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Old 9 March 2012, 01:39 AM   #31
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"Your numbers must be off though. Water boils at 212. You're NOT in the sauna at 180-220, you'd be dead."

hahaha...you're right!
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Old 9 March 2012, 01:41 AM   #32
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I doubt there are security cameras in the locker room, for obvious legal reasons.
i meant cameras throughout the club, and everyone is buzzed in. the locker area is actually a very public open area, no closed doors. but, yeah, i don't feel comfortable leaving my watch anywhere other than my wrist, even with insurance!

thanks, everyone, your answers have been very helpful.
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Old 9 March 2012, 01:51 AM   #33
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"Your numbers must be off though. Water boils at 212. You're NOT in the sauna at 180-220, you'd be dead."

hahaha...you're right!
That is only 105°C, a traditional Finnish or Swedish sauna is often hotter than that. There is a big difference between tolerating hot air and being immersed in water of the same temperature. (The same is of course true for cold, you can spend days out skiing in freezing temperatures, but wouldn't last very long in water of the same temperature.)

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Under many circumstances, temperatures approaching and exceeding 100 °C (212 °F) would be completely intolerable. Saunas overcome this problem by controlling the humidity. The hottest Finnish saunas have relatively low humidity levels in which steam is generated by pouring water on the hot stones. This allows air temperatures that could boil water to be tolerated and even enjoyed for longer periods of time. Steam baths, such as the hammam, where the humidity approaches 100%, will be set to a much lower temperature of around 40 °C (104 °F) to compensate. The "wet heat" would cause scalding if the temperature were set much higher.

In a typical Finnish sauna, the temperature of the air, the room and the benches is above the dew point even when water is thrown on the hot stones and vaporized. Thus, they remain dry. In contrast, the sauna bathers are at about 38 C, which is below the dew point, so that water is condensed on the bathers' skin. This process releases heat and makes the steam feel hot.
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Old 9 March 2012, 06:27 AM   #34
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Hi from Finland.
Maybe know something about sauna and Rolex. In Finland many people have sauna at their home (like i do) and I had my first Rolex in 1989 and had those since that.
At my house, I usually not wear my watch, unless I want to wash it at the same time, but always when I am travelling and/or use public sauna, I always wear my watch, because I do not want to leave it to locker room.
I usually also visit public sauna during the winter time and also do some ice-swimming.
Sauna in Finland is usually about 80-100C hot and when go to ice-swimming, the water is about 1-(5C, when the spring start to come..).
So, first You go to sauna, then to water and after that, You sit outside for a while (in winter the temperature can be -5 to -25C. And You can do that several times..


(During the summer, same thing, except the weather can be between 25-40C and the water about 20-25C.)

I never have had any problem with my Rolex, last time RSC said, that there is no problem to take Rolex to sauna, just service it every 5-7 years.

Swimming anyone?



You might find this interesting (always many tourists there):

http://www.rauhaniemi.net/index.php?sivu=eng

http://www.rauhaniemi.net/index.php?sivu=valokuvia
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Old 9 March 2012, 06:32 AM   #35
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my sauna actually does have excellent security, and is upscale. the members include jesse jackson, jr., many local politicians, business men, restauranteurs, etc. there are many members who wear rolexes, some keep them in their lockers, others wear them in the sauna. which is why i ask for the opinion of more experienced rolex owners, as this is my first.
thanks for your input.
It's illegal to have security cameras in a locker room where men walk around in the nude, therefore making it an unsafe place to leave it. I'd leave it on my wrist if I were you. Jesse can give two shit$ whether your watch gets stolen or not, as long as it isn't his, lol.
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Old 9 March 2012, 06:36 AM   #36
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Old 9 March 2012, 08:15 AM   #37
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I´ve been wearing my Datejust and Submariner regularly in the Sauna since 1988 without problem.
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Old 9 March 2012, 08:29 AM   #38
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My Sub went 12 years of being worn daily, absolutely everywhere, inc working out, manual labour, swimming, sauna, Jacuzi etc etc without a service. I never had issues.
Despite the long period without work it's first service wasn't too expensive (NZ$1,300). Like most folk are saying here it can take much of what you can. And if it's on your wrist you won't bugger it by dropping it on the changing room tile floor!!!!
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Old 9 March 2012, 08:31 AM   #39
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Hey Arizona is as hot as many sauna's and I've never had a problem
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Old 9 March 2012, 08:49 AM   #40
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I've read lots of posts about watches stolen out of club lockers. It doesn't matter how high end your club is, it still happens. IMHO the safest place for your watch is on your wrist. The reason I have insurance is to wear it and enjoy it!
That's fine but I'm a pretty serious golfer and hate playing with a watch on. I wear my wath and enjoy it every day but not on the course. I put it back on after my shower before the 19th hole. There are many nicer watches than mine left in there daily. I do not worry about a Sub. When I pic up my AP in a few months I might be more cautious with it but I doubt it. Sure it can get stolen just like my car can in the parking lot. I leave 2-3 sets of clubs up there all the time. I've never heard of even a ball missing from a members bag or anything missing from the locker room. Again it's insured so I'm not worrying.
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Old 9 March 2012, 08:54 AM   #41
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Old 9 March 2012, 09:02 AM   #42
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my sauna actually does have excellent security, and is upscale. the members include jesse jackson, jr., many local politicians, business men, restauranteurs, etc. there are many members who wear rolexes, some keep them in their lockers, others wear them in the sauna. which is why i ask for the opinion of more experienced rolex owners, as this is my first.
thanks for your input.
Politicians and upscale should not be used in the same sentance. Most are the biggest crooks going.
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Old 9 March 2012, 09:41 AM   #43
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I wear my explorer in the Sauna before... Dont have it anymore...
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Old 9 March 2012, 09:51 AM   #44
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Sub in sauna?

