Jim Tressel resigns as Ohio State coach

[kareemthedream33]

He wasn't protecting his players, he was protecting himself. Who's been his 3 biggest stars? Clarett, Troy Smith, and Pryor...all three busted for improper benefits. That's not a coincidence.
Also, I have a few recently graduated friends and you have no idea what they would do to have their college loans wiped out. Post-graduation debt is a major problem in America. These kids get approximately 200K (maybe more depending on school) worth of scholarships. All this to play a game they love. To say they receive nothing for playing is a complete joke.

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by mtrunner

I completely agree with that assessment. Things don't sound good for him on the college level especially if he was indeed receiving these car benefits. He is already suspended 5 games and my guess when this is all said and done he won't have any college eligibility left.

I have heard there is a a possibility an NFL team may pick up Pryor as a WR not a QB.

I know that if I were the incoming coach to OSU he would not play. I wouldn't waste time with him for the last half of the season. I would be grooming my next QB. But, they should be 5-0, 4-1 at the least and it will be hard for the next coach to not play him, just saying that I wouldn't.

[GothamG8or]

Originally Posted by Mac-Apple

The Coach is trying to protect his players which is why he didn't come forward. Bruce Pearl had problems, Pete Carrol ,Urban Meyer all examples of Coaches who have tried to protect there players just as any family member would try, and do.. What Tress did is wrong but he is a TRUE Mans Man ,and didn't rat on his players.

These kids are getting robbed by these major Universities. Ohio State makes in excess of 100 million a year in Revenue on Football , and a player has to struggle to get a pizza. Give the kids something , they spit blood for the program ,and 60% do not graduate. I have met quite a few players ,and some of them are dumber than a bag of hair ,and football is there only skill. I am not saying paying them a ton of money ,Im saying give them something.

I say kick every player off the team who did wrong ,and move on. How about 1 ,and done? If you mess up you are off the team scholarship revoked , hit the road, Stop smacking there hands ,and saying don't do it again, maybe then these kids will get it.

I'm not following you completely here. In the 1st paragraph you concede what he did was wrong.... & then also say he's a true man's man and didn't rat on his players. Then late in the post you say kick every kid off the team who did wrong.. 1 & done. I don't see how you reconcile those? Listen, I know college football & college sports are a mess w/ some serious moral dilemnas. And I can tell you like Tress & have met him before. I've heard he's a heckuva guy in person... Jack Nicklaus is singing his praises today.

I tend to agree w/ mtrunner... these kids are getting paid in a great opportunity. Are the colleges making a lot off these kids? Yes, but they have the opportunity to make something off the college too. Also, the big money generating sports like football & basketball help fund the myriad of non-revenue sports such as cross country, swimming, soccer etc... so the $ made allow other kids to be given a similar opportunity at an education that may not have existed w/o the revenue producing sports.

Not every kids starts out w/ the same benefit of maturity, family background, etc.. but they are given the same opportunity in school.

[mtrunner]

Originally Posted by Mac-Apple

You may not have struggled , but track ,and field is not the money generator Football is. I would say most players on a football team are from the inner city ,and there parents have little to nothing . The inner city kids get on campus ,and want to be cool , but have nothing since MoM and PoP cant help them out. The kids from the inner city are stars on the football team in there city ,and the minute they get to Campus they are now stars in College football. The inner city kids ,also have different upbringings than the kids in better school districts. A friend of mine plays for the Bengals ,and I know the kind of things he got when he played for a very prominent College team down south. This kid had nothing ,and when he got to college he got quite the CAR LOAD!!!!

I completely understand many of these athletes come from inner cities and have nothing but they are being given the opportunity to go to college for FREE. This is a huge gift. School is their way out of their bad situation. Their athletic ability affords them the opportunity to do something and to make something of themselves. Why should they be paid because they come from nothing? Colleges should not have to pay these athletes as well just because they come from nothing.

[Mac-Apple]

Originally Posted by GothamG8or

I'm not following you completely here. In the 1st paragraph you concede what he did was wrong.... & then also say he's a true man's man and didn't rat on his players. Then late in the post you say kick every kid off the team who did wrong.. 1 & done. I don't see how you reconcile those? Listen, I know college football & college sports are a mess w/ some serious moral dilemnas. And I can tell you like Tress & have met him before. I've heard he's a heckuva guy in person... Jack Nicklaus is singing his praises today.

