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Old 26 September 2011, 01:05 AM   #31
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Double sweet. Nice to see a 5 with proper wheels!
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Old 26 September 2011, 03:43 AM   #35
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Double sweet. Nice to see a 5 with proper wheels!
I secretly wish they brought back the Style 5 OEM rims across the range, nothing says BMW more than spider-mags.
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i don t think the car can match to her beauty!

looks perfect ,congrats
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Old 26 September 2011, 06:00 AM   #43
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STAGE 1 PERFORMANCE ENGINE SOFTWARE/BOOST UPGRADE (550I ONLY)
The legendary 5 Series has been reincarnated with the F10 chassis and the N63 4.4L V8 turbo motor. The beauty of the turbo motor is its ability to be tuned to make impressive gains just by upgrading the engine software and the N63 motor is no different.

The results of Dinan’s tuning are nothing short of breathtaking, with the added boost and related re-calibration producing a maximum output of 495 horsepower at 5000 rpm and 573 lb-ft torque at 3500 rpm.

The Dinan Performance Engine Software safely increases turbo-boost pressure from the stock 9.8 to 14.0 psi, along with properly retuned fuel mixtures, ignition timing and full map rescaling. In fact, over 2000 lines of code have been addressed, producing substantial increases in power output while maintaining the civility and reliability expected of a Dinan performance product.

With Dinan’s software, your 550i will be capable of achieving its natural top speed as the governor has been removed. And as always, Dinan matches the new car warranty coverage for up to 4 years or 50,000 miles, including the possibility of consequential damages. No one offers better performance or backs it up with such comprehensive warranty coverage.

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I wonder if she would notice : ):)

I might get the Dinan Stage 1 tune after the warranty is up just for kicks.
Coming from someone that owns forced induction cars I would not mess with that. There is no way to up the boost and keep the same reliability. Not possible. If BMW could safely and reliably get those numbers with a simple tune they would offer it from the factory like that. I would be careful messing with the ecu too. Sounds kinda like a rip off for what you get. I havent paid more than $500 for full dyno tunes and total ecu remaps. Sounds like that is a Genaric box tune. I'm not familiar so I could be totally wrong. Beautiful car btw. Nice choice with the manual. I love driving manuals unless it's stop and go traffic.
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Old 26 September 2011, 11:47 AM   #45
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Coming from someone that owns forced induction cars I would not mess with that. There is no way to up the boost and keep the same reliability. Not possible. If BMW could safely and reliably get those numbers with a simple tune they would offer it from the factory like that. I would be careful messing with the ecu too. Sounds kinda like a rip off for what you get. I havent paid more than $500 for full dyno tunes and total ecu remaps. Sounds like that is a Genaric box tune. I'm not familiar so I could be totally wrong. Beautiful car btw. Nice choice with the manual. I love driving manuals unless it's stop and go traffic.
They do offer it from the factory like that, its called the M5 :) The N63 is just a detuned version of the M5 motor this time around.
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Old 26 September 2011, 11:56 AM   #46
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STAGE 1 PERFORMANCE ENGINE SOFTWARE/BOOST UPGRADE (550I ONLY)
The legendary 5 Series has been reincarnated with the F10 chassis and the N63 4.4L V8 turbo motor. The beauty of the turbo motor is its ability to be tuned to make impressive gains just by upgrading the engine software and the N63 motor is no different.

The results of Dinan’s tuning are nothing short of breathtaking, with the added boost and related re-calibration producing a maximum output of 495 horsepower at 5000 rpm and 573 lb-ft torque at 3500 rpm.

The Dinan Performance Engine Software safely increases turbo-boost pressure from the stock 9.8 to 14.0 psi, along with properly retuned fuel mixtures, ignition timing and full map rescaling. In fact, over 2000 lines of code have been addressed, producing substantial increases in power output while maintaining the civility and reliability expected of a Dinan performance product.

With Dinan’s software, your 550i will be capable of achieving its natural top speed as the governor has been removed. And as always, Dinan matches the new car warranty coverage for up to 4 years or 50,000 miles, including the possibility of consequential damages. No one offers better performance or backs it up with such comprehensive warranty coverage.

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I wonder if she would notice : ):)

I might get the Dinan Stage 1 tune after the warranty is up just for kicks.
Mate the BEST upgrade money can buy for your 6-Speed BMW is this, and it only costs $26:

http://www.zeckhausen.com/BMW/F10.htm

http://www.zeckhausen.com/cdv.htm

I used to drive my 330ci manual without the CDV when I got it, and it was obvious that the clutch was lagging as I shifted, the 1st-2nd shift is where its at its worst, you shift quickly and then after releasing the clutch it slowly settles, meaning by the time it has fully engaged, either the revs have dropped too far and it jerks, or if you keep your foot down and try to rev match, you'll often get it wrong as you don't know when (not where) the clutch is going to bite.

