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hoppes-no9 · 30 August 2017, 01:26 AM

I don't see a problem whatsoever with this A.D. experience.

Muzz · 30 August 2017, 01:57 AM

Well, if you were after the older version it would have been a jackpot. Technically they are both new.

Discount, well in my experience LA ADs seldom discount.

I get what you are saying but all in all it wasn't that bad.

gwalker · 31 August 2017, 07:16 PM

I've heard worse AD stories. Truth is some ADs won't discount SS models especially without a relationship. Remember most of us on here know more than the avg sales person.

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MCO1 · 31 August 2017, 11:03 PM

I bet at best 1 out of 50 visitors at an AD would know the the change to the Explorer or even know what the Basel Fair is that we all look forward to every year which gives us a heads up on such things. I don't expect the sales person to know much "ever" then I am pleasantly surprised when they do and a great conversation ensues. They will sell the "first gen" to someone who doesn't know any different and likes the shiny 3,6,9 better. The hands won't make any difference because nobody but us would notice such trivial details, heck I don't even notice the hands when using mine.:)

ras47 · 31 August 2017, 11:15 PM

These ADs are hit or miss. Omega is the same way. My nearest OB is incredible. The reps are all WIS types and most have collections that span many brands, not just Omega. Some of the non-OB authorized dealers, however, are nothing like this. A few are great and have a rep or two that are passionate about the brand. Others have no clue and simply want to sell you ANYthing. I imagine it's the same with Rolex.

melrob1 · 31 August 2017, 11:20 PM

Waste of your first post. Not that bad. Put some positivity in the air. Just saying.

mister robert · 2 September 2017, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by melrob1

Waste of your first post. Not that bad. Put some positivity in the air. Just saying.

this.

watchwatcher · 31 August 2017, 11:45 PM

Eh...to be honest, I think you may be putting too much thought into it.

Don't automatically assume that because of TRF, you know more than the sales clerk. While there is a new model of Explorer, Rolex no doubt still has some of the old ones hanging around and they've got to move them...so the older model may very well have been delivered at the same time as the newer one.

As a matter of fact, if it had stickers and the whole nine yards, it would be considered brand new.

As far as discounts, it doesn't hurt to ask, but don't be shocked if you don't get one. If they can move that piece without a discount (and they can), they would be stupid to give it to you for less.

My advice: find an AD that you're comfortable with, develop a relationship with them, and also explore some of our wonderful trusted sellers on TRF. When you're shopping for your next watch you can give everybody a shot and walk away with the best deal for you.

chris242 · 1 September 2017, 09:03 AM

which AD did you go to? i went into the new Santa Monica location last night. they were pretty friendly

jon_jon · 1 September 2017, 11:19 AM

On reading OPs story, I don't necessarily hear anything negative. Many Rolex ADs don't budge on price and this is especially true in the major cities.

The salesperson doesn't seem like he/she was rude to OP and wasn't arguing with OP nor did he/she refuse to let OP try on the watch.

Just because an AD salesperson didn't treat you like a king and didn't offer a 40% discount, doesn't mean it wasn't a good AD experience. It really depends on having a realistic expectation when you walk into an AD.

WhiskeyKoffee · 1 September 2017, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Granimal

Long time lurker, first time poster! Thanks for all the informative stuff you guys post here. It has really helped me to learn about the Rolex obsession!

So I visited my nearest Rolex AD to check out the watch I've been researching for a while now (Rolex Explorer). I noticed they had an older version with the solid white gold 3-6-9 numerals as well as the newer lume-filled one on display. I asked the friendly salesperson how long they've had the older version of the Explorer, and was told Rolex likes to mix and match little details like that and they're both brand new... alrighty then.

Also, a quick discussion on price turned into a speech about how Rolex watches deserve full retail and how I should strongly consider the store's watch protection coverage.

Ugh, not the heavy handed selling tactics I wanted to hear. Oh well, I got to try on the Explorer which felt great. Time for me to contact David SW I think!

Anyway, thanks for the wealth of info on these forums!

