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SS Oyster · 10 February 2011, 03:15 AM

SubC LV is my vote as well.

rad87gn · 10 February 2011, 03:16 AM

If Rolex decides to release the YM-II is TT and SS models then the rarity goes out the window further.

rolexertion · 10 February 2011, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cgjane

The Yachmaster II is definitely going to be a rare beast in 30 years, it is a rare beast now.

The price also deters alot of buyers, much like the Daytonas in the 60s.

from JRM:

http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2010/0...istory-of.html

What is $210 in 1960 in todays dollars?

$210? I'll take 10 of them. No, make that 20.

L-16610 · 10 February 2011, 05:35 AM

look at my signature

gone-rolex-mad · 10 February 2011, 04:51 PM

SD 16600 perhaps

horseco · 10 February 2011, 05:15 PM

Pepsi & Coke GMT master's, M serial #, 3186 movement... classic & rare... a sure fire future "grail" watch...

GradyPhilpott · 10 February 2011, 05:20 PM

The 114270 Z-series and before and the 214270 with the short minute hand.

general · 10 February 2011, 05:25 PM

Daytona!!! Limited quantity is produced. If you are lucky to be able to get one at MSRP, you can wear it for a few years and sell it for full price. Now in 30 years or so, you know it is going to be worth more.

dsio · 10 February 2011, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseco

Pepsi & Coke GMT master's, M serial #, 3186 movement... classic & rare... a sure fire future "grail" watch...

Think it might be hard for it to become a vintage grail in years to come, most of them are visibly identifiable as something special, the M series, its on the inside, so unless you walk up to people and wiggle your little GMT-hand at them, its going to be a bit tricky for anyone to appreciate it.

The GMT Master · 10 February 2011, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by general

Daytona!!! Limited quantity is produced. If you are lucky to be able to get one at MSRP, you can wear it for a few years and sell it for full price. Now in 30 years or so, you know it is going to be worth more.

No chance at all. The Daytona is definitely not a rare watch - if anything, it's one of the most popular sports models. In a typical year, we sell only one or two less than steel GMTs or Subs. We sell far more Daytonas than Explorers, Explorer IIs, Yachtmasters, Deepseas and Milgausses. If anything, the current Daytona is probably the least likely watch to be collectible in the future. The only reason why the original Daytona is so valuable now is because it didn't sell, it was chronically unpopular

ElPrimero · 10 February 2011, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

A long shot perhaps the YM11

Can't wait for the YM11. Do you think it will be launched at Basel 2080??

alexxelor · 10 February 2011, 09:40 PM

Sd 16600 next future

lordcon · 10 February 2011, 09:51 PM

I agree. I think the 40mm sea-dweller is going to be a thing of the past. There are a lot of them out there, the demand isnt very high - but with all the "super casing" and ceramic bezeling going on, people will miss the old smaller tank.

I think a lot of people dont realize the 16600 is one of the only watches with a deep sea depth rating in a 40mm package. It makes it unique for that reason. All other watches with crazy depth ratings are typically 42mm and up.

-j

Mosco · 10 February 2011, 10:39 PM

I completely disagree about the YMII's... Reason being, they will inevitably come out in a TT version, then SS. Now, depending on the production numbers on the steel ones - who knows, maybe they will be a 'grail' eventually.

But in my opinion, it is the 'sleepers' that will be a highly sought-after vintage collectibles. Primarily the white Milgauss (as the GV is a given future grail - prices have come up significantly on them already), I think.

Intruder99 · 10 February 2011, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosco

I completely disagree about the YMII's... Reason being, they will inevitably come out in a TT version, then SS. Now, depending on the production numbers on the steel ones - who knows, maybe they will be a 'grail' eventually.

But in my opinion, it is the 'sleepers' that will be a highly sought-after vintage collectibles. Primarily the white Milgauss (as the GV is a given future grail - prices have come up significantly on them already), I think.

I like your signature Mosco!

