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puffnmo · 20 March 2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fat-sam

if they say $5065 ask them if they would lose a sale over $65? if they say yes, that would annoy me enough not to shop there, if they said no, of course not say well thats a start what about $4800!

Sammy - Good thinking - you are obviously a black-belt in negotiating!

fat-sam · 20 March 2007, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by puffnmo

Sammy - Good thinking - you are obviously a black-belt in negotiating!

its reversing the hard sell that sales people sometimes use, once they have admitted they would accept a little lower then originally stated, you dissmiss their 'no discounts' comment completely and start again, gradually wearing them down!

i once got a guy in a electrical store to pay for my cab home as i said that the internet offered free delivery

Spencer · 20 March 2007, 02:48 AM

I would be very very surprised if you can get ANY DISCOUNT what so ever on a popular Rolex model here in L.A., let alone at Geary’s and Tourneau. I use POLLACHEK JEWLERS, they are located in Sherman Oaks, Calabasas, and Thousand Oaks. You might be able to get a little discount from them depending on which model you buy, though I highly doubt you will on any SS Sport models.

Secondly, I wouldn’t get your hopes up for getting a discount in Vegas either. In my opinion Vegas is probably one of the toughest cities to buy a Rolex since it is such a huge tourist destination and people are willing to pay for price.

If someone is willing to eat the tax for you here in L.A. I would go with them That is probably the best deal you will find on any SS Sport model.

Spencer · 20 March 2007, 02:59 AM

Just read through each post, and something that I noticed is that those of you in the states receiving a nice discount typically live in smaller cities of the suburbs. Los Angeles is such a huge city, with so many Rolex AD’s, and even more individuals who covet Rolex so they really have no need to give a “substantial” if any type of discount. Same goes for Vegas strictly because of it’s tourism and how people magically feel like millionaires in Vegas just because they won a couple of hundred bucks the previous night.

Puffnmo, if I were you I would contact someone on this board who can point you in a good direction with one of their out of state AD’s, call them up and see if you can get 5-10% off and naturally you would also be saving on sales tax. I think the next Rolex I buy (which won’t be for a while

), will be done this way

tonelar · 20 March 2007, 03:51 AM

Like metioned already Vegas ADs are not going to offer you a discount. Maybe that SS GMT will be more likely to be discounted if the new ones are anounced in April.

One of the reasons Tourneaut won't discount is probably because they offer their cutomers 100% of their purchase prices on upgrades. So you can literally enjoy the SS GMT and trade it in for the new model when / if it comes out and only pay the difference in price no loss of your initial investment.

Sent you a PM by the way...

JJ Irani · 20 March 2007, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

He would have to move to Auckland and live next door to you.

Timascus · 20 March 2007, 06:46 AM

Spencer is spot on. There are so many people willing to pay MSRP in the major cities ADs have little incentive to discount.

If I wanted to make the purchase in person and stay in LA, I'd go to Monterary Park and check them out.

Otherwise call a few of the smaller, out of state ADs I'm sure other members here can recommend. Keep the money you save and apply it toward your NEXT purchase

newtamparealestate · 20 March 2007, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by puffnmo

Went back to Tourneau again today. They again said no discount possible, would have to pay $5,065.- BUT - I have acredit line open to me that would give me a full year to pay, at NO INTEREST. What do y'all think?

Just go for it. Is it really worth the hassle over 500.00? To me its not. Especially since its 12 months no interest, that alone is worth the savings. I love the 12 months no interest. I would rathe keep my cash for other things. I use Jared Galleria of jewelry here in tampa, they have a Jared price on certain models which is anywhere from 5-10% off MSRP. Its just a set price, no haggling and only on certain models. Its not on any SS Sport models or even some of the Tutone Sport models. I did get 8% off my Tutone yachtmaster but I would have bought it anyway. I like buying from an AD, and when I spend 8000.00 I am not all that concerned with 400.00 savings. Its great if its there but wont send me to a grey market. I like buying it in the store, I like the people there, I like MY name on the papers and I like the 2 year warranty from Rolex.

Dr Rock · 20 March 2007, 07:43 AM

"i once got a guy in a electrical store to pay for my cab home as i said that the internet offered free delivery"

Now that's what I call a ballbreaker negotiator

puffnmo · 20 March 2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by newtamparealestate

Just go for it. Is it really worth the hassle over 500.00? To me its not. Especially since its 12 months no interest, that alone is worth the savings. I love the 12 months no interest. I would rathe keep my cash for other things. I use Jared Galleria of jewelry here in tampa, they have a Jared price on certain models which is anywhere from 5-10% off MSRP. Its just a set price, no haggling and only on certain models. Its not on any SS Sport models or even some of the Tutone Sport models. I did get 8% off my Tutone yachtmaster but I would have bought it anyway. I like buying from an AD, and when I spend 8000.00 I am not all that concerned with 400.00 savings. Its great if its there but wont send me to a grey market. I like buying it in the store, I like the people there, I like MY name on the papers and I like the 2 year warranty from Rolex.

