Official vacheron overseas thread!!

[spellmanski]

Originally Posted by Batchelor22

Just got the call after 18 mos from the Vancouver boutique.

What colour dial did you get?

[Batchelor22]

The blue dial.

[Batchelor22]

On the wrist.

[HL65]

Nothing like VC OS Blue! Best blue dial in the business IMHO.




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[HL65]

Nothing but blue




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[mailman]

Originally Posted by HL65

Nothing but blue




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Great picture brother

[DoricSpiker]

Originally Posted by HL65

Nothing but blue




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That works!
Beautiful.


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[Porsche993TT]

love this watch, whats the best model to get with blue dial in the 25-30k range on used market, thanks

[HL65]

Originally Posted by mailman

Great picture brother

Thanks brother!

Originally Posted by DoricSpiker

That works!
Beautiful.


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Thank you!

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Porsche993TT

love this watch, whats the best model to get with blue dial in the 25-30k range on used market, thanks

Probably the 4520V.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Probably the 4520V.

I would say the same either 4520V or 4500V in SS.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by HL65

All I can say is I prefer the 4500 to the 4520 and prefer the bracelet as more sporty w less taper. To each his own though. The tapered bracelet a bit more dressy IMHO. I am sure I’d feel the same with 7900 vs 7920. Not worth it for me.

Looking at the photos of both, I too prefer the 4500 to the 4520. The new release may have too much taper for the head size and may look off balance. I have never seen the 4520 but the Urban Jurgensen One I had had a lot of taper at the clasp and it just did not look right to me.

[Sergio_UKR]

Looking to pull the trigger on 7920v Dualtime, which impressed me a lot in person.

Just slightly concerned with the size. I have a thin and flat 6’5” inch and do wear Sub Date and Pepsi on jubilee as my main two watches. But Speedmaster pro was a bit too big for me just because of the sheer dial size. Overseas looks borderline acceptable IMO.

How does your overseas wear compared to Rolex? I see quite a few folks with the smaller wrists in this thread )




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[HL65]

Originally Posted by Sergio_UKR

Looking to pull the trigger on 7920v Dualtime, which impressed me a lot in person.

Just slightly concerned with the size. I have a thin and flat 6’5” inch and do wear Sub Date and Pepsi on jubilee as my main two watches. But Speedmaster pro was a bit too big for me just because of the sheer dial size. Overseas looks borderline acceptable IMO.

How does your overseas wear compared to Rolex? I see quite a few folks with the smaller wrists in this thread )




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My wrist is 7.5 inches and it fits me perfectly with plenty of room on both sides of my wrist. At 6.5 inches it is on the cusp of fitting IMHO. Perhaps someone with a similar sized wrist can chime in. I will say it is on a whole different level than Rolex and quality is amazing. The blue dial is second to none in the business and it is one of my personal favorite watches in the my collection. So versatile with the strap change system. So if you can pull it off I highly recommend one!

[DoricSpiker]

Originally Posted by Sergio_UKR

Looking to pull the trigger on 7920v Dualtime, which impressed me a lot in person.

Just slightly concerned with the size. I have a thin and flat 6’5” inch and do wear Sub Date and Pepsi on jubilee as my main two watches. But Speedmaster pro was a bit too big for me just because of the sheer dial size. Overseas looks borderline acceptable IMO.

How does your overseas wear compared to Rolex? I see quite a few folks with the smaller wrists in this thread )




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I have the rose gold green dial version. My wrists are 6.75, closer to 7 on a hot day and flat like you. I love the watch, don’t feel it being too big. I did actually feel the chrono was a little chunky for me.

It looks fine in your photo. Go for it would be my advice, it’s one of the best sports watches in the business.


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[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Sergio_UKR

Looking to pull the trigger on 7920v Dualtime, which impressed me a lot in person.

Just slightly concerned with the size. I have a thin and flat 6’5” inch and do wear Sub Date and Pepsi on jubilee as my main two watches. But Speedmaster pro was a bit too big for me just because of the sheer dial size. Overseas looks borderline acceptable IMO.

How does your overseas wear compared to Rolex? I see quite a few folks with the smaller wrists in this thread )




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An Overseas will wear bigger than a Sub or a Pepsi. The design just seems to spread more visually. Both the Sub and Pepsi have ceramic bezels which draw attention to the smaller dial making the watch appear smaller. I wear the 4500v on my 6.5-inch wrist with no issues.

[Batchelor22]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

Looking at the photos of both, I too prefer the 4500 to the 4520. The new release may have too much taper for the head size and may look off balance. I have never seen the 4520 but the Urban Jurgensen One I had had a lot of taper at the clasp and it just did not look right to me.

Having owned both, the 4520V wears much more comfortably, no one can really see the taper difference while wearing, so really dependent on the wearer IMO.

[dents]

Hi everyone,

I'm a new member here and very pleased to join the community—it's great to see so many passionate collectors and fellow enthusiasts.