I was always told by sales reps and watchmakers to never wear any watch in the jacuzzi or sauna. I always figure, "better safe than sorry".
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Old 9 March 2012, 10:09 AM   #45
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If you can take so will your watch.
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Old 9 March 2012, 10:23 AM   #46
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I always figure, "better safe than sorry".
Yeah, that's what I say too. Locker rooms tend to have tile floors, some poor guy just found out they don't mix:



http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=222183
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Old 9 March 2012, 10:38 AM   #47
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The watch can take it but I don't think you'll be able to take it at 220 degrees
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Old 9 March 2012, 10:43 AM   #48
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I've worn my SubLV, GMTIIc, and SMP in the sauna for the past three years off and on and have had no problem.
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Old 9 March 2012, 10:48 AM   #49
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The watch can take it but I don't think you'll be able to take it at 220 degrees
As explained earlier, not an issue. Starting temperature for the world sauna championships started at 230:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Sauna_Championships
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Old 9 March 2012, 10:53 AM   #50
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As I've previously mentioned, before joining this forum and learning that it wasn't necessarily a good idea, I put my DJ into the dishwasher with the dishes more than once.
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Old 9 March 2012, 11:21 AM   #51
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That's fine but I'm a pretty serious golfer and hate playing with a watch on. I wear my wath and enjoy it every day but not on the course. I put it back on after my shower before the 19th hole. There are many nicer watches than mine left in there daily. I do not worry about a Sub. When I pic up my AP in a few months I might be more cautious with it but I doubt it. Sure it can get stolen just like my car can in the parking lot. I leave 2-3 sets of clubs up there all the time. I've never heard of even a ball missing from a members bag or anything missing from the locker room. Again it's insured so I'm not worrying.
I'd say Tiger and most of the other pros are serious golfers and they do pretty well wearing theirs on the lynx. I still say the safest place for your watch is on your wrist. Who wants the hassle of dealing with a stolen/broken watch. Good luck with your AP. I hope your car and 2-3 sets of clubs remain safe. BTW the next time your at the 19th, get yourself a steak sandwich and charge it to the Underhills
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Old 9 March 2012, 11:28 AM   #52
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According to Rolex expert John Brozek, he recommends avoiding wearing Rolex watches in hot tubs and saunas. I had my watch serviced by his company back in 2009 and I trust his opinion. If I am in a hot tub, I will simply keep my watch out of the water, I am not willing to take a chance on a gasket or seal failing due to the heat.
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Old 9 March 2012, 01:05 PM   #53
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I've been in the sauna quite a bit. There should be nothing to worry about.

Your numbers must be off though. Water boils at 212. You're NOT in the sauna at 180-220, you'd be dead.

That being said, there was an ad posted on TRF Not too long ago showing Rolex testing a watch by placing it IN boiling water and it was fine.


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Old 9 March 2012, 02:48 PM   #54
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great advice everyone, thank you.
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Old 9 March 2012, 03:03 PM   #55
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I believe you will be just fine. Wear and enjoy in the sauna or whatever you are doing
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Old 9 March 2012, 05:21 PM   #56
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You are way out of line.

Just like your spelling.
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Old 9 March 2012, 09:11 PM   #57
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You are way out of line.

Just like your spelling.

I don't think he's out of line with that statement, but I do agree the spelling could use some work And for the record, I err on the side of caution with gaskets + Saunas...will an occasional dip hurt? Probably not. But doing it frequently surely can't HELP the condition of these degradable pieces of rubber or Delrin.

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Old 9 April 2012, 06:36 AM   #58
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I go to saunas for more than 20 years, often.
On several occasions I used my Sea dweller, some other (less frequently) used my Pepsi or my Sub LV or other diving watches (Omega Planet Ocean, Tag aquagrafh, Longines Legend diver and others) and never had problems, nor did I fear, however, my Daytona, never entered a Swimming pool or in a sauna!!
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Old 9 April 2012, 06:46 AM   #59
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Obviously you need to spend more time in Swedish saunas.
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