You know what- I'm coming around to your way of thinking. My most enjoyable Rolex purchases have been when I had money available, just went to a good AD, looked at lots of beautiful stuff, and then said "O.K., I'll take this one."
In a certain funny way, too much haggling takes away from the fun...

LKNGOOD · 20 March 2007, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by puffnmo

In a certain funny way, too much haggling takes away from the fun...

I will haggle everytime if I can get something for less then the next guy/gal. It's always worth a shot to ask - but I don't base my final decision on it.

If I get it for less - great for me but If I really want it - I will be willing to pay for it.

Worst thing they say is no

Blown Wide Open · 20 March 2007, 09:19 AM

If you are lazy and have money to burn, and can't keep your instant gratification tendencies in check, then by all means pay MSRP.

If you do a little bit of searching and find the best deal, then a discount is to be had. This is the joy of living in the United States, where competition is good, and those who service better get the deal.

I bet you would be thrilled to pay retail if the jewler offered a discount on some other products he had in stock for future holiday gift giving, or at the very least, made you feel as if they were attempting to win you business with an offer of a coffee, free Rolox catalog, and a smile.

PAtrick

chemist · 20 March 2007, 02:44 PM

I think the SS GMT the best you can get is 10% off. If they take off 8% from the sale tax. I probably take the deal. If for TT model, you should expect 20%.

kings4sap · 21 March 2007, 04:15 PM

PM - here is my .02....

LA or OC AD's - good luck on getting any discount. The best you can hope for are favorable finance deals (typically 6 mos or 1 year same as cash financing).

You could also get it from an AD in Vegas who can ship your watch back home to CA. They will discount the sales tax on those deals (Wynn's would do that and the smaller AD in Caesar's would do that).

If I am ever in the market for a DayDate I will fly to Oregon or Hawaii and see what I can do there. I have heard good things about the ability to get meaningful AD discounts.

If you want a good recommendation of an AD I just dealt with in OC PM me and I will give you a lead. Great service, no discoun, possibly a good financing deal.

K4S

puffnmo · 22 March 2007, 01:00 AM

Thanks Kings - I'm still waiting to pull the trigger. Haven't finally decided which one will be THE ONE. The good service and one year interest free financing I can get at "T". Going to Vegas tomorrow, and to the Wynn store. Can't wait... Cheers, Larry.

Blue Bull · 22 March 2007, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by puffnmo

You know what- I'm coming around to your way of thinking. My most enjoyable Rolex purchases have been when I had money available, just went to a good AD, looked at lots of beautiful stuff, and then said "O.K., I'll take this one."
In a certain funny way, too much haggling takes away from the fun...

Learn to love the haggling,see it as part of the fun.This is important,when the AD dont know you.On the Dweller I did not have to haggle at all and was offered ,less 28%,immediately.He knows the other AD,where I do business,gives less 25%.So,he gave a better deal from the start.

If you are in the States and live in an area where discounts are nil or little,buy out of state.Sounds very simple ,really.Get a larger discount from the AD and score on tax ...

Incurable · 22 March 2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Bull

Learn to love the haggling,see it as part of the fun.This is important,when the AD dont know you.On the Dweller I did not have to haggle at all and was offered ,less 28%,immediately.He knows the other AD,where I do business,gives less 25%.So,he gave a better deal from the start.

If you are in the States and live in an area where discounts are nil or little,buy out of state.Sounds very simple ,really.Get a larger discount from the AD and score on tax ...

Sheesh... 25%-28% is pretty much unheard of here in the states. At least AFAIK... On my most recent purchase, (SS GMT-II) I got 15% off and considered myself lucky...

Blue Bull · 22 March 2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Incurable

Sheesh... 25%-28% is pretty much unheard of here in the states. At least AFAIK... On my most recent purchase, (SS GMT-II) I got 15% off and considered myself lucky...

Yes,but our list is higher ,so it equals about less 15% in the States ...

Spencer · 22 March 2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by puffnmo

Thanks Kings - I'm still waiting to pull the trigger. Haven't finally decided which one will be THE ONE. The good service and one year interest free financing I can get at "T". Going to Vegas tomorrow, and to the Wynn store. Can't wait... Cheers, Larry.