I’d like to get some advice on a decision I’ve been struggling with. I currently own a Vacheron Constantin Overseas in gold with a silver dial, which I purchased directly from the boutique. I had also been on the waiting list for the 4500V blue dial in steel, but as many of you know, the 4500V has now been replaced by the 4520V.

I've recently been offered the 4520V blue dial through the boutique—available for immediate purchase or with a deposit to secure one later this year. I’ve tried both the 4500V and 4520V on my wrist and found both to be very wearable and comfortable.

Now here’s the dilemma: I’ve also been offered a brand new 4500V blue dial on the grey market for pounds 20K. It’s still in stickers, but without warranty as it was never registered. . So the decision comes down to:

Option 1: Buy new from the boutique at pounds 24100K – full warranty, peace of mind, and a relationship with the brand.

Option 2: Buy grey market at pounds 20K – save 8K, but no warranty or VC after-sales support.

The grey market piece is in excellent condition and appears untouched, but I’m torn between saving money and having the security that comes with a boutique purchase.

Would really appreciate any thoughts, advice, or experiences from others who’ve faced similar decisions.

Thanks in advance!

[joustinh]

Originally Posted by Batchelor22

Having owned both, the 4520V wears much more comfortably, no one can really see the taper difference while wearing, so really dependent on the wearer IMO.

What aspects makes the 4520V more comfortable for you?

[Batchelor22]

The narrower clasp makes for a greater ease of movement on both the bracelet and rubber strap, I believe the bracelet is a bit thinner but I could be wrong about that. The thickness of the case is negligible but perhaps also creates the sensation of lighter weight and added comfort. These are aesthetic observations, each wearer may have a different experience.

[Emery]

Originally Posted by dents

Hi everyone,

I'm a new member here and very pleased to join the community—it's great to see so many passionate collectors and fellow enthusiasts.

I’d like to get some advice on a decision I’ve been struggling with. I currently own a Vacheron Constantin Overseas in gold with a silver dial, which I purchased directly from the boutique. I had also been on the waiting list for the 4500V blue dial in steel, but as many of you know, the 4500V has now been replaced by the 4520V.

I've recently been offered the 4520V blue dial through the boutique—available for immediate purchase or with a deposit to secure one later this year. I’ve tried both the 4500V and 4520V on my wrist and found both to be very wearable and comfortable.

Now here’s the dilemma: I’ve also been offered a brand new 4500V blue dial on the grey market for pounds 20K. It’s still in stickers, but without warranty as it was never registered. . So the decision comes down to:

Option 1: Buy new from the boutique at pounds 24100K – full warranty, peace of mind, and a relationship with the brand.

Option 2: Buy grey market at pounds 20K – save 8K, but no warranty or VC after-sales support.

The grey market piece is in excellent condition and appears untouched, but I’m torn between saving money and having the security that comes with a boutique purchase.

Would really appreciate any thoughts, advice, or experiences from others who’ve faced similar decisions.

Thanks in advance!

I’d go with option 1 - buy new.

Peace of mind and no doubts are both important factors for me.

[Sergio_UKR]

Originally Posted by dents

Hi everyone,

I'm a new member here and very pleased to join the community—it's great to see so many passionate collectors and fellow enthusiasts.

I’d like to get some advice on a decision I’ve been struggling with. I currently own a Vacheron Constantin Overseas in gold with a silver dial, which I purchased directly from the boutique. I had also been on the waiting list for the 4500V blue dial in steel, but as many of you know, the 4500V has now been replaced by the 4520V.

I've recently been offered the 4520V blue dial through the boutique—available for immediate purchase or with a deposit to secure one later this year. I’ve tried both the 4500V and 4520V on my wrist and found both to be very wearable and comfortable.

Now here’s the dilemma: I’ve also been offered a brand new 4500V blue dial on the grey market for pounds 20K. It’s still in stickers, but without warranty as it was never registered. . So the decision comes down to:

Option 1: Buy new from the boutique at pounds 24100K – full warranty, peace of mind, and a relationship with the brand.

Option 2: Buy grey market at pounds 20K – save 8K, but no warranty or VC after-sales support.

The grey market piece is in excellent condition and appears untouched, but I’m torn between saving money and having the security that comes with a boutique purchase.

Would really appreciate any thoughts, advice, or experiences from others who’ve faced similar decisions.

Thanks in advance!

Sorry my math failed me. The difference is 4.1k pounds or 8k?

If it is 8k or roughly 30% from the MSRP for a stickered watch from 2023, I would go gray.
If it is 4.1k or about 17-18% of the price it is a different story. It all depends on how you value new, slightly update design and warranty. As well as how special that watch will be for you. For a watch that is important and special I would recommend boutique experience. For one of the many - gray market will do just fine.

[dents]

Originally Posted by Sergio_UKR

Sorry my math failed me. The difference is 4.1k pounds or 8k?