You take the CDV off and the shifting is silky smooth, and above all, predictable, you know that the clutch is exactly where your left foor is at any given time, not 1-2 seconds of travel behind it.

Any BMW with a manual box made after '98 needs this to make the car what it should be, whether its a 1-series, a 3-series or a 5-series, they all have to have it done.
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They do offer it from the factory like that, its called the M5 :) The N63 is just a detuned version of the M5 motor this time around.
I didnt know that they ditched the V10 for 2012. Cool!!
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I didnt know that they ditched the V10 for 2012. Cool!!
As epic as the V10 engine was, I went on a couple of rallys and mountain runs with them in the pack, this guy from the Gold Coast had a silver M5 station wagon that looked absolutely stunning, and absolutely flogged the piss out of it, you have no idea how bad-ass it is to see a family station wagon going sideways down a mountain pass in a cloud of smoke...

I did about 28L/100km, he did about 140L/100km, two full tanks of gas on the run. The new one has 30% better fuel economy, more so when its being flogged, and I think that's the biggest improvement over the old one by far.

Sad reality of the times, you can't drink THAT much and still have fun.
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Thanks for the tip on the clutch valve. Funny - after 2 days of driving this thing I was wondering about the clutch engagement.

Regarding the tune and increasing boost. I too have grown up with many modified boosted cars, all of which did not come from the factory designed for boost from the start. My daily driver is a MB CLK55 which comes from the factory with 11.0-1 c/r which I've added a blower with 10psi of boost. If properly done (intercooler, proper tune) it can be done with great results. My understanding is the F10 550i twin turbo is significantly detuned. For 4.4 liters and only 400 hp / 450 ft-lbs with TT's you are leaving much on the table.

I will probably not get the tune until year 3 or 4 or ownership after the new wears off. For now it's the wife's daily driver and family truckster. Plenty for her.
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Thanks for the tip on the clutch valve. Funny - after 2 days of driving this thing I was wondering about the clutch engagement.

Regarding the tune and increasing boost. I too have grown up with many modified boosted cars, all of which did not come from the factory designed for boost from the start. My daily driver is a MB CLK55 which comes from the factory with 11.0-1 c/r which I've added a blower with 10psi of boost. If properly done (intercooler, proper tune) it can be done with great results. My understanding is the F10 550i twin turbo is significantly detuned. For 4.4 liters and only 400 hp / 450 ft-lbs with TT's you are leaving much on the table.

I will probably not get the tune until year 3 or 4 or ownership after the new wears off. For now it's the wife's daily driver and family truckster. Plenty for her.
Great info. Again beautiful car. I've never paid much attention to BMWs but I really like it. The original engine in my Vette went out after 11k supercharged miles. That was fine with me because I got to build an engine that can take 1000 hp now and can't wait for a TT setup this winter. It but a nice dent in the wallet but was worth it to me. Thats why GM went with a fully forged motor for the ZR1 and changed the compression. I would imagine thee is something other than just the tune that's different in the BMW engines. Are there forged parts in the M5 engine? I would guess the compression ratio would be different with the added boost but like I said I don't know BMW so I'm really trying to learn.
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Old 27 September 2011, 07:26 AM   #53
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Congrats on the BMW - disappointed to hear about the C63 AMG - have not driven one but my wife was expressing interest in one..... Perhaps the E63 AMG is a better option....
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We were not impressed with the C63. Def test drive it, keeping this in mind:
* seats are literally race seats! Bigger people will not fit. Regular people will not be comfortable after 20-30 mins. My legs/backside was numb after 1 hour. I'm 200 lbs/6' tall.
* Noise - very loud look at me exhaust. Think mustang with flowmaster exhaust, no cats. Sounds like my highschool car.
* eats tires..... due to torque and rear alignment..... after 27k miles of my wife daily driving.... 4 sets of tires!!!!!!!! yikes.
* build quality - rear sunshade vibrates at speed.... sunvisor coming loose....... front headlight washer door coming loose...... radio reception even with prem stero poor reception......
* also keep in mind there is a class action law suit against MB for this motor series starting with the 2007 introduction...... cam/lifter material selection causing prem wear and engine failure........ it's not super common.... but I would pay attn to how this shakes out before buying a mb 6.3 anything.

The good: oh the engine torque and exhaust note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! intoxicating and fun.

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Gunter - that vettes sounds wicked! Had an 01 zo6 or a while. fun car.