Have fun and good luck in Vegas! Unfortunately getting a discount is harder in Vegas than L.A. IMO. If I were you, buy it at the Wynn store and have them ship it back to you CA to save the tax.

langejl · 1 April 2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sashton8

I picked my SD up the other day from a AD for 10% off and no tax. I live in Virginia

PM me. I am here in Upstate and the AD wont budge on the $5375 for the F series SD. I have a friend in VA and could head down there, no problem.

thanks

sammy911 · 1 April 2007, 10:06 AM

I was told there is over 30% markup...You would think the AD's would be alittle flexible but I also understand that these watches are not distressed items and will sell regardless. I guess it keeps just anyone from having one.

diablojota · 1 April 2007, 10:25 AM

Go grey market. Get a new one, no tax for 4350.

Tombstone · 1 April 2007, 02:06 PM

I called Rolex in Dallas last year to complain about an AD who had a new, not used LV Sub and wanted $800.00 over retail. Rolex told me they do not control what ADs charge for their product. I was told that the MSRP is just that, a recommendation. I also asked if this was the same for discounts, again I was told that was up to the AD. So bottom line any AD who tells you Rolex will not let them discount is lying, get out of there and never return. If you don’t believe me call Rolex for your self complain about an AD charging over list and see what they tell you. Rolex will not even ask who the AD is who is overcharging because they do not care.

Thank G - - I waited and found my LV Sub (at retail) in Hawaii several months later. To date the LV Sub is the only Rolex in my collection I have ever paid full retail for.

My point, there is nothing in this world you can not get at a discount. It is a buyers market ALWAYS! You have the gold the seller wants it. Sellers would love all of us (the consumers) to walk in the door without a brain and pay full price, it makes them money. I obtain wealth by keeping, not giving my money away. I love to deal with sales people who act as if can not discount and they know it all they don’t. Walk out the door buy your watch some place else, then educate the individual by returning with the same product (be polite of course) and show them that their sales skills need to be refined.

Once you find a good AD support him/her and let the ADs who refused to discount go out of business, or at least loose you future business. I too have cost of living expenses that should remain with me and not go to support a sales group who chooses to act foolish that is enticed by greed and fails to see the value of a life long returning customer.

Arturo · 1 April 2007, 05:16 PM

My AD in Oregon is straight on the MRSP for most. WIll negotiate for GMT and SUBs but not with LV or rare watch. Will NEVER ask more than MRSP even for SS Daytona. MRSP is the price. My AD does lifetime cleaning and has a certified Rolex technician from RSC there to work on watch all the time and no charge for customers to set the time or calibrate. If I want a Daytona, and they get 2 or 3 SS a year, I will get a call and that will be available at MRSP, no more no less.

You can spend a lot of gas and time trying to save 10% on a 5K watch. If you have to travel and get a hotel and all that ....hey that is $500 right there. You may want to cultivate a relationship with your dealer right next to you and pay the MRSP for certain watches.

TexasRolex · 1 April 2007, 05:58 PM

I was offered 10% at an AD in Dallas on TT DJ. Told the sales person that we were looking his-and-hers Rolex for anniversary. I was surprised at how quick and eager she was to offer discount on them. She even mentioned that I could save on taxes by shipping it out of state. We ended up getting the watch in HK, but discounts are possible, at least on TT DJ.

diablojota · 2 April 2007, 02:20 AM

I think just about any watch with gold in it at Rolex is more susceptible to higher discounts. Even on the grey market there is a higher discount rate on models with gold in them.

sammy911 · 2 April 2007, 05:21 AM

I tried the local AD's and they a;; said the same. Sorry no discount. Found some out of state but was uncomfortable buying that way. I ended up going to a local preowned guy and found my D series for about cost if new. I am happy and he negotiated a bit also. Even had the halogram still on it

sammy911 · 2 April 2007, 05:24 AM

I agree 150% with Tombstone. I am in the car business here in Atlanta. Dealers try to get greedy in a buyers market and loose to much business because the try to make too much on one customer instead of some on a few. You get a much bigger return in volumn...

fat-sam · 2 April 2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Rock

"i once got a guy in a electrical store to pay for my cab home as i said that the internet offered free delivery"

Now that's what I call a ballbreaker negotiator

tottenham court road

Incurable · 2 April 2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sammy911

