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East Bay Rider · 19 March 2009, 09:16 AM

I can't sleep without my wife's elbow in my back. I absolutely hate sleeping alone. I have a hard time falling asleep if I can't hear her sleeping.

Lisa · 19 March 2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by away36

This sounds like a fun book! Would it be of any use to someone in their second pregnancy? One of my daughters-in-law is expecting again and between the mood swings, not sleeping well and work being a nightmare, she could sure use a good laugh.

I highly recommend it, Nancy. It would be a perfect gift!

Lisa · 19 March 2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Carolina

Y'know, I usually try to keep an open mind. But Babywise? That book is just evil.

(Psst... I agree!)

East Bay Rider · 19 March 2009, 09:34 AM

FWIW my son never slept with us. When he was little I would read to him in his bed and often fall asleep. If he had trouble at night he would yell "DADDY! Need you." (still does) and I would come running. If he was sick or nightmarish or whatever he could come into bed with us but for regular sleeping I would just tell him a story, lie with him for a few minutes and just let him go to sleep. He was fine. Up until recently I still tucked him in every night. If

Lisa · 19 March 2009, 09:38 AM

Bill, that makes perfect sense. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. June only slept with me for a short while, then she wanted her own bed and only rarely climbs in with me. This was the same baby that would toddle off to bed and put herself down for a nap when she was barely big enough to walk... Kids do what they need to do, and it's a smart parent who can recognize this. Of course this means you, Super Dad!

away36 · 19 March 2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

FWIW my son never slept with us. When he was little I would read to him in his bed and often fall asleep. If he had trouble at night he would yell "DADDY! Need you." (still does) and I would come running. If he was sick or nightmarish or whatever he could come into bed with us but for regular sleeping I would just tell him a story, lie with him for a few minutes and just let him go to sleep. He was fine. Up until recently I still tucked him in every night. If

Bill, you remind me so much of my sons. They too are fantastic dads. Your son is a very lucky boy.

Lion · 19 March 2009, 09:59 AM

Another thing we did with are son was when he went to bed we didn't lower the volume of the TV or are conversation. He learned to sleep through interruptions!!!

East Bay Rider · 19 March 2009, 10:01 AM

True story that I think is funny though you all may not.
When my wife was pregnant we attended a childbirth class. There were about 6 or 7 other couples and a couple of nurses telling us what to expect etc. They showed us how to hold a baby and made us change diapers on dolls.
At about noon the nurse told us we would watch a video and then break for lunch. She proceeded to show us the child birth video of a woman who looked like a horse and had really bad teeth She was sweating and moaning and then we saw the close up shots of her in labor. I started giggling and my wife was giving me the "WTF" look. All I could think was:
"Who's ready for lunch?"

away36 · 19 March 2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Another thing we did with are son was when he went to bed we didn't lower the volume of the TV or are conversation. He learned to sleep through interruptions!!!

Ohhh, my one daughter-in-law nearly drove my son crazy with "whispering", turning down the TV so low no one could hear it, not wanting people over after the baby's bedtime because they might talk too loud, turning the ringer volume on the phone so low the calls were frequently missed. Ack!!! Not her fault....she is her mother's daughter. She's MUCH better now though.

Lion · 19 March 2009, 10:04 AM

Bill, you are bad, very bad!!!!!

away36 · 19 March 2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

True story that I think is funny though you all may not.
When my wife was pregnant we attended a childbirth class. There were about 6 or 7 other couples and a couple of nurses telling us what to expect etc. They showed us how to hold a baby and made us change diapers on dolls.
At about noon the nurse told us we would watch a video and then break for lunch. She proceeded to show us the child birth video of a woman who looked like a horse and had really bad teeth She was sweating and moaning and then we saw the close up shots of her in labor. I started giggling and my wife was giving me the "WTF" look. All I could think was:
"Who's ready for lunch?"

Yep.......................EXACTLY like my sons!!!!

Lion · 19 March 2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by away36

Ohhh, my one daughter-in-law nearly drove my son crazy with "whispering", turning down the TV so low no one could hear it, not wanting people over after the baby's bedtime because they might talk too loud, turning the ringer volume on the phone so low the calls were frequently missed. Ack!!! Not her fault....she is her mother's daughter. She's MUCH better now though.

