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Grumpy Badger · 30 March 2011, 06:31 PM

I'm pretty sure they do accept your watch...

But I'm not going back to their website... I might be tempted!

Clay · 30 March 2011, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Welcome to TRF...

But,

I feel your pain.....

swatty · 30 March 2011, 06:34 PM

Welcome to TRF, Please post pics when you have had it done

Rolex116520 · 30 March 2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

what can I say...I'm a sucker for black....it never goes out of fashion....doesn't show dirt & makes one look slim

BTW "L'Uomo Curmudgeon Vogue" (bible for stylish curmudgeons) is celebrating the 75th anniversary of black as THE color for curmudgeons.

Ebenezer , Isn't PVD-ing a perfectly good classic Rolex model one of the Curmudgeon deadly sins ? Just after filling in lug holes , upgrading to PCL ,SEL's and luminova ?

Black ? Yes but as in black matte or gloss dials

Rolex116520 · 30 March 2011, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

I'm pretty sure they do accept your watch...

But I'm not going back to their website... I might be tempted!

Sure they will accept your watch and a 1000 pounds check ... only after wearing the watch for 6 months it will start looking like one of these "zebra" things Rolex brought out

wokafu · 30 March 2011, 06:47 PM

hmm..interesting...i wonder how would it look like...have you done it yet?

dddrees · 30 March 2011, 07:59 PM

Keep us posted, I am interested to see how this comes out.

Grumpy Badger · 30 March 2011, 08:07 PM

Why not keep your sub unaltered and buy something like a PVD Doxa?
The Doxa would be factory spec, under warranty and probably cost less than "modifying" your Sub.
That way you'd have two watches for the price of one, your Doxa would be new and under warranty and Rolex would still service your sub!

Just my thoughts...

Victis · 30 March 2011, 10:46 PM

Kayne West is a gay fish.

TKB · 30 March 2011, 11:14 PM

i cringed when i saw a blacked out daytona.....that is all. i would do it to a older DJ tho if i HAVE to

cgjane · 30 March 2011, 11:21 PM

Variety is the spice of life.

I saw the ghastly orange DLC in the FS section. Made me realize how much I liked mine:

The Rolex owners who do mods and customizations are helping the purists love their untouched Rolex more.

Faith is nothing more than a belief if left untested.

KirkWilfred · 31 March 2011, 01:05 AM

Rolex abuse!

slcbbrown · 31 March 2011, 01:24 AM

Good luck. I'm a believer that a tool watch should be designed to be tough for whatever job it's made for. Any coating over stainless is going to have some kind of adherence problem. Which coating has the best history?

I hear great things about DLC and less good things about PVD. How much abuse can PVD handle? Keep in mind that claims of hardness of coating are swell, but a hard coating can still fall off. My understanding is that PVD is just another plating-type system, and the black is just stuck on the stainless. DLC is supposedly different but wildly expensive. Again, DLC may only be "stuck" on the watch.

The only coating that I know of that is different is galvanizing, which alloys zinc with the iron in steel. This creates an alloy bond. However, galvanizing is ugly and purely for industrial finishes. Also, most stainless steels won't galvanize.

Good luck, with your watch.

cgjane · 31 March 2011, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slcbbrown

Good luck. I'm a believer that a tool watch should be designed to be tough for whatever job it's made for. Any coating over stainless is going to have some kind of adherence problem. Which coating has the best history?

I hear great things about DLC and less good things about PVD. How much abuse can PVD handle? Keep in mind that claims of hardness of coating are swell, but a hard coating can still fall off. My understanding is that PVD is just another plating-type system, and the black is just stuck on the stainless. DLC is supposedly different but wildly expensive. Again, DLC may only be "stuck" on the watch.

The only coating that I know of that is different is galvanizing, which alloys zinc with the iron in steel. This creates an alloy bond. However, galvanizing is ugly and purely for industrial finishes. Also, most stainless steels won't galvanize.

Good luck, with your watch.

My watch is a DLC. Technically it is still a PVD.

PVD is the process, DLC is the actual Coat/Material. There are other coatings out there that use the same PVD process.

Newportkrieger · 31 March 2011, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzRolex

I just purchased a used Submariner with the intent to have it blacked out. I have researched a few companies, but could really use a recommendation.
Has anyone here blacked out a Rolex? If so, how did yours turn out & would you recommend your vendor?

Any stories good or bad that you can share?

Thank you!!

I am really curious as to WHY? What is your motivation to do this? Please be honest.

garGARgar · 31 March 2011, 01:32 AM

I don't know if I'd ever do it to one of my watches, however, I do kind of like the stealthy look. I would definitely wear one. It's your watch, and it's completely up to you what you want to do with it.

Newportkrieger · 31 March 2011, 01:42 AM

Looking at the OP's profile... non existant, the posts... this is the first one, the join date....3/28/11.....hmmmmmm

troll??

slcbbrown · 31 March 2011, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgjane

My watch is a DLC. Technically it is still a PVD.