I tried the local AD's and they a;; said the same. Sorry no discount. Found some out of state but was uncomfortable buying that way. I ended up going to a local preowned guy and found my D series for about cost if new. I am happy and he negotiated a bit also. Even had the halogram still on it

Uhoh... better have it checked for authenticity. Genuine Rolex comes with a hologram. If yours had a halogram, it might be a Ralex....
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20 March 2007, 02:48 AM	#33
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	I would be very very surprised if you can get ANY DISCOUNT what so ever on a popular Rolex model here in L.A., let alone at Geary’s and Tourneau. I use POLLACHEK JEWLERS, they are located in Sherman Oaks, Calabasas, and Thousand Oaks. You might be able to get a little discount from them depending on which model you buy, though I highly doubt you will on any SS Sport models. Secondly, I wouldn’t get your hopes up for getting a discount in Vegas either. In my opinion Vegas is probably one of the toughest cities to buy a Rolex since it is such a huge tourist destination and people are willing to pay for price. If someone is willing to eat the tax for you here in L.A. I would go with them That is probably the best deal you will find on any SS Sport model. __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

20 March 2007, 02:59 AM	#34
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	Just read through each post, and something that I noticed is that those of you in the states receiving a nice discount typically live in smaller cities of the suburbs. Los Angeles is such a huge city, with so many Rolex AD’s, and even more individuals who covet Rolex so they really have no need to give a “substantial” if any type of discount. Same goes for Vegas strictly because of it’s tourism and how people magically feel like millionaires in Vegas just because they won a couple of hundred bucks the previous night. Puffnmo, if I were you I would contact someone on this board who can point you in a good direction with one of their out of state AD’s, call them up and see if you can get 5-10% off and naturally you would also be saving on sales tax. I think the next Rolex I buy (which won’t be for a while ), will be done this way __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

20 March 2007, 03:51 AM	#35
tonelar "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Tony Location: san francisco Watch: Seadweller Posts: 1,368	Like metioned already Vegas ADs are not going to offer you a discount. Maybe that SS GMT will be more likely to be discounted if the new ones are anounced in April. One of the reasons Tourneaut won't discount is probably because they offer their cutomers 100% of their purchase prices on upgrades. So you can literally enjoy the SS GMT and trade it in for the new model when / if it comes out and only pay the difference in price no loss of your initial investment. Sent you a PM by the way... __________________ It's a rarity that something popular is actually right... Wear 'em with PRIDE, y'all.

20 March 2007, 09:19 AM	#42
Blown Wide Open "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Real Name: Patrick Location: Pennsylvania Watch: All with a crown. Posts: 504	If you are lazy and have money to burn, and can't keep your instant gratification tendencies in check, then by all means pay MSRP. If you do a little bit of searching and find the best deal, then a discount is to be had. This is the joy of living in the United States, where competition is good, and those who service better get the deal. I bet you would be thrilled to pay retail if the jewler offered a discount on some other products he had in stock for future holiday gift giving, or at the very least, made you feel as if they were attempting to win you business with an offer of a coffee, free Rolox catalog, and a smile. PAtrick __________________ "I wouldn't be part of any club that would have me as a member." Instagram: El_Diablo_Rosso Last edited by Blown Wide Open; 20 March 2007 at 09:22 AM.. Reason: new ideas

20 March 2007, 02:44 PM	#43
chemist Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: usa Posts: 77	discount I think the SS GMT the best you can get is 10% off. If they take off 8% from the sale tax. I probably take the deal. If for TT model, you should expect 20%.

20 March 2007, 06:46 AM	#37
Timascus Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 78	Spencer is spot on. There are so many people willing to pay MSRP in the major cities ADs have little incentive to discount. If I wanted to make the purchase in person and stay in LA, I'd go to Monterary Park and check them out. Otherwise call a few of the smaller, out of state ADs I'm sure other members here can recommend. Keep the money you save and apply it toward your NEXT purchase

20 March 2007, 07:43 AM	#39
Dr Rock "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 58	"i once got a guy in a electrical store to pay for my cab home as i said that the internet offered free delivery" Now that's what I call a ballbreaker negotiator

21 March 2007, 04:15 PM	#44
kings4sap "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Steve Location: The O.C. Watch: DD 40 Posts: 447	PM - here is my .02.... LA or OC AD's - good luck on getting any discount. The best you can hope for are favorable finance deals (typically 6 mos or 1 year same as cash financing). You could also get it from an AD in Vegas who can ship your watch back home to CA. They will discount the sales tax on those deals (Wynn's would do that and the smaller AD in Caesar's would do that). If I am ever in the market for a DayDate I will fly to Oregon or Hawaii and see what I can do there. I have heard good things about the ability to get meaningful AD discounts. If you want a good recommendation of an AD I just dealt with in OC PM me and I will give you a lead. Great service, no discoun, possibly a good financing deal. K4S

22 March 2007, 01:00 AM	#45
puffnmo Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 848	Thanks Kings - I'm still waiting to pull the trigger. Haven't finally decided which one will be THE ONE. The good service and one year interest free financing I can get at "T". Going to Vegas tomorrow, and to the Wynn store. Can't wait... Cheers, Larry.