I can see your point, they have put a lot of work into making the YM 2 movement and haven't sold many, so just bring out the TT and SS to to able to get the watch out and about, but i have a gut feeling they will leave well alone.
I think mothballing the Milgauss black and white then selling as a pair in the future would be worthwhile. I'm wearing mine, so that's not an option for me.

Edit added,
Has anyone heard of a watch being mothballed and displayed in a glass case. Never worn. For the purpose of selling in the future. It could be easily done nowadays on the internet.

theken · 10 February 2011, 11:15 PM

Sub 16610V
GMT2 16610 (3186 movement)
Sub 14060M (cosc)

nauticajoe · 10 February 2011, 11:26 PM

16600
16710 "m"

The GMT Master · 10 February 2011, 11:32 PM

I too think that Rolex won't be bringing the YM II into non-18ct variants. They've certainly not followed the development pattern they usually do with sports watches: introduce the 18ct first, then TT the next year, before unveiling the steel model. I think Rolex see the cal. 4160 as their tourbillon, the one movement that really shows off their prowess - it's not the done thing to put a flagship movement into a non-precious metal case. I think they want it to be truly exclusive.

Besides, I'm sure it needs their top watchmakers to service (servicing prices are significantly higher on the YM II than other Rolex models) - if they made it more accessible by having it in steel and TT, it could cause servicing issues. This point is pure speculation, but I would suspect there is a practical aspect behind it as well

Intruder99 · 10 February 2011, 11:46 PM

Rolex needed to go beyond and build the mechanical memory on the YM 2. I think they will leave this forever as the ultimate in that area in the YG & WG. I can see them adding and innovating more movement technology to other models therefore creating more demand.

dsio · 10 February 2011, 11:54 PM

The other somewhat complicated watch in the line-up is the DD, and its still 18k/PT, not sure what a SS version would even look like, they'd have to "downgrade" its dial and bezel from the WG if they made one like they do the Daytona, and that's probably not practical.

bewithabob · 11 February 2011, 12:02 AM

I think the Meteorite Daytona will be collectible, because every face is unique, the movement is superb, and no two look the same....uncommon and authentic!

here is mine- http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=34267

dsio · 11 February 2011, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bewithabob

I think the Meteorite Daytona will be collectible, because every face is unique, the movement is superb, and no two look the same....uncommon and authentic!

here is mine- http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=34267

If that 300M wide meteorite hits the earth in 2036, they might get a bit more common

10 February 2011, 03:16 AM	#32
rad87gn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chad Location: Des Moines, Iowa Watch: Rolex, PAM, Omega Posts: 1,607	If Rolex decides to release the YM-II is TT and SS models then the rarity goes out the window further. __________________ Rolex P-Series SS GMT II Black, Rolex Y-Series Sea-Dweller, Rolex F-Series TT Blue Sub, Rolex F-Series Sub LV, Rolex D-Series Ladies SS/WG DJ for wife, Panerai K-Series PAM 112, Omega Speedmaster Pro 3570.50, Omega Seamaster 300M Chrono 2594.52

10 February 2011, 04:51 PM	#35
gone-rolex-mad "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Andalucia Spain Watch: WG daydate-Daytona Posts: 1,338	SD 16600 perhaps __________________ Choose to allocate your time to imbeciles at your peril!

10 February 2011, 05:20 PM	#37
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,449	The 114270 Z-series and before and the 214270 with the short minute hand. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

10 February 2011, 10:39 PM	#44
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	I completely disagree about the YMII's... Reason being, they will inevitably come out in a TT version, then SS. Now, depending on the production numbers on the steel ones - who knows, maybe they will be a 'grail' eventually. But in my opinion, it is the 'sleepers' that will be a highly sought-after vintage collectibles. Primarily the white Milgauss (as the GV is a given future grail - prices have come up significantly on them already), I think. __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