I concur with your post in every way and I don't understand the pushback you've received in this thread.

drakulie · 1 September 2017, 01:24 PM

Hilarious how people want an expensive watch to show off or feel good about themselves but want to pay the price of a swatch knock off.

WhiskeyKoffee · 1 September 2017, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by drakulie

Hilarious how people want an expensive watch to show off or feel good about themselves but want to pay the price of a swatch knock off.

No, that is not at all the issue OP raised.

drakulie · 2 September 2017, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKoffee

No, that is not at all the issue OP raised.

Yes it is the issue raised. The op expects to walk into a store that carries Rolex, put a quarter in the slot machine and walk out with a Rolex. If you want a Less expensive watch, buy a swatch. If you want a Rolex, expect to pay Rolex price,,,,, not cheapen the brand by haggling for swap shop prices.

WhiskeyKoffee · 2 September 2017, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakulie

Yes it is the issue raised. The op expects to walk into a store that carries Rolex, put a quarter in the slot machine and walk out with a Rolex. If you want a Less expensive watch, buy a swatch. If you want a Rolex, expect to pay Rolex price,,,,, not cheapen the brand by haggling for swap shop prices.

You couldn't be more off base and without merit. Let me help you out ...

OP said ...

" I noticed they had an older version with the solid white gold 3-6-9 numerals as well as the newer lume-filled one on display. I asked the friendly salesperson how long they've had the older version of the Explorer, and was told Rolex likes to mix and match little details like that and they're both brand new... alrighty then."

"Also, a quick discussion on price turned into a speech about ... how I should strongly consider the store's watch protection coverage."

These points are very valid and have absolutely nothing to do with a "swatch" or a "slot machine" or "cheapening the brand" by "haggling for swap shop prices."

drakulie · 5 September 2017, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeyKoffee

You couldn't be more off base and without merit. Let me help you out ...

OP said ...

" I noticed they had an older version with the solid white gold 3-6-9 numerals as well as the newer lume-filled one on display. I asked the friendly salesperson how long they've had the older version of the Explorer, and was told Rolex likes to mix and match little details like that and they're both brand new... alrighty then."

"Also, a quick discussion on price turned into a speech about ... how I should strongly consider the store's watch protection coverage."

These points are very valid and have absolutely nothing to do with a "swatch" or a "slot machine" or "cheapening the brand" by "haggling for swap shop prices."

Title of thread.
Didn't get price he wanted.
Go to online sales entity to get it cheaper.
End.

Granimal · 1 September 2017, 03:52 PM

I was able to get the best price from David SW for the watch I was looking for. I'll post an incoming thread (time to peel off all the little plastic stickers)!

sager · 1 September 2017, 04:54 PM

Can't go wrong with David SW

Stx · 2 September 2017, 12:19 AM

I find some AD's are 'upper crust' and act like talking price is beneath the dignity of their establishment. I also went to a small town jeweler where a discount was offered and a better one obtained. So, don't be discouraged by one AD. I got a new Exp 1 last week for less than the gray prices I saw (but I had that as a backup).

AD's offer some benefits - my credit card extends the warranty for 2 years on NEW items, he fit the bracelet then put on a strap for me, there's no question about the Rolex warranty, it was out of state and mailed to me, and it's a fairly close spot I can take the watch to if I need to.

Sunny Arizona · 2 September 2017, 11:56 AM

You can get the older one pretty cheap second hand. Price on the newer one is coming down too.

31 August 2017, 11:15 PM	#5
ras47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Northern NJ Watch: 16710 BLRO Posts: 3,064	These ADs are hit or miss. Omega is the same way. My nearest OB is incredible. The reps are all WIS types and most have collections that span many brands, not just Omega. Some of the non-OB authorized dealers, however, are nothing like this. A few are great and have a rep or two that are passionate about the brand. Others have no clue and simply want to sell you ANYthing. I imagine it's the same with Rolex. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II BLRO 16710 Omega Speedmaster Co-Axial Chrono

30 August 2017, 01:26 AM	#1
hoppes-no9 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: DC Metro Posts: 327	I don't see a problem whatsoever with this A.D. experience.

