Patek Phillipe Nautilus..

[Aivas47a]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Would you compare a Porsche 911GT3 vs a RR Drophead Coupe? Both get you from A to B but the 911 is faster, "better" value, and more produced. I'd get the Drophead btw.

Nautilus/Submariner could also be compared to Aston Martin/ Corvette. Lighter weight doesn't mean lower quality.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by Aivas47a

Nautilus/Submariner could also be compared to Aston Martin/ Corvette. Lighter weight doesn't mean lower quality.

Exactly!

[Newrolexbuyer]

Wow not much PP love here...I think the 5726 is a real beauty and perfect for a guy like me who wears dress shirts loafers and jeans. The complications in PP are really amazing, i think that's really what you're paying for in the watch. Also a total dress watch and maybe not similar, but the PP 5026G is really just incredible, I'm buying both of these this year :) im trying to figure out now which one for my birthday and which for christmas?

[Newrolexbuyer]

Sorry that's the PP 5205 G that I was referring to...

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by Newrolexbuyer

Wow not much PP love here...I think the 5726 is a real beauty and perfect for a guy like me who wears dress shirts loafers and jeans. The complications in PP are really amazing, i think that's really what you're paying for in the watch. Also a total dress watch and maybe not similar, but the PP 5026G is really just incredible, I'm buying both of these this year :) im trying to figure out now which one for my birthday and which for christmas?

Great news, I love the watch too.. 31K for a SS watch is mad in my mind, I appreciate the craftsmanship which goes into them, but SS is just not good enough!

[tuonor]

Originally Posted by Newrolexbuyer

Wow not much PP love here...I think the 5726 is a real beauty and perfect for a guy like me who wears dress shirts loafers and jeans.

+1. Big fan of the 5726. Just wish I could find one to try on vs. the 5712.

With regard to the SS vs. precious metals, I'm in the SS camp. Wears (alot) better and why should adding 1-2 oz of gold suddenly make the cost of a $40k watch more reasonable?

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by tuonor

+1. Big fan of the 5726. Just wish I could find one to try on vs. the 5712.

With regard to the SS vs. precious metals, I'm in the SS camp. Wears (alot) better and why should adding 1-2 oz of gold suddenly make the cost of a $40k watch more reasonable?

40K is still not reasonable for gold, but it certainly makes the piece more luxurious..

[dysondiver]

i dream of a 5107 or 5127 on a bracelet ,,, but then im a simple man whos easily pleased.

[Rolex Junky]

Think the Nautilus is expensive? Checkout this SS Patek valued at USD 475k.

http://www.patek.com/html/en/ref_5950.html

[Newrolexbuyer]

Originally Posted by Rolex Junky

Think the Nautilus is expensive? Checkout this SS Patek valued at USD 475k.

http://www.patek.com/html/en/ref_5950.html

Haha yea i saw one of the super complications with platinum case and skeleton movement for 615k...that's a whole other level for me....im young and working hard, so i think that the 5726a really isn't that unreasonable priced because The resale value is so high. Compare that to a car these days and it's crazy. I saw a TRF member with a 5726a with Tiffany and Co. Stamp on the dial for sale in the classifieds and now I'm really considering pulling the trigger on that deal haha when does it stop?

[dysondiver]

Originally Posted by Rolex Junky

Think the Nautilus is expensive? Checkout this SS Patek valued at USD 475k.

http://www.patek.com/html/en/ref_5950.html

and you have to wind it by hand too , wether its value is 475k or thats what they want for it is two different things though .

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by Rolex Junky

Think the Nautilus is expensive? Checkout this SS Patek valued at USD 475k.

http://www.patek.com/html/en/ref_5950.html

I just pasted out

[Rolex Junky]

Originally Posted by dysondiver

and you have to wind it by hand too , wether its value is 475k or thats what they want for it is two different things though .

Wrong choice of words.

[dysondiver]

Originally Posted by Rolex Junky

Wrong choice of words.

i think id wear a swatch and buy a house.

[Rolex Junky]

Originally Posted by dysondiver

i think id wear a swatch and buy a house.

I'd also rather buy the house but wear a rolex

[Newrolexbuyer]

Haha but in the US buying a house is probably a bigger loser in some regions. I doubt anyone considering a 400k watch is too concerned about the price...

[AlbyCrowned]

Why do Patek watches cost so much? Because of its name.. Nothing more..
The 5980 Nautilus chrono is nothing special, just appearance!
The movement is in-house, but not a great movement.. Just a great price!! Can we call that a column-wheel??

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by AlbyCrowned

Why do Patek watches cost so much? Because of its name.. Nothing more..
The 5980 Nautilus chrono is nothing special, just appearance!
The movement is in-house, but not a great movement.. Just a great price!! Can we call that a column-wheel??

I'm sorry but what's the basis for your analysis of the calibre CH28-520C movement? I'm curious about your vitriolic position on the brand.

