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alanski · 4 October 2012, 12:20 AM

for me eitehr or you cant go wrong , as with all things hard to get patek short production numbers. restricted allocation and as soon as things get discontinued the prices will always rocket .

all of thes grand complications were made for only a few yrs sometimes less and allocation of them are hard and unless you have a good AD getting any small production numbers model will be hard .

the 5970 is a peach so is the 5270 which will be more or less much of the same i think in say 5-7 yrs time ,

i asked about the 5270 at my Ads a few months back he made a few calls , filled out the form for me etc wehre he is asked about my buying history and how long hes known me etc
and came back with a 13 month lead time as patek only release 3-5 units into the UK per yr ,

so whole world production ive been told is circa 70 or so pieces of the 5270 per annum say in production for 6-8 yrs you are looking at only 500 give or take pieces world wide , which is imho why patek is most coveted brand on the planet .

myopiccoog · 7 October 2012, 12:17 AM

So I went watch shopping. I got to see the 5970 g and r. Nice watches but a bit small on the wrist for me personally. If only buying for collection i would say yes but i wear every piece i own. The watch sits very high on the wrist especially compared to my 5980r. I also saw the 3970p. Awesome piece too. Not much smaller aesthetically to the 5970. Unfortunately I was unable to see the 5270g. It did not arrive in time. I won't make a decision until I see the watch. The good news is that prices are down. I was offered a 5970p at a really low price. I am told by many super high end watch collectors that they are selling because they feel like they should take profits of the last 4 years and move up. Also they feel like prices are way too high right now due to Patek's rapid increases over the last 4 years. We shall see. Stay tuned.

myopiccoog · 16 October 2012, 06:29 AM

I put a deposit on a 5270 today. I will check in out in person on the 24th. Hopefully I will like it! :) Stay tuned!

FeelingTheBlues · 16 October 2012, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by myopiccoog

I put a deposit on a 5270 today. I will check in out in person on the 24th. Hopefully I will like it! :) Stay tuned!

Congratulations in advance! I am convinced you will really enjoy it!

jnelson3097 · 16 October 2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by myopiccoog

I put a deposit on a 5270 today. I will check in out in person on the 24th. Hopefully I will like it! :) Stay tuned!

Congrats!

HL65 · 16 October 2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by myopiccoog

I put a deposit on a 5270 today. I will check in out in person on the 24th. Hopefully I will like it! :) Stay tuned!

Congrats in advance!!

topcat30093 · 16 October 2012, 06:42 PM

Look forward to reading your thoughts after seeing it on the 24th.

Demonoid · 19 March 2015, 03:50 PM

Back from the grave. How have this arguments hold up? And know with the new 2015 models?

unknown · 19 March 2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonoid

Back from the grave. How have this arguments hold up? And know with the new 2015 models?

I'm sure nothing changed
5170 and 5270 are nice

but first choice will always be 5070 and 5970

HL65 · 19 March 2015, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown

I'm sure nothing changed
5170 and 5270 are nice

but first choice will always be 5070 and 5970

X100

RolexJNJ · 19 March 2015, 10:40 PM

The 5970 is legendary! I went with the 5270 because I have a weakness for blue and I really liked how the watch wore at 41mm. And who knows, maybe the Leno dial will appreciate in value!!

el1125 · 19 March 2015, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by myopiccoog

I am starting to debate my next Patek purchase. I am dead set on either getting the 5970 or the new 5270. I like the 5970r aesthetically the most and the 5970p the second most but there is a big difference in price. I am debating going with the new 5270. Obviously it is only made in white at this time. I would love your overall thoughts and thoughts on short and long term collectibility of each piece. Thanks in advance!

I thought you already owned both?

HL65 · 20 March 2015, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by el1125

I thought you already owned both?

He does Elliot this thread is 3 years old as someone opened it back up.

lipjin · 20 March 2015, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by myopiccoog

I put a deposit on a 5270 today. I will check in out in person on the 24th. Hopefully I will like it! :) Stay tuned!

Congrats!!! Now for the long wait:)

HL65 · 20 March 2015, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lipjin

Congrats!!! Now for the long wait:)

3 years ago!

lipjin · 20 March 2015, 12:27 AM

Lol I read the thread in the mid

Still arguments hold:)

yjfang · 20 March 2015, 12:31 AM

What happens to the value of the the first 2 versions of the 5270 (no tacky markers, then the chin) now that there is fixed version 3?

fmc000 · 20 March 2015, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RolexJNJ

And who knows, maybe the Leno dial will appreciate in value!!

You just made my day!!

RolexJNJ · 20 March 2015, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fmc000

You just made my day!!

Thanks Fabio!

lapince · 20 March 2015, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myopiccoog

I am starting to debate my next Patek purchase. I am dead set on either getting the 5970 or the new 5270. I like the 5970r aesthetically the most and the 5970p the second most but there is a big difference in price. I am debating going with the new 5270. Obviously it is only made in white at this time. I would love your overall thoughts and thoughts on short and long term collectibility of each piece. Thanks in advance!

Whats too bad is that the new 5270's don't have anymore the black hours markers and hands, I thought that looked great, but the chin didn't and the dial is nicer without it, in any case both beautiful, my choice would be the 5270 but with blue dial, it's a stunner on pics, if they didn't have the blue I would probably say 5970P with black dial

lapince · 20 March 2015, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myopiccoog

I put a deposit on a 5270 today. I will check in out in person on the 24th. Hopefully I will like it! :) Stay tuned!