30 August 2017, 01:57 AM	#2
Muzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: TO CAD, HCMC VN Watch: MP 18946 Posts: 7,292	Well, if you were after the older version it would have been a jackpot. Technically they are both new. Discount, well in my experience LA ADs seldom discount. I get what you are saying but all in all it wasn't that bad.

31 August 2017, 07:16 PM	#3
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	I've heard worse AD stories. Truth is some ADs won't discount SS models especially without a relationship. Remember most of us on here know more than the avg sales person. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 August 2017, 11:03 PM	#4
MCO1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Missouri USA Watch: Daytona C white Posts: 2,248	I bet at best 1 out of 50 visitors at an AD would know the the change to the Explorer or even know what the Basel Fair is that we all look forward to every year which gives us a heads up on such things. I don't expect the sales person to know much "ever" then I am pleasantly surprised when they do and a great conversation ensues. They will sell the "first gen" to someone who doesn't know any different and likes the shiny 3,6,9 better. The hands won't make any difference because nobody but us would notice such trivial details, heck I don't even notice the hands when using mine.:)

31 August 2017, 11:20 PM	#6
melrob1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 968	Waste of your first post. Not that bad. Put some positivity in the air. Just saying.

31 August 2017, 11:45 PM	#8
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,995	Eh...to be honest, I think you may be putting too much thought into it. Don't automatically assume that because of TRF, you know more than the sales clerk. While there is a new model of Explorer, Rolex no doubt still has some of the old ones hanging around and they've got to move them...so the older model may very well have been delivered at the same time as the newer one. As a matter of fact, if it had stickers and the whole nine yards, it would be considered brand new. As far as discounts, it doesn't hurt to ask, but don't be shocked if you don't get one. If they can move that piece without a discount (and they can), they would be stupid to give it to you for less. My advice: find an AD that you're comfortable with, develop a relationship with them, and also explore some of our wonderful trusted sellers on TRF. When you're shopping for your next watch you can give everybody a shot and walk away with the best deal for you.

1 September 2017, 09:03 AM	#9
chris242 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: The Bahamas Watch: 116610lv Posts: 1,078	which AD did you go to? i went into the new Santa Monica location last night. they were pretty friendly

1 September 2017, 11:19 AM	#10
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,350	On reading OPs story, I don't necessarily hear anything negative. Many Rolex ADs don't budge on price and this is especially true in the major cities. The salesperson doesn't seem like he/she was rude to OP and wasn't arguing with OP nor did he/she refuse to let OP try on the watch. Just because an AD salesperson didn't treat you like a king and didn't offer a 40% discount, doesn't mean it wasn't a good AD experience. It really depends on having a realistic expectation when you walk into an AD.

1 September 2017, 01:24 PM	#12
drakulie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 234	Hilarious how people want an expensive watch to show off or feel good about themselves but want to pay the price of a swatch knock off.

1 September 2017, 03:52 PM	#17
Granimal "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4	I was able to get the best price from David SW for the watch I was looking for. I'll post an incoming thread (time to peel off all the little plastic stickers)!

1 September 2017, 04:54 PM	#18
sager "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Sage Location: MENA Posts: 1,563	Can't go wrong with David SW

2 September 2017, 12:19 AM	#19
Stx "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Chicago Posts: 49	I find some AD's are 'upper crust' and act like talking price is beneath the dignity of their establishment. I also went to a small town jeweler where a discount was offered and a better one obtained. So, don't be discouraged by one AD. I got a new Exp 1 last week for less than the gray prices I saw (but I had that as a backup). AD's offer some benefits - my credit card extends the warranty for 2 years on NEW items, he fit the bracelet then put on a strap for me, there's no question about the Rolex warranty, it was out of state and mailed to me, and it's a fairly close spot I can take the watch to if I need to.

2 September 2017, 11:56 AM	#20
Sunny Arizona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Brad Location: Colorado Watch: 16613 Posts: 1,263	You can get the older one pretty cheap second hand. Price on the newer one is coming down too.

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