I tend to agree w/ mtrunner... these kids are getting paid in a great opportunity. Are the colleges making a lot off these kids? Yes, but they have the opportunity to make something off the college too. Also, the big money generating sports like football & basketball help fund the myriad of non-revenue sports such as cross country, swimming, soccer etc... so the $ made allow other kids to be given a similar opportunity at an education that may not have existed w/o the revenue producing sports.

Not every kids starts out w/ the same benefit of maturity, family background, etc.. but they are given the same opportunity in school.

No doubt about it what Tress did was wrong, but I can appreciate loyalty toward his team in not ratting on them . Im sure it was for his benefit ,and the teams benefit. No one wants a black eye on there program, as for the 1 and done comment if I were the AD I would kick all those involved off the team. We give these kids too many chances , everyone wants one more chance when they mess up. I don't believe in second chances.. The players are told right when they come onto campus what is expected of them ,and what is considered a violation. There is no excuse for these kids not knowing right from wrong. I am a Buckeye fan ,and this pisses me off to no end at how dumb these kids are.

[Mac-Apple]

Originally Posted by mtrunner

I completely understand many of these athletes come from inner cities and have nothing but they are being given the opportunity to go to college for FREE. This is a huge gift. School is their way out of their bad situation. Their athletic ability affords them the opportunity to do something and to make something of themselves. Why should they be paid because they come from nothing? Colleges should not have to pay these athletes as well just because they come from nothing.

You and I both know its a gift , but try and tell that to an 18 year old kid who thinks they know everything. They should be given something for making these Universities money, not loads but a a small amt for making there program what it is, only problem I fear is if they do give them money where does it stop?

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by Mac-Apple

You and I both know its a gift , but try and tell that to an 18 year old kid who thinks they know everything. They should be given something for making these Universities money, not loads but a a small amt for making there program what it is, only problem I fear is if they do give them money where does it stop?

Well, they get free room and board, books and tuition. The honors students at the Univ that my daughter attends gets $250 per month or so. Would that be enough spending money for them besides? Maybe so. I don't have a problem with them getting a small amount of running around money but it doesn't have to be a lot for them to get by. And it doesn't have to be for 12 months. Maybe just the months during school.

[Kapture1]

Originally Posted by snowbird

He had always seemed like a guy with integrity so sorry it has come to this.

I like the guy as a coach,, a good coach mean, but if he was a man of integrity, he would have benched those 5 starters for the bowl game instead of letting them play.

[GothamG8or]

Originally Posted by Mac-Apple

No doubt about it what Tress did was wrong, but I can appreciate loyalty toward his team in not ratting on them . Im sure it was for his benefit ,and the teams benefit. No one wants a black eye on there program, as for the 1 and done comment if I were the AD I would kick all those involved off the team. We give these kids too many chances , everyone wants one more chance when they mess up. I don't believe in second chances.. The players are told right when they come onto campus what is expected of them ,and what is considered a violation. There is no excuse for these kids not knowing right from wrong. I am a Buckeye fan ,and this pisses me off to no end at how dumb these kids are.

I hear ya. When Urban Meyer 1st got to UF, he was a pretty zero (or at least low) tolerance coach. 1 kid he kicked off the team was troubled... meant well, but very undisciplined & Urban kicked him off the team. That kid later killed himself. At that point it seems like Urban tried to be a father to every kid, but trying to give them more and more chances... almost over compensating. The result was that he seemed to get too lenient... it's a fine line to walk.

[fusionstorm]

A "true man's man" would have at least made the kids show some accountability by having them by pay restitution and scale back their "bling" activities. Pryor was well known around campus and Columbus for driving a different, late model car every few months, eating at expensive restaurants and running up big bar bills at clubs and lounges. It was patently obvious that he was living well beyond the means of a scholarship student, even if he'd saved every penny from lucrative "summer internships" that top stars get......

[ducatidoc]

That is the norm for all of the biggest college football stars, and goes at least as far back as my days at Pitt in the Dorsett era.