Nancy, that's good that she is better. This kind of behavior will make everyone go crazy, including the child. As has already been said, children are adaptable and will take things in stride. It's parents that make them neurotic!!!

Lisa · 19 March 2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Another thing we did with are son was when he went to bed we didn't lower the volume of the TV or are conversation. He learned to sleep through interruptions!!!

That's smart, Leo. And good "conditioning" for when the second and third kid comes along - because then it will never be quiet for baby's naptime!

Lisa · 19 March 2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Bill, you are bad, very bad!!!!!

But that's pretty darn funny! I'm afraid I might have started giggling, too....

Lion · 19 March 2009, 10:28 AM

Lisa, I agree, as a parent you learn with each new child that comes along. And you become more laid back and tolerant as time moves on. I grew up as the middle son in the family. My parents were strict with my older brother and me. And when my younger brother came a long, he got away with murder!!!
You know children do not come with instructions or manuals!!!

East Bay Rider · 19 March 2009, 10:38 AM

Good parenting

... and a local girl too. We're all so proud.

Lion · 19 March 2009, 10:41 AM

Bill, Thanx for sharing that story with us. And we wonder why children act up!!!!!

Lisa · 19 March 2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

Good parenting

... and a local girl too. We're all so proud.

Nice. Hope she sees some jail time, and her supportive family can homeschool the kid.

DSJ · 19 March 2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Interesting read, Nancy. You know, it's more common that one might first think. Off the top of my head, and among couples where I even am aware of their sleeping arrangements, I only know of ONE couple who have kids who sleep in the same bed.

Make that TWO couples!

It's times like this when I'm glad my wife isn't on TRF - she might get some crazy ideas here in the coffeeshop!

Lisa · 19 March 2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DSJ

Make that TWO couples!

It's times like this when I'm glad my wife isn't on TRF - she might get some crazy ideas here in the coffeeshop!

Okay, Dave. Maybe you can restore my faith!

Lion · 19 March 2009, 11:21 PM

Morning everyone, whose turn is it to make coffee???

Carolina · 19 March 2009, 11:36 PM

Your turn, Leo!

Lisa, did you end up making strawberry shortcake?

Lisa · 19 March 2009, 11:39 PM

You know, we didn't! Instead we went to some plant nurseries to look at trees with red foliage to replace an ornamental red plum the ice storm killed. While at Target to get a watering can, we picked up a cheap inflatable pool, so the girls played with the garden hose and in the pool all afternoon. It was almost warm enough - they got a little shivery but had fun anyway.

Lion · 19 March 2009, 11:40 PM

What kind should I make and who has the Kahlua!!!

Carolina · 19 March 2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

You know, we didn't! Instead we went to some plant nurseries to look at trees with red foliage to replace an ornamental red plum the ice storm killed. While at Target to get a watering can, we picked up a cheap inflatable pool, so the girls played with the garden hose and in the pool all afternoon. It was almost warm enough - they got a little shivery but had fun anyway.

I'm betting that they had a blast! Kind of cold. though - but kids don't seem to care. My two keep insisting it's time to go in the pool, despite the water being around 45 degrees!

Carolina · 19 March 2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lion

What kind should I make and who has the Kahlua!!!

Extra Kahlua and milk, please!

Lion · 19 March 2009, 11:46 PM

How about Columbian beans and did you know that Kahlua comes in flavors now!!!

Jimbits76 · 19 March 2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Now the idea of a doctor coming at me with a knife down there is horrific but would do it for my partner if she asked me. But now after menopause the issue is resolved. As for separate beds I would have to agree with using two beds when necessary. I move around way too much( we even have a king size bed) and my wife snores!!!

Meh...child's play.

Let a veteran of genital mutilation tell you that a vasectomy is like a little graze when compared to reconstruction and corrective surgery!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I say bring on the V when the time comes...in fact I wouldn't be surprised if I get a frequent flyer discount!

J

Jimbits76 · 19 March 2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DSJ

Make that TWO couples!

It's times like this when I'm glad my wife isn't on TRF - she might get some crazy ideas here in the coffeeshop!

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Okay, Dave. Maybe you can restore my faith!

I get the spare room for three reasons...