If it is 8k or roughly 30% from the MSRP for a stickered watch from 2023, I would go gray.
If it is 4.1k or about 17-18% of the price it is a different story. It all depends on how you value new, slightly update design and warranty. As well as how special that watch will be for you. For a watch that is important and special I would recommend boutique experience. For one of the many - gray market will do just fine.

Hi, my apologies you are right its 4 k not 8k difference and you are right about 18 percent difference. You are also right that for 18 percent difference it makes more sense to get from boutique. The reason I wrote 8k is my friend tried to do a part exchange on a 4520 he was offered 8k less from retail on the watch with blue dial . Either ways it makes sense to buy from boutique . Glad to be a part of this community .

[Sergio_UKR]

Originally Posted by dents

Hi, my apologies you are right its 4 k not 8k difference and you are right about 18 percent difference. You are also right that for 18 percent difference it makes more sense to get from boutique. The reason I wrote 8k is my friend tried to do a part exchange on a 4520 he was offered 8k less from retail on the watch with blue dial . Either ways it makes sense to buy from boutique . Glad to be a part of this community .

Sorry, not too clear again. Was your friend trying to get 4520 or get rid of it in part exchange?

I think 8k below MSRP for a 4520v is a highway robbery either way. They are currently selling for about retail (25k) +-10% based on condition. So I can see gray dealers offering 5k under retail for a beat up watch, but still no 8k difference.


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[dents]

Originally Posted by Sergio_UKR

Sorry, not too clear again. Was your friend trying to get 4520 or get rid of it in part exchange?

I think 8k below MSRP for a 4520v is a highway robbery either way. They are currently selling for about retail (25k) +-10% based on condition. So I can see gray dealers offering 5k under retail for a beat up watch, but still no 8k difference.


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My apologies again if i wasnt clear.

My friend bought a vc blue 4520 from boutique and spotted another Patek he liked and approached Watchfinder for a part-exchange quote. He was quite surprised to be offered around £16k for the watch — a drop of about £8k despite it being nearly brand new and barely worn.

Understandably, he decided to hold onto the watch rather than take the hit. But it got me thinking... I’ve been considering buying from a boutique myself, but seeing that kind of immediate depreciation is a bit worrying, hence wondered if others are offered silly prices. I dont intend to sell it but it does make your heart sink if ever you have a change of heart and decide to part from it.

[Jwcinsd]

Originally Posted by dents

My apologies again if i wasnt clear.

My friend bought a vc blue 4520 from boutique and spotted another Patek he liked and approached Watchfinder for a part-exchange quote. He was quite surprised to be offered around £16k for the watch — a drop of about £8k despite it being nearly brand new and barely worn.

Understandably, he decided to hold onto the watch rather than take the hit. But it got me thinking... I’ve been considering buying from a boutique myself, but seeing that kind of immediate depreciation is a bit worrying, hence wondered if others are offered silly prices. I dont intend to sell it but it does make your heart sink if ever you have a change of heart and decide to part from it.

I’ve been thinking of a blue 4520V and I’ve been looking for over 12 months. I have yet to see one below retail. There are several on this forum for $28+K. $16,000 is a very low offer, but retail stores need to make a profit and cover their costs so I don’t blame them either.

[Uppersouth]

Originally Posted by dents

My apologies again if i wasnt clear.

My friend bought a vc blue 4520 from boutique and spotted another Patek he liked and approached Watchfinder for a part-exchange quote. He was quite surprised to be offered around £16k for the watch — a drop of about £8k despite it being nearly brand new and barely worn.

Understandably, he decided to hold onto the watch rather than take the hit. But it got me thinking... I’ve been considering buying from a boutique myself, but seeing that kind of immediate depreciation is a bit worrying, hence wondered if others are offered silly prices. I dont intend to sell it but it does make your heart sink if ever you have a change of heart and decide to part from it.

We have returned to the pre-Covid, pre-owned market for VC. I would wager, given the wholesale bid from Watchfinder, the ask vs selling price delta is significant.

[srvrf]

Originally Posted by Sergio_UKR

Looking to pull the trigger on 7920v Dualtime, which impressed me a lot in person.

Just slightly concerned with the size. I have a thin and flat 6’5” inch and do wear Sub Date and Pepsi on jubilee as my main two watches. But Speedmaster pro was a bit too big for me just because of the sheer dial size. Overseas looks borderline acceptable IMO.

How does your overseas wear compared to Rolex? I see quite a few folks with the smaller wrists in this thread )




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I think it looks really good on you. I have a 6.5" wrist and have the Overseas Retrograde which is also 41mm.

[Demonoid]

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[Jwcinsd]

Amazing! I normally never go for skeletonized watches as I find them difficult to read, especially with multiple complications, but this one looks a meter deep. I’d love to see a 1 minute video of that tourbillion spinning and the gears moving. I bet it's mesmerizing. Keep your eyes on the road!