PVD is the process, DLC is the actual Coat/Material. There are other coatings out there that use the same PVD process.

I learn something everyday. Also, like your blacked out watch.

RedwinGV · 31 March 2011, 03:19 AM

welcome to the board.

The look is unique and different. To those that are in pain seeing it, then why is it ok to brush the PCL's on a bracelet (yeah I know, they can be polished later.) When someone does that, thumbs up show all over the place.

I say, if you like it, go for it. You're the one wearing it.

I like the current look, but I wonder how many would be on board with the black look? Gets me thinking anyway.

Lion · 31 March 2011, 03:32 AM

Welcome to the forum and if you do decide to modify your watch please remember to post some pictures for all of us to see!!!

garGARgar · 31 March 2011, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newportkrieger

Looking at the OP's profile... non existant, the posts... this is the first one, the join date....3/28/11.....hmmmmmm

troll??

Could be. But I have seen a lot of worse first posters.

Dr. Robert · 31 March 2011, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolex116520

Ebenezer , Isn't PVD-ing a perfectly good classic Rolex model one of the Curmudgeon deadly sins ? Just after filling in lug holes , upgrading to PCL ,SEL's and luminova ?

Black ? Yes but as in black matte or gloss dials

No, not a mortal sin....not even a venial one

What is more classic & curmudgeonly than basic black.....remember Henry Ford......you can have any color you want as long as it's black.

No, I grant special dispensation for black PVD/DLC whatever.......like the Stones sang
"I see a red watch & I want it painted black"

(213)GMT · 31 March 2011, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarSovereign

Don't do it...

Word

favonian · 31 March 2011, 08:55 AM

Eric Clapton PVD'd his GMTIIc and Newman Daytona! Got the pics in a japanese mag.

mtrunner · 1 April 2011, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

what can I say...I'm a sucker for black....it never goes out of fashion....doesn't show dirt & makes one look slim

BTW "L'Uomo Curmudgeon Vogue" (bible for stylish curmudgeons) is celebrating the 75th anniversary of black as THE color for curmudgeons.

I had to laugh about a black watch making you look slim!

Jason71 · 1 April 2011, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newportkrieger

Looking at the OP's profile... non existant, the posts... this is the first one, the join date....3/28/11.....hmmmmmm

troll??

So you call someone a troll just because he just joined and one of his first posts is one asking of a reliable source for DLC application????

You guys need to quit drinking the Rolex kool-aid. It is just a watch, and modifying it to fit your needs and tastes should be MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE

I can tell you that Jack@IWW did mine. It cost me $925, and he did a fantastic job. He is very meticulous and particular about the watches that he modifies or services. I had mine done because I have a whole slew of other Rolex watches. I needed something a little different, and a small part of me did it just to get the purists stirred-up. It is part of being a Curmudgeon.

I have 2 other 16600s and many other Rolex sports models. I wouldn't recommend doing the modification if it is your only Rolex. I just tire of the black watch and wouldn't want it as my only Rolex. I love to wear it in certain situations though

A couple pics of my "ruined" Seadweller

Jason71 · 1 April 2011, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

No, not a mortal sin....not even a venial one

What is more classic & curmudgeonly than basic black.....remember Henry Ford......you can have any color you want as long as it's black.

No, I grant special dispensation for black PVD/DLC whatever.......like the Stones sang
"I see a red watch & I want it painted black"

Bah Humbug

Sose · 1 April 2011, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason71

So you call someone a troll just because he just joined and one of his first posts is one asking of a reliable source for DLC application????

You guys need to quit drinking the Rolex kool-aid. It is just a watch, and modifying it to fit your needs and tastes should be MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE

I can tell you that Jack@IWW did mine. It cost me $925, and he did a fantastic job. He is very meticulous and particular about the watches that he modifies or services. I had mine done because I have a whole slew of other Rolex watches. I needed something a little different, and a small part of me did it just to get the purists stirred-up. It is part of being a Curmudgeon.

I have 2 other 16600s and many other Rolex sports models. I wouldn't recommend doing the modification if it is your only Rolex. I just tire of the black watch and wouldn't want it as my only Rolex. I love to wear it in certain situations though

A couple pics of my "ruined" Seadweller

That looks quite sharp!! And this coming from a man that doesn't like modding any item! Purist at heart, however, I can appreciate a great work of art!

Nice man!

Dr. Robert · 1 April 2011, 01:07 AM

Attn: Jason71.......I am playing "Paint it Black" by The Rolling Stones...very loud....in
your honor....your watch looks good!

bah humbug......I see a red watch & I want it painted black

Route 66 · 1 April 2011, 01:14 AM

Welcome to TRF!

I think you should do what pleases you and not worry about what the cynics here think.

As Abraham Lincoln said: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."