10 February 2011, 11:54 PM	#50
dsio "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Ashley Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 '79 Posts: 2,301	The other somewhat complicated watch in the line-up is the DD, and its still 18k/PT, not sure what a SS version would even look like, they'd have to "downgrade" its dial and bezel from the WG if they made one like they do the Daytona, and that's probably not practical. __________________ -- Omega Seamaster Grand-Lux Stepped Pie-Pan 14K Gold OJ2627 '53 -- -- Omega Cal 320 Chronograph 18K Gold OT2872 '58 -- -- Omega Cal 321 Speedmaster Pro 145.012 '67 -- -- Rolex Submariner 1680 "Ghost" '79 -- -- Rolex SS Daytona 116520 '04 --

10 February 2011, 03:15 AM	#31
SS Oyster 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,202	SubC LV is my vote as well.

10 February 2011, 05:35 AM	#34
L-16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 825	look at my signature

10 February 2011, 05:15 PM	#36
horseco "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Anthony Location: North Jersey Watch: Daytona 116528 Posts: 3,425	Pepsi & Coke GMT master's, M serial #, 3186 movement... classic & rare... a sure fire future "grail" watch...

10 February 2011, 05:25 PM	#38
general "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 723	Daytona!!! Limited quantity is produced. If you are lucky to be able to get one at MSRP, you can wear it for a few years and sell it for full price. Now in 30 years or so, you know it is going to be worth more.

10 February 2011, 09:40 PM	#42
alexxelor Banned Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: alessandro Location: ROMA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 675	Sd 16600 next future

10 February 2011, 09:51 PM	#43
lordcon "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Jason Location: MD, USA Watch: 16600 SD_Z serial Posts: 309	I agree. I think the 40mm sea-dweller is going to be a thing of the past. There are a lot of them out there, the demand isnt very high - but with all the "super casing" and ceramic bezeling going on, people will miss the old smaller tank. I think a lot of people dont realize the 16600 is one of the only watches with a deep sea depth rating in a 40mm package. It makes it unique for that reason. All other watches with crazy depth ratings are typically 42mm and up. -j

10 February 2011, 11:15 PM	#46
theken "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 3,417	Sub 16610V GMT2 16610 (3186 movement) Sub 14060M (cosc)

10 February 2011, 11:26 PM	#47
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	16600 16710 "m"

10 February 2011, 11:32 PM	#48
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	I too think that Rolex won't be bringing the YM II into non-18ct variants. They've certainly not followed the development pattern they usually do with sports watches: introduce the 18ct first, then TT the next year, before unveiling the steel model. I think Rolex see the cal. 4160 as their tourbillon, the one movement that really shows off their prowess - it's not the done thing to put a flagship movement into a non-precious metal case. I think they want it to be truly exclusive. Besides, I'm sure it needs their top watchmakers to service (servicing prices are significantly higher on the YM II than other Rolex models) - if they made it more accessible by having it in steel and TT, it could cause servicing issues. This point is pure speculation, but I would suspect there is a practical aspect behind it as well

10 February 2011, 11:46 PM	#49
Intruder99 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: England Watch: Milgauss Black Posts: 288	Rolex needed to go beyond and build the mechanical memory on the YM 2. I think they will leave this forever as the ultimate in that area in the YG & WG. I can see them adding and innovating more movement technology to other models therefore creating more demand.

11 February 2011, 12:02 AM	#51
bewithabob "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Bob Location: Dallas, Texas Watch: Daytona Meteorite Posts: 3,417	I think the Meteorite Daytona will be collectible, because every face is unique, the movement is superb, and no two look the same....uncommon and authentic! here is mine- http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=34267 __________________ meteor flying to Earth onto my wrist... 116509 Daytona Meteorite, 116520 Daytona Black, 116710 GMTIIC, 16013 DATEJUST, CARTIER SANTOS 100 W20090X8, IWC Big Pilot, IWC Top Gun "Everything works out in the end. If it hasn't worked out, it's not the end."

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