Which one is it? Old one or new one? And in what color? I don't understand why people say they only make it in white now as they show pics of the blue on their site so I suppose the blue in new version is also available

HL65 · 20 March 2015, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lapince

Which one is it? Old one or new one? And in what color? I don't understand why people say they only make it in white now as they show pics of the blue on their site so I suppose the blue in new version is also available

This thread is from Feb 2012 Arnaud and he got both a 5970J and a 5270G

paverman · 20 March 2015, 08:53 AM

These old resurrected threads get confusing.

conkers · 20 March 2015, 09:53 AM

I have bought and sold 187 watches since this thread started, and I still don't have the right answer!

lapince · 20 March 2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HL65

This thread is from Feb 2012 Arnaud and he got both a 5970J and a 5270G

Ok I feel stupid

Quote:

Originally Posted by paverman

These old resurrected threads get confusing.

Yes I agree, I fell for it

myopiccoog · 20 March 2015, 11:31 AM

Hahah! Nice re-bake! :)

el1125 · 20 March 2015, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HL65

He does Elliot this thread is 3 years old as someone opened it back up.

lol ok

jon_jon · 20 March 2015, 12:34 PM

Will Patek discontinue the Leno chin 5270s now that they have released the new version of the 5270G blue dial without the chin?

Demonoid · 20 March 2015, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jon_jon

Will Patek discontinue the Leno chin 5270s now that they have released the new version of the 5270G blue dial without the chin?

Yes..what you see on the Web site it's what is suposedly available.

Racerdj · 20 March 2015, 09:14 PM

I really like the update on the 5270.

16 October 2012, 06:42 PM	#37
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,460	Look forward to reading your thoughts after seeing it on the 24th. __________________

19 March 2015, 10:40 PM	#41
RolexJNJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: Chicago Posts: 5,036	The 5970 is legendary! I went with the 5270 because I have a weakness for blue and I really liked how the watch wore at 41mm. And who knows, maybe the Leno dial will appreciate in value!! Attached Images

20 March 2015, 12:27 AM	#46
lipjin "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: HK Watch: AP ROC, Nautilus Posts: 1,657	Lol I read the thread in the mid Still arguments hold:) __________________ "We must use time wisely and forever realize that the time is always ripe to do right" -Nelson Mandela "It is not our abilities that show what we truly are. It is our choices" -Dumbledore Instagram: horolj_

20 March 2015, 09:14 PM	#60
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	I really like the update on the 5270. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

4 October 2012, 12:20 AM	#31
alanski "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: UK Posts: 196	for me eitehr or you cant go wrong , as with all things hard to get patek short production numbers. restricted allocation and as soon as things get discontinued the prices will always rocket . all of thes grand complications were made for only a few yrs sometimes less and allocation of them are hard and unless you have a good AD getting any small production numbers model will be hard . the 5970 is a peach so is the 5270 which will be more or less much of the same i think in say 5-7 yrs time , i asked about the 5270 at my Ads a few months back he made a few calls , filled out the form for me etc wehre he is asked about my buying history and how long hes known me etc and came back with a 13 month lead time as patek only release 3-5 units into the UK per yr , so whole world production ive been told is circa 70 or so pieces of the 5270 per annum say in production for 6-8 yrs you are looking at only 500 give or take pieces world wide , which is imho why patek is most coveted brand on the planet .

7 October 2012, 12:17 AM	#32
myopiccoog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 948	So I went watch shopping. I got to see the 5970 g and r. Nice watches but a bit small on the wrist for me personally. If only buying for collection i would say yes but i wear every piece i own. The watch sits very high on the wrist especially compared to my 5980r. I also saw the 3970p. Awesome piece too. Not much smaller aesthetically to the 5970. Unfortunately I was unable to see the 5270g. It did not arrive in time. I won't make a decision until I see the watch. The good news is that prices are down. I was offered a 5970p at a really low price. I am told by many super high end watch collectors that they are selling because they feel like they should take profits of the last 4 years and move up. Also they feel like prices are way too high right now due to Patek's rapid increases over the last 4 years. We shall see. Stay tuned.

16 October 2012, 06:29 AM	#33
myopiccoog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 948	I put a deposit on a 5270 today. I will check in out in person on the 24th. Hopefully I will like it! :) Stay tuned!

19 March 2015, 03:50 PM	#38
Demonoid 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Logan Location: USA Posts: 2,518	Back from the grave. How have this arguments hold up? And know with the new 2015 models?

20 March 2015, 12:31 AM	#47
yjfang "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: JF Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 Posts: 1,426	What happens to the value of the the first 2 versions of the 5270 (no tacky markers, then the chin) now that there is fixed version 3?

20 March 2015, 08:53 AM	#53
paverman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Ken Location: Illinois Watch: Too many Posts: 2,870	These old resurrected threads get confusing.

20 March 2015, 09:53 AM	#54
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 6,133	I have bought and sold 187 watches since this thread started, and I still don't have the right answer!

20 March 2015, 11:31 AM	#56
myopiccoog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 948	Hahah! Nice re-bake! :)

20 March 2015, 12:34 PM	#58
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,363	Will Patek discontinue the Leno chin 5270s now that they have released the new version of the 5270G blue dial without the chin?

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