I think the same should be said for pleasing people.

30 March 2011, 06:31 PM	#31
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	I'm pretty sure they do accept your watch... But I'm not going back to their website... I might be tempted! __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

30 March 2011, 07:59 PM	#37
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Keep us posted, I am interested to see how this comes out. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

30 March 2011, 08:07 PM	#38
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	Why not keep your sub unaltered and buy something like a PVD Doxa? The Doxa would be factory spec, under warranty and probably cost less than "modifying" your Sub. That way you'd have two watches for the price of one, your Doxa would be new and under warranty and Rolex would still service your sub! Just my thoughts... __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

30 March 2011, 11:14 PM	#40
TKB "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Tai Location: Chicago Watch: 118339 Meteorite Posts: 289	i cringed when i saw a blacked out daytona.....that is all. i would do it to a older DJ tho if i HAVE to __________________ "Death Before Dishonor" WG DD Diamond Meteorite CC "Z" SS DJ Tux Dial Roulette Wheel "M"

30 March 2011, 11:21 PM	#41
cgjane "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Houston Watch: 116509 BlackArabic Posts: 1,176	Variety is the spice of life. I saw the ghastly orange DLC in the FS section. Made me realize how much I liked mine: The Rolex owners who do mods and customizations are helping the purists love their untouched Rolex more. Faith is nothing more than a belief if left untested. __________________ Life is an adventure or nothing at all.

30 March 2011, 06:34 PM	#33
swatty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,415	Welcome to TRF, Please post pics when you have had it done

30 March 2011, 06:47 PM	#36
wokafu "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: SM300+14060M Posts: 2,012	hmm..interesting...i wonder how would it look like...have you done it yet?

30 March 2011, 10:46 PM	#39
Victis "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Vancouver Watch: 16600 Posts: 29	Kayne West is a gay fish.

31 March 2011, 01:05 AM	#42
KirkWilfred "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: West Hartford, CT Watch: 116710LN Posts: 1,224	Rolex abuse! __________________ “Time is an illusion.” – Albert Einstein

31 March 2011, 01:24 AM	#43
slcbbrown "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: steve Location: dallas area Watch: 50's TT t-bird Posts: 3,689	Good luck. I'm a believer that a tool watch should be designed to be tough for whatever job it's made for. Any coating over stainless is going to have some kind of adherence problem. Which coating has the best history? I hear great things about DLC and less good things about PVD. How much abuse can PVD handle? Keep in mind that claims of hardness of coating are swell, but a hard coating can still fall off. My understanding is that PVD is just another plating-type system, and the black is just stuck on the stainless. DLC is supposedly different but wildly expensive. Again, DLC may only be "stuck" on the watch. The only coating that I know of that is different is galvanizing, which alloys zinc with the iron in steel. This creates an alloy bond. However, galvanizing is ugly and purely for industrial finishes. Also, most stainless steels won't galvanize. Good luck, with your watch.

31 March 2011, 01:32 AM	#46
garGARgar "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Gary Location: New York, NY Watch: 16610LV Posts: 711	I don't know if I'd ever do it to one of my watches, however, I do kind of like the stealthy look. I would definitely wear one. It's your watch, and it's completely up to you what you want to do with it. __________________ 16610LV 126334 116710LN

31 March 2011, 01:42 AM	#47
Newportkrieger Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: Newport Beach, CA Watch: GMT Master Pepsi Posts: 1,243	Looking at the OP's profile... non existant, the posts... this is the first one, the join date....3/28/11.....hmmmmmm troll??

31 March 2011, 03:19 AM	#49
RedwinGV "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: Northville, MI,US Watch: Smstr 600m BigBlue Posts: 412	welcome to the board. The look is unique and different. To those that are in pain seeing it, then why is it ok to brush the PCL's on a bracelet (yeah I know, they can be polished later.) When someone does that, thumbs up show all over the place. I say, if you like it, go for it. You're the one wearing it. I like the current look, but I wonder how many would be on board with the black look? Gets me thinking anyway. __________________ RedwinGV

31 March 2011, 03:32 AM	#50
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	Welcome to the forum and if you do decide to modify your watch please remember to post some pictures for all of us to see!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

31 March 2011, 08:55 AM	#54
favonian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: warlock Location: . Posts: 74	Eric Clapton PVD'd his GMTIIc and Newman Daytona! Got the pics in a japanese mag.

1 April 2011, 01:07 AM	#59
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,018	Attn: Jason71.......I am playing "Paint it Black" by The Rolling Stones...very loud....in your honor....your watch looks good! bah humbug......I see a red watch & I want it painted black __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

1 April 2011, 01:14 AM	#60
Route 66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Steve Location: Burbank, CA Watch: 214270 Mark II Posts: 4,121	Welcome to TRF! I think you should do what pleases you and not worry about what the cynics here think. As Abraham Lincoln said: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." I think the same should be said for pleasing people.

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