The trick to boost is to have a proper tune and support system (fuel/ignition/cooling).... and then pay attn to the signs of detonation. If you stay out of deto you can run trouble free.

The factory knock sensor, plus IAT, plus ECT sensors do a pretty good job at pulling timing if things get out of whack..... but I also believe a wideband O2 sensor read-out on the dash (or check once in a while)... plus your ear and seat-o-pants meter are you're best allies.

If the car seems sluggish or makes funny sounds or tin-can rattling sound under boost... get out of it.... and do some diagnostics. could be fuel issue.

9 times out of 10 it's the guy who ignores the sounds of trouble and holds down the go pedal who has deto and sig damage.

The other form of damage on a perfectly tuned car.... is just plain old TOO much power for the rods / block. The 5.0 liter mustang block from 88-92 has been put threw the ringer due to the sheer number of units that are HEAVILY modified through the years... it's limits are pretty well documented @ 450-500RWHP under boost. The block will split in half. Keep in mind this is an engine rated at 180rwhp from the factory and is then run for 100K miles...... before 10-18psi of non-intercooled boost is put threw it..... to make 450-500 rwhp!!!!!!!! and then flogged 1/4 mile a time with slicks. So there is alot of potential left on the table.

rambling over ;) :).... I love this stuff.
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Great info. Again beautiful car. I've never paid much attention to BMWs but I really like it. The original engine in my Vette went out after 11k supercharged miles. That was fine with me because I got to build an engine that can take 1000 hp now and can't wait for a TT setup this winter. It but a nice dent in the wallet but was worth it to me. Thats why GM went with a fully forged motor for the ZR1 and changed the compression. I would imagine thee is something other than just the tune that's different in the BMW engines. Are there forged parts in the M5 engine? I would guess the compression ratio would be different with the added boost but like I said I don't know BMW so I'm really trying to learn.
I guess its still a bit of an unknown due to being fairly new, but historically BMW motors have responded pretty well to FI, the original 1980s 6-cylinder motors were built with a 960hp racing varient from the factory and reached 1400hp in the hands of the Swedes, M3 6-cylinder motors have run 700hp+ reliably as daily drivers and 1300+ thanks to HPF and various other tuners.

The M54/N54 aluminium motors have never had any problems (other than the N54 high pressure fuel pump failing) producing numbers in the mid 400s reliably. Subframes on certain models are another story, but that was only the 3-series.
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Wife does not miss the C63 one bit! She is having to get used to shifting again though :) TG she is open minded about the manual shift.
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Gunter - that vettes sounds wicked! Had an 01 zo6 or a while. fun car.

The trick to boost is to have a proper tune and support system (fuel/ignition/cooling).... and then pay attn to the signs of detonation. If you stay out of deto you can run trouble free.

The factory knock sensor, plus IAT, plus ECT sensors do a pretty good job at pulling timing if things get out of whack..... but I also believe a wideband O2 sensor read-out on the dash (or check once in a while)... plus your ear and seat-o-pants meter are you're best allies.

If the car seems sluggish or makes funny sounds or tin-can rattling sound under boost... get out of it.... and do some diagnostics. could be fuel issue.

9 times out of 10 it's the guy who ignores the sounds of trouble and holds down the go pedal who has deto and sig damage.

The other form of damage on a perfectly tuned car.... is just plain old TOO much power for the rods / block. The 5.0 liter mustang block from 88-92 has been put threw the ringer due to the sheer number of units that are HEAVILY modified through the years... it's limits are pretty well documented @ 450-500RWHP under boost. The block will split in half. Keep in mind this is an engine rated at 180rwhp from the factory and is then run for 100K miles...... before 10-18psi of non-intercooled boost is put threw it..... to make 450-500 rwhp!!!!!!!! and then flogged 1/4 mile a time with slicks. So there is alot of potential left on the table.

rambling over ;) :).... I love this stuff.
Thanks for the post. I was going hard when my engine gave out. I use East Coast Supercharging which is the best corvette shop on the East coat and one of the top 2 or 3 in the country. I had 700+ with a stock motor a pretty harsh tune but I was running meth for some insurance. It was just a matter of time. ECS has around 25 cars now with 100k+ on the motor with their Supercharger systems. My new motor is bullet proof. Maybe tomorrow I'll throw up some YouTube videos of the car at the track. With Drag radials I can run 10s all day. Like I said earlier I can't wait for turbos. I'm going for around 900 rwhp. I have a widebody kit at my painters right now and should get it on this weekend. I already have the new wheels and tires mounted and waiting to put them on. Sorry for the hijack. I appreciate the comments.
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