1. William now has my place.

2. I snore...loudly...When I stayed with my sisted in teh Canarian mountains...her husband got up in the night to shoot the Mountain Lion which was roaring outside.

3. Whenever I am in bed with claire I can't help but give her the odd squeeze...if that isn't bad enough, I also make a loud HONK noise when I do it!!!!!!!!

I guess the spare room keeps our marriage going...

J

bodybump · 20 March 2009, 12:38 AM

To the beautiful ladies of TRF..Goodmorning!!! I was still sleeping when i heard a knock on the door...guess what? UPS..Opened and signed the package...thinking what i purchased and i cant seem to remember buying one...i opened the package and guess what?? The shoes that my wife and i debating about... SHE BOUGHT IT!!!

Well i guess if you cant beat em..Join them..."sigh" Well it actually looks beautiful in real life than on the Photos..what do you think ladies?? David i think this will fit you too..hahahaha by the way before you guys say anything thats not my FEET!!! hahahahahaah

19 March 2009, 09:16 AM	#4351
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,102	I can't sleep without my wife's elbow in my back. I absolutely hate sleeping alone. I have a hard time falling asleep if I can't hear her sleeping. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

19 March 2009, 09:34 AM	#4354
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,102	FWIW my son never slept with us. When he was little I would read to him in his bed and often fall asleep. If he had trouble at night he would yell "DADDY! Need you." (still does) and I would come running. If he was sick or nightmarish or whatever he could come into bed with us but for regular sleeping I would just tell him a story, lie with him for a few minutes and just let him go to sleep. He was fine. Up until recently I still tucked him in every night. If __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

19 March 2009, 09:59 AM	#4357
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Another thing we did with are son was when he went to bed we didn't lower the volume of the TV or are conversation. He learned to sleep through interruptions!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

19 March 2009, 10:01 AM	#4358
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,102	True story that I think is funny though you all may not. When my wife was pregnant we attended a childbirth class. There were about 6 or 7 other couples and a couple of nurses telling us what to expect etc. They showed us how to hold a baby and made us change diapers on dolls. At about noon the nurse told us we would watch a video and then break for lunch. She proceeded to show us the child birth video of a woman who looked like a horse and had really bad teeth She was sweating and moaning and then we saw the close up shots of her in labor. I started giggling and my wife was giving me the "WTF" look. All I could think was: "Who's ready for lunch?" __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

19 March 2009, 10:04 AM	#4360
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Bill, you are bad, very bad!!!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

19 March 2009, 09:38 AM	#4355
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	Bill, that makes perfect sense. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. June only slept with me for a short while, then she wanted her own bed and only rarely climbs in with me. This was the same baby that would toddle off to bed and put herself down for a nap when she was barely big enough to walk... Kids do what they need to do, and it's a smart parent who can recognize this. Of course this means you, Super Dad!

19 March 2009, 10:28 AM	#4365
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Lisa, I agree, as a parent you learn with each new child that comes along. And you become more laid back and tolerant as time moves on. I grew up as the middle son in the family. My parents were strict with my older brother and me. And when my younger brother came a long, he got away with murder!!! You know children do not come with instructions or manuals!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

19 March 2009, 10:38 AM	#4366
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,102	Good parenting ... and a local girl too. We're all so proud. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

19 March 2009, 10:41 AM	#4367
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Bill, Thanx for sharing that story with us. And we wonder why children act up!!!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

19 March 2009, 11:21 PM	#4371
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Morning everyone, whose turn is it to make coffee??? __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

19 March 2009, 11:36 PM	#4372
Carolina "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina Watch: it, Bubba! Posts: 6,271	Your turn, Leo! Lisa, did you end up making strawberry shortcake? __________________ . .Member #5380 .

19 March 2009, 11:39 PM	#4373
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	You know, we didn't! Instead we went to some plant nurseries to look at trees with red foliage to replace an ornamental red plum the ice storm killed. While at Target to get a watering can, we picked up a cheap inflatable pool, so the girls played with the garden hose and in the pool all afternoon. It was almost warm enough - they got a little shivery but had fun anyway.

19 March 2009, 11:40 PM	#4374
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	What kind should I make and who has the Kahlua!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

19 March 2009, 11:46 PM	#4377
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	How about Columbian beans and did you know that Kahlua comes in flavors now!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

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