Tudor - what gets you excited?

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

I thought I would love the Pelagos, but it was the quickest flip I've ever done. The design was very nice - blue lume (wasn't a huge fan of the lumed bezel), thick minute and hour hands, big markers, ceramic bezel, great clasp. The sum of all the nice parts just didn't translate into a wearable watch for me. If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times - it was just way too freaking tall. It's an insanely big watch. It's taller than just about every PAM I've tried on, taller than the "tall" Planet Ocean 8500.

That's weird. These are the specs I can find

The PO 8500 is 15.7 mm Thick (42mm)
The PO 2500 is 14.2mm Thick (42mm)
Pelagos case thickness is 13.8mm. (42mm)
DSSD: 17.7mm.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by Alex_NYC

I like the 42mm option and the varying models.

I am not saying that because it isn't a Rolex, it's not worth it. There are other models beyond / better than Rolex, many of us are owners.

So far, the pics are great - some very cool references.

How do you guys like the bracelet as it has the older style pins for sizing - and the overall feel of a 42mm compared to the Rolex 40?

Those are the kind of opinions I was hoping to read.

What pins? The bracelet is levels above Rolex!

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by metallic

Now whether I am willing to spend $3000-4000 on an ETA based watch will have to be seen. I will really need to be impressed. In essence, you are buying the case work, dial, and the name.

Sorry but there are many other ETA based watches in the same price bracket with much less engineering built into them. I'd say you're buying much more than just a name.

[~JJ]

Originally, Tudor used Rolex Oyster case's, crown's, bracelet's... everything besides dial and movement. However, both movements have been proven to be very accurate, consistant and durable over the years. Fortunately, Tudor was able to become a standalone brand with resources to fund their own designs more recently (last 10~15 years), which provides something new, at times more innovative, and sets them apart from their big brother. The Tudor Sub dates back to the times of the Rolex Sub, but they dropt the name in the late 90's to help differentiate and protect the Rolex Sub market position. Last year they introduced the Pelagos, which I felt was a better option/tool than the Sub C when taking a test drive myself (price was not a factor too).

Here's what I love about my Pelagos... Bright blue lume that last for hours, matte ceramic bezel w/ bright lume, dial (flat black with little copy, rehaut angles and surrounds the indicies), ghost hands that are well balanced, great case shape that includes bevels and proportionate lugs and crown guards and a truly innovative clasp design that serves real needs. Plus, no one know's what it is and I find that refreshing in a larger city. Plus, this thing keeps great time!

Sorry, for the bad pick, it's sunny out!!!

[~JJ]

Originally Posted by anothernewphone

I thought I would love the Pelagos, but it was the quickest flip I've ever done. The design was very nice - blue lume (wasn't a huge fan of the lumed bezel), thick minute and hour hands, big markers, ceramic bezel, great clasp. The sum of all the nice parts just didn't translate into a wearable watch for me. If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times - it was just way too freaking tall. It's an insanely big watch. It's taller than just about every PAM I've tried on, taller than the "tall" Planet Ocean 8500.

Simply not true, the 8,500 is almost 3mm taller.

[metallic]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Sorry but there are many other ETA based watches in the same price bracket with much less engineering built into them. I'd say you're buying much more than just a name.

Yeah bit I personally will not buy those other ETA based watches at those prices. Tudor I will strongly consider after actually handling the watches.

I am fine with ETA movements, at the appropriate price. For Tudor, I understand there will be a premium to be paid. And I do see some of the engineering. I like most just have to feel it before I can make a determination.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by metallic

Yeah bit I personally will not buy those other ETA based watches at those prices. Tudor I will strongly consider after actually handling the watches.

I am fine with ETA movements, at the appropriate price. For Tudor, I understand there will be a premium to be paid. And I do see some of the engineering. I like most just have to feel it before I can make a determination.

How about vintage Rolex PN Daytona's with ETA movements fetching $75,000 and up? In fact RCO PN sell for $300,000 and yes with ETA movement.

[Chewbacca]

they're just very nice entry level premium swiss watches. the only reason many question their 'worth' is because rolex happens to be associated with them and the expectation is unjustly based on a rolex experience. tudor is not rolex.

if you look and compare a tudor bb with say a IWC aquatimer, Omega SMP, heuer aquaracer etc... its a clear competitor and as rolex would want, it gets one into a rolex showroom for the upgrade down the road. i don't buy the eta argument either as many eta calibres are superior to other makes. they're even superior to many so called 'in-house' brands with fancy rotors and colour.

[Dan Pierce]

For vintage: chronographs w/ dates and exotic dials, blue snowflake subs in SS, Jumbo DD's and DJ's in SS, and all wrapped in the classic Rolex Oyster.




