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Old 4 December 2012, 07:09 PM   #31
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keep the daytona and save for panda, it is not worth to trade WG daytona for panda, if you can't read the daytona just change the dial. if the daytona trade for bumblee bee then it's another story :Cheers:
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Old 4 December 2012, 07:16 PM   #32
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Here's a question for all AP knowledgeable members: if AP has such great movements, why is it that I constantly read about accuracy issues with them? Recently there was an article on the RO Jumbo that said its accuracy left much to be desired.

Also, on a post about the Diver (which I came very close to buying) people are saying that running +8 sec/day is... normal!

I just don't get it. I just bought a "lowly" Explorer II 42mm as my travel "beater" watch and I'm amazed that after 9 days it is spot on. It has been spot on every day according to the atomic clock.

I love the fit and finish of my watches, the craftsmanship, the design. But most of all, their precision as a mechanical machine. I'm sure nobody would buy a Ferrari that maxed out at 55 MPH.

Please, I'm not a troll nor I'm bashing AP, I just want a more informed opinion from AP owners.

For this reason alone, I would keep the Daytona.

Thanks!
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Old 4 December 2012, 07:20 PM   #33
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I'm sure nobody would buy a Ferrari that maxed out at 55 MPH.
A Nissan GTR does 0-60 in 2.8 seconds. A Ferrari 458 does it in 3.2 seconds.

This doesn't mean that no one would buy a 458
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Old 4 December 2012, 07:41 PM   #34
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I love the fit and finish of my watches, the craftsmanship, the design. But most of all, their precision as a mechanical machine. I'm sure nobody would buy a Ferrari that maxed out at 55 MPH.

Please, I'm not a troll nor I'm bashing AP, I just want a more informed opinion from AP owners.


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There's stories about inaccurate Rolex's too all the time. My ROC runs about +2.
Just as good as any of my Rolex watches has ever done.

Comparing an AP to a Ferrari doing only 55mph is completely irrelevant.

Have you had an AP on your wrist? I doubt it. As there isn't a Rolex that can compare in the detailing, finish and over all quality feel of an AP. It's in a different league. All is not about time keeping accuracy. If that was the case we would all be using quartz watches.
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Old 4 December 2012, 07:41 PM   #35
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A Nissan GTR does 0-60 in 2.8 seconds. A Ferrari 458 does it in 3.2 seconds.

This doesn't mean that no one would buy a 458
The difference is that both numbers are acceptable for a super-sports car. Doing 0-60 in 10 seconds would not be acceptable. How is +8 ~ +10 SEC/day acceptable for a $15k to $25k watch?
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Old 5 December 2012, 01:08 AM   #36
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keep the daytona and save for panda, it is not worth to trade WG daytona for panda, if you can't read the daytona just change the dial. if the daytona trade for bumblee bee then it's another story :Cheers:
I modified my black dial 116520 because I couldn't read it. From this...


To this...


But prefer this...
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Old 5 December 2012, 01:15 AM   #37
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Here's a question for all AP knowledgeable members: if AP has such great movements, why is it that I constantly read about accuracy issues with them? Recently there was an article on the RO Jumbo that said its accuracy left much to be desired.

Also, on a post about the Diver (which I came very close to buying) people are saying that running +8 sec/day is... normal!

I just don't get it. I just bought a "lowly" Explorer II 42mm as my travel "beater" watch and I'm amazed that after 9 days it is spot on. It has been spot on every day according to the atomic clock.

I love the fit and finish of my watches, the craftsmanship, the design. But most of all, their precision as a mechanical machine. I'm sure nobody would buy a Ferrari that maxed out at 55 MPH.

Please, I'm not a troll nor I'm bashing AP, I just want a more informed opinion from AP owners.

For this reason alone, I would keep the Daytona.

Thanks!
Timing is just a function of regulation. I have a 70 yr old pocket watch that keeps better time than any of my Rolexes. Any watch can be regulated to 0s/d but why? So what if it's 8s/d? That's 99.99% accurate. Honestly this preoccupation with the remaining 0.01% is silly.
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Old 5 December 2012, 01:18 AM   #38
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I modified my black dial 116520 because I couldn't read it. From this...


To this...


But prefer this...
Me too. :)
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Old 5 December 2012, 01:19 AM   #39
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Timing is just a function of regulation. I have a 70 yr old pocket watch that keeps better time than any of my Rolexes. Any watch can be regulated to 0s/d but why? So what if it's 8s/d? That's 99.99% accurate. Honestly this preoccupation with the remaining 0.01% is silly.
Enough said.
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Old 5 December 2012, 01:35 AM   #40
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I modified my black dial 116520 because I couldn't read it. From this...


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But prefer this...
very nicee bumblee bee is one of the coolest AP ever made in my opinion
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Old 5 December 2012, 01:38 AM   #41
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Timing is just a function of regulation. I have a 70 yr old pocket watch that keeps better time than any of my Rolexes. Any watch can be regulated to 0s/d but why? So what if it's 8s/d? That's 99.99% accurate. Honestly this preoccupation with the remaining 0.01% is silly.
I forgot to add that even if a watch is 0s/d today, I guarantee it will change over time. Hell, I got a watch fresh back from service at the RSC that was +6s/d. Would I go through the trouble of sending it back for further regulation? Nope. What's the point of fussing over it?

If you want a perfectly accurate AP every time, all the time, get a 15202.
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Old 5 December 2012, 02:05 AM   #42
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I hear atomic clocks are coming into fashion.
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Old 5 December 2012, 02:15 AM   #43
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Go for it, as long as you don't lose any money on the Daytona.
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Old 5 December 2012, 05:44 AM   #44
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You would never even consider this if you had a WG Panda Daytona...I agree with you about the dial, I had a RG chocolate dial Daytona and I could not read the dial and it really bothered me. But right now I couldn't be happier with my Panda dial.

I love the AP line, all their watches are very nice, but I would never sell my WG for a AP. And I think the Daytona Panda is much nicer than the AP ROO or AP ROC Panda.... I'm not saying anything here about the movement, just simply looks, the gold bracelet, the detail on the daytona panda, all that combined I think its a better looking watch.

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Old 5 December 2012, 07:53 AM   #45
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Everyone has different taste and it can change over time. Your current style and wrist size will dictate which watch you gravitate to. I used to own two white gold Daytonas and one SS Daytona. Today I have none as I sold them off to fund my AP addiction. Only Daytona left is the YG which my wife wears. So to Armin statement, I'm guessing I did consider it and it was not easy but I got rid of TWO WG Daytonas lol.....buy what you love and sometimes design can trump the material it is made of.







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Old 5 December 2012, 07:58 AM   #46
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Everyone has different taste and it can change over time. Your current style and wrist size will dictate which watch you gravitate to. I used to own two white gold Daytonas and one SS Daytona. Today I have none as I sold them off to fund my AP addiction. Only Daytona left is the YG which my wife wears. So to Armin statement, I'm guessing I did consider it and it was not easy but I got rid of TWO WG Daytonas lol.....buy what you love and sometimes design can trump the material it is made of.







woww, such a wonderful daytonas.
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Old 5 December 2012, 08:04 AM   #47
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woww, such a wonderful daytonas.
They are very nice but these are out of this world! Lol













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They are very nice but these are out of this world! Lol
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They are very nice but these are out of this world! Lol
Come on, the RG and RB2 are in league of their own...absolutely amazing.
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