1 April 2007, 10:06 AM	#51
sammy911 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Jim Location: atlanta Watch: Explorer II Posts: 32	I was told there is over 30% markup...You would think the AD's would be alittle flexible but I also understand that these watches are not distressed items and will sell regardless. I guess it keeps just anyone from having one.

1 April 2007, 10:25 AM	#52
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	Go grey market. Get a new one, no tax for 4350. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

1 April 2007, 02:06 PM	#53
Tombstone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Richard Location: LV, NV Watch: LV Sub and others Posts: 2,689	I called Rolex in Dallas last year to complain about an AD who had a new, not used LV Sub and wanted $800.00 over retail. Rolex told me they do not control what ADs charge for their product. I was told that the MSRP is just that, a recommendation. I also asked if this was the same for discounts, again I was told that was up to the AD. So bottom line any AD who tells you Rolex will not let them discount is lying, get out of there and never return. If you don’t believe me call Rolex for your self complain about an AD charging over list and see what they tell you. Rolex will not even ask who the AD is who is overcharging because they do not care. Thank G - - I waited and found my LV Sub (at retail) in Hawaii several months later. To date the LV Sub is the only Rolex in my collection I have ever paid full retail for. My point, there is nothing in this world you can not get at a discount. It is a buyers market ALWAYS! You have the gold the seller wants it. Sellers would love all of us (the consumers) to walk in the door without a brain and pay full price, it makes them money. I obtain wealth by keeping, not giving my money away. I love to deal with sales people who act as if can not discount and they know it all they don’t. Walk out the door buy your watch some place else, then educate the individual by returning with the same product (be polite of course) and show them that their sales skills need to be refined. Once you find a good AD support him/her and let the ADs who refused to discount go out of business, or at least loose you future business. I too have cost of living expenses that should remain with me and not go to support a sales group who chooses to act foolish that is enticed by greed and fails to see the value of a life long returning customer.

1 April 2007, 05:16 PM	#54
Arturo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Arturo Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: Black GMT ll Posts: 1,271	My AD in Oregon is straight on the MRSP for most. WIll negotiate for GMT and SUBs but not with LV or rare watch. Will NEVER ask more than MRSP even for SS Daytona. MRSP is the price. My AD does lifetime cleaning and has a certified Rolex technician from RSC there to work on watch all the time and no charge for customers to set the time or calibrate. If I want a Daytona, and they get 2 or 3 SS a year, I will get a call and that will be available at MRSP, no more no less. You can spend a lot of gas and time trying to save 10% on a 5K watch. If you have to travel and get a hotel and all that ....hey that is $500 right there. You may want to cultivate a relationship with your dealer right next to you and pay the MRSP for certain watches.

1 April 2007, 05:58 PM	#55
TexasRolex Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dallas, TX, USA Posts: 17	I was offered 10% at an AD in Dallas on TT DJ. Told the sales person that we were looking his-and-hers Rolex for anniversary. I was surprised at how quick and eager she was to offer discount on them. She even mentioned that I could save on taxes by shipping it out of state. We ended up getting the watch in HK, but discounts are possible, at least on TT DJ.

2 April 2007, 02:20 AM	#56
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	I think just about any watch with gold in it at Rolex is more susceptible to higher discounts. Even on the grey market there is a higher discount rate on models with gold in them. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

2 April 2007, 05:21 AM	#57
sammy911 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Jim Location: atlanta Watch: Explorer II Posts: 32	I tried the local AD's and they a;; said the same. Sorry no discount. Found some out of state but was uncomfortable buying that way. I ended up going to a local preowned guy and found my D series for about cost if new. I am happy and he negotiated a bit also. Even had the halogram still on it

2 April 2007, 05:24 AM	#58
sammy911 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Jim Location: atlanta Watch: Explorer II Posts: 32	I agree 150% with Tombstone. I am in the car business here in Atlanta. Dealers try to get greedy in a buyers market and loose to much business because the try to make too much on one customer instead of some on a few. You get a much bigger return in volumn...

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