For modern: retro design elements w/ larger solid construction, innovative divers clasp [on the Pelagos as Mike has shown above], the additional OEM provided straps, and the willingness to take bolder risks than the mothership.



dP

[HDHNTER]

Tudor is a WIS litmus test.

[Billywiz]

...I'm not excited...sorry they don't make me. 'Tick'. Not even a tock. Seriously because you most often jump on any decent whatsoever here ...I only do not like them because they all seem over embellished from a design view that all.

[HDHNTER]

If this is what over-embellished decent whatsoever looks like...... well sign me up!



Had the SubC, great watch but the blingy ceramic treatment just didn't do it for me. Very much looking forward to the Pelagos I have inbound.

[cop414]

Good looking, solid watches at a decent price point, nothing wrong with that.

[Tudor Fan]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

How about vintage Rolex PN Daytona's with ETA movements fetching $75,000 and up? In fact RCO PN sell for $300,000 and yes with ETA movement.

Right on!
So much for that argument.
Btw: My Prince Date Chrono always run more exact than my red 6263 Daytona.

But what makes me really 'tick' apart from the great choices of designs, many of them cooler than Rolex, is that it is NOT a Rolex. That may be hard to understand for some on this forum.

There is a certain understatement value to it. That fact that you do not have to 'flash' a Rolex, while at the same time you don't have to give up any quality, timeless looks or anything else Rolex might have to offer.

To really get the full picture I suggest flipping through this thread: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...e+candy&page=3

[motoikkyu]

The current look or trend in watches remains "exaggerated", reminiscent of the 70s look. Nothing wrong with that, it is a look/trend/fashion and will change at some point. The current Rolex line is partly traditional, partly exaggerated, as is reasonable if you want to sell a lot of watches. The Tudor line has some "traditional" looks, or looks that we associate with the Tudor of yesteryear, but also has taken some of those looks forward to make them contemporary or innovative, like the Black Bay and the Ducati. I love the look of a time-only snowflake, the only Rolex that comes close is the 5512. Thus, I respect the design team that brings us the Black Bay and the Pelagos. Money, value? Buy a G-Shock or a Tissot and forget about it. Leave the obsession with design, form, function, and resulting joy to the rest of us sickies.

[Billywiz]

Originally Posted by Survivor

I'm with you........they do absolutely nothing for me. To each his own, I guess

I get there are nice...even great watches...like a porche boxter is a great car...But boy you know you would really like the 911. That how I feel about these. Rather save up and get a Rolex.

[lhanddds]

Originally Posted by HDHNTER

Tudor is a WIS litmus test.

I like this


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[timely]

I do get more complements on my Heritage Blackbay than any of my 4 Rolex.

[Chainring]

Originally Posted by Billywiz

I get there are nice...even great watches...like a porche boxter is a great car...But boy you know you would really like the 911. That how I feel about these. Rather save up and get a Rolex.

The newer Tudors now are so different from the Rolex line that it isn't about accepting a lesser watch. Some of us like the history of the Tudor line and the current stying. Granted, they are much less expensive than a Rolex but several here who are Tudor owners could have any watch they want.

[Chainring]

Originally Posted by timely

I do get more complements on my Heritage Blackbay than any of my 4 Rolex.

Agreed. The BB gets attention.

[HDHNTER]

Originally Posted by landroverking

Another I don't get it. It doesn't say Rolex on the dial.

Dude you are missing out on so much with that mindset. Rolex is a great diving board into the WIS pool..... but if you never take the plunge you miss out on all of the real fun IMHO. Just my .02, take it or leave it.

[Boothroyd]

I see I now have dealer in Minneapolis. I have been looking to a follow-up for my Explorer I, and the Pelagos may fit the bill perfectly. A chrono isn't out the question either.

Having tried on every watch under the sun of interest to me over the last 2 years, I need to see them in person. But if they are discounted at all, I think it may be a one-visit purchase of a Pelagos if it is in real-life what the pictures show.

A modified ETA movement is actually a bonus for me. I want a reliable weekend, casual watch, and springing for a Sub or EXP II seems like overkill to me (I look at my watches as tools, not as the beginning of a serious collection, so I am somewhat in the minority).

[VICI]

Originally Posted by kilyung

What pins? The bracelet is levels above Rolex!

Mike -

I am referring to the clasp

[Lew Archer]

I recall glancing at Tudor at ADs in NYC in the early 1980s. Didn't know the Rolex connection, though. It would have been out of my financial league back then, when my Seiko Sports 100 was as much watch as I could afford (and a damned good watch it was, too)!

The more you love music, the more music you love, the saying goes. I think the same holds true for other passions, including watches.

TRF tuned me into the Tudor history and its current position. Now that