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View Poll Results: Does your 32xx movement seem to be 100% ok? | |||
Yes, no issues | 1,059 | 69.67% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine | 62 | 4.08% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) | 399 | 26.25% | |
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5 June 2024, 09:26 PM | #4951 | |
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I installed the Timegrapher app on my iOS phone and can take measurements for the community. Please tell me how to do it correctly. The app indicates that it is too noisy (but it's actually quiet) and where is the best place to place the watch. I will share my results with the community. |
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5 June 2024, 11:39 PM | #4954 | |
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He is the owner of a service center in another country. Even before the purchase, he told me I should get the 31xx, but I specifically wanted a new watch from an authorized dealer. |
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6 June 2024, 01:26 AM | #4955 |
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Here is an example of why just say you are running at +1 dial up is inconclusive. These readings were taken in Jan24. You can see dial up is great +1.9, but 9up is way off, the amplitudes are out of spec in the verticals.
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6 June 2024, 01:47 AM | #4956 |
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After 26h DU amplitude is still around 270-264, rate is 0, +1s.
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6 June 2024, 02:36 AM | #4957 |
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6 June 2024, 02:51 AM | #4958 |
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32xx movement problem poll and data thread
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6 June 2024, 03:28 AM | #4959 |
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Friend bought brand new OP his amplitude is DU 258, after 24h 252
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6 June 2024, 03:43 AM | #4960 |
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Did you write this to me? I agree with you; I'll check the amplitude after 24 hours tomorrow.
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6 June 2024, 01:07 PM | #4961 |
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After 36h DU 255, CD 225. Rate the same 0, +1. Time for testing is done for now. Time to Explore :)
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6 June 2024, 07:23 PM | #4962 |
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I took the measurements after 36 hours (I couldn't do it after 24 hours). I used the headphone microphone. Honestly, I was encouraged by the results. However, I should note that the watch was in the DU position the entire time, and they have an accuracy of +2 seconds per day over the last 5 days.
Summerise After 36 Hours: DU 220 DD 212 12U 248 6U 264 3U 258 9U 260 |
6 June 2024, 09:03 PM | #4963 |
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Vertical positions gave higher amplitude or am I missing something? :)
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6 June 2024, 09:24 PM | #4964 |
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6 June 2024, 10:04 PM | #4965 | |
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The data is complete garbage and proves that apps (can) deliver completely wrong results, some users don't understand their data, and others are resistant to advice. |
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6 June 2024, 11:41 PM | #4966 | |
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https://www.amazon.com/OTOOLWORLD-Co...ps%2C74&sr=8-2 As I stated earlier, take your watch to an AD that has an in -house watchmaker. Let them run the 5 position test and get their readings. Hold on to those and check back with them in 6 mos to a year. Or get a cheap tester, ditch the app. If you are really worried about your watch. |
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7 June 2024, 12:19 AM | #4967 |
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I have a BLNR purchased 7/19 that the warranty is about to roll off. Actually looking quite good still.
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7 June 2024, 12:44 AM | #4968 | |
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7 June 2024, 08:04 AM | #4969 |
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That's why I haven't voted yet :)
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8 June 2024, 12:13 AM | #4970 |
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Was there any recorded case of 32xx with amplitude 300?
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8 June 2024, 12:50 AM | #4971 |
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An amplitude of 300 degrees is realistic during and post-service.
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8 June 2024, 01:01 AM | #4972 |
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And for a new watch?
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8 June 2024, 01:04 AM | #4973 |
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Someone else would have to answer that one; I only see watches with problems. Theoretically, a new watch should have amplitudes comparable to a freshly serviced watch.
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8 June 2024, 01:31 AM | #4974 |
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I have seen 5 of them brand new, with amplitude range from 260-280 lift angle 53. None was even close to 300. That is why I ask.
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8 June 2024, 01:36 AM | #4975 | |
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8 June 2024, 01:37 AM | #4976 |
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Good thing is that for example this one, after 60h have great a daily rate despite low amplitude
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8 June 2024, 02:23 AM | #4977 | |||
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The highest value I have ever seen was 293° (DU) and 289° (DD), which I measured (with a professional timegrapher) for my SD43 (3235); watch was running fast (X = +4.3 s/d). Quote:
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Good, your best post (so far); just kidding (sort of). Please, delete this app and use an inexpensive timegrapher! |
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8 June 2024, 02:35 AM | #4978 |
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No I will not, because this app is great. I have compare its data with a professional timegrapher numerous times and it was scary close. Only beat error was always shown as higher. But rate and amplitude were super close. So thanks, but no :)
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8 June 2024, 03:00 AM | #4979 |
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While I won't claim it's common to see 300, I will say that it is an amplitude I have seen once or twice during preliminary & final timing during a 32xx service. It's typically between 270 to 280.
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8 June 2024, 05:17 AM | #4980 | |
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With all respect, can you please show us only one 'complete' (5 positions) Witschi timegrapher measurement of a 32xx caliber, as a Witschi screenshot, with 300° amplitudes in dial up and/or dial down? In the meantime, I quote what Bas (SearChart) had posted (April 2023) in this thread: "We don't see 300 degrees because it's not designed to run at those amplitudes. The entire point of the chronergy escapement is more efficiency and less friction, very high amplitudes would be counterproductive since it's just a waste of energy. For a 0hr test DU DD amplitudes are optimal when between 260-280, and vertical position in the 230-40 range. Pretty much all 32×× that run like this will have good steady average rates both at 0hrs and 24hrs and will reach the minimum amplitude tolerance of 200 degrees easily. So I see no point in aiming for 300 degrees, there is no benefit to that. The only thing I want to see is that they keep running at ideal amplitudes for 8-10 years. Simple regulation isn't going to solve that problem." Source: post 3829 |
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