[Shade]

The Nautilus is the watch I will get to, eventually. :)

[AlbyCrowned]

Originally Posted by kilyung

I'm sorry but what's the basis for your analysis of the calibre CH28-520C movement? I'm curious about your vitriolic position on the brand.

It's a simplified movement, it has not continuous seconds, it has the column-wheel, but without columns!! Moreover it has the vertical graph!

However I've nothing against Patek Philippe, just wanna remember that all that glitters ain't gold! :)

There are good watches in Patek Philippe's catalog, but they cost double the price of watches from other brands that value double PP! Why? Because it's PP we are speaking about!..

[keenufan]

Originally Posted by Newrolexbuyer

Sorry that's the PP 5205 G that I was referring to...

You mean this one?

[lorsban]

Originally Posted by Dingoo93

Hi all

I was at the AD yesterday and tryed on one of these watches.. It retails in UK for £31,360.00


I don't think that this watch appears to be worth that amount of money...

-Stainless Steel Case and Bracelet
-Bracelet feels soooo tacky


Please help me out?!! Why is this watch so expensive? I understand all of the craftsmanship which has gone into it, but £31K? hmmmmm....



Thanks folks!
Dino

I'm thinking the same thing. It's damn near ridiculous for a stainless steel watch to cost that much considering there are AP's/Vacheron/Jaeger/etc...around that have more or less the same functionality and market for 1/3 the price.

For dress watches it's the same thing. Look at the Calatrava or any of their dress models. For a watch that just tells time and gives you the date, it's sure expensive. Granted it's of some precious metal but AP/Vacheron/Jaeger/Blancpain/Piaget/GO etc...each have dress watches of similar specs that cost much much less. So, what is it about Patek?

But, same thing can be said for Rolexes if you're an Omega/Breitling fan. Omega and Breitling also have COSC in-house movements and similar features to Rolex but Rolex still sells for at least double.

[capote]

Originally Posted by lorsban

I'm thinking the same thing. It's damn near ridiculous for a stainless steel watch to cost that much considering there are AP's/Vacheron/Jaeger/etc...around that have more or less the same functionality and market for 1/3 the price.

For dress watches it's the same thing. Look at the Calatrava or any of their dress models. For a watch that just tells time and gives you the date, it's sure expensive. Granted it's of some precious metal but AP/Vacheron/Jaeger/Blancpain/Piaget/GO etc...each have dress watches of similar specs that cost much much less. So, what is it about Patek?

But, same thing can be said for Rolexes if you're an Omega/Breitling fan. Omega and Breitling also have COSC in-house movements and similar features to Rolex but Rolex still sells for at least double.

Well you can't really use the functionality argument. A cheap digital watch will also tell you the time (with higher accuracy) and date. Its all about desirability. If I had the money I would easily get a Nautilus or Aquanaut in stainless steel, because I really like the look and the craftmanship.

[keenufan]

What I can say is that Patek is Patek after wearing my SS Patek for several days.

[Submarino]

Originally Posted by keenufan

What I can say is that Patek is Patek after wearing my SS Patek for several days.

Could've not been said better!!!

Patek is a watch for true 'haute horlogerie connoisseurs' regardless of their price which IMHO it's your money's worth.

[AlbyCrowned]

Originally Posted by Submarino

Could've not been said better!!!

Patek is a watch for true 'haute horlogerie connoisseurs'regardless of their price which IMHO it's your money's worth.

I don't agree with you my friend! There are lots of watches better than PPs!

But I agree with the fact that a PP is easier to understand than, I don't know.. De Bethune, Journe, Greubel&Forsey, Voutilainen, Becsei, Dufour, Urwerk, Haldimann, Prescher and so on!..

[__ma]

They make some seriously beautiful stuff but are also seriously overpriced!

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by __ma

They make some seriously beautiful stuff but are also seriously overpriced!

Correct!

[WatchTimes]

The Nautilus chrono and moon phase are the ultimate sports watches...
The only thing that stops me from buying a Nautilus is unfortunately
they one I like is the only one who WR rating is limited to 60 meters
and I don't think it would be smart to swim with a watch with that wr rating.
Its limited to 60 m due to the pusher for the moon phase.

Just about as nice of a watch you can buy and swim (except moon phase as said earlier) with etc without worrying...

The only other watch I can think of in the price range you can wear swimming without worry would be a Rolex Day Date....

The Patek 5960 is my grail watch but the Nautilus is pretty close and something Id wear much more...

[Rolexavidfan]

As a sports watch for the look and the case design. Adding the complication like chrono, power reserve or annual calendar on the Nautilus range gave the said model more versatility and options for Nautilus fans.

IMHO, I think of the different complications, the AC appears to fit more rightly on the Calatrava model. Adding the precious metal available to it, I think the 5205G with the calendar aperture "edges" out of the 5726 in my book.