM is now encouraging the sale of their watches over MSRP". I'd suggest lay out the exact facts/discussions/etc with an RM Boutique.

RM is NOT 'encouraging' selling any new piece at over MSRP.

Looking forward to your details (not just some statement you throw out there).
Paul.. is John talking about grey market dealers charging premiums? That’s common. But here in Asia, RM boutique above MSRP is unheard of.

John, I suggest you buy direct from official RM boutiques. Great services they provide.


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Old 19 February 2018, 07:13 AM   #4229
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John is talking about US ADs. This is the policy now. Paul, what AD/boutique do you use? Because the ones you used in the past were introduced to you by John and I and I believe neither has anything to do with you.

There have also I believe only been 2 11-03s blues sold in the US so far. I do not believe that a relatively small fish who sold all his past Milles is going to be among the first five in the US to obtain one. Please post the receipt or a picture when it comes next month the way you used to make separate incomings for all your flips with bold font and lots of exclamation points.

Otherwise, stop spreading lies about a brand you feel some weird ownership or stake in when we both know because of how small a world it is that you haven’t been able to get pieces you want and you have caused stress for mutual friends because of your complaints.
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Someone is now added to my ignore list...no make that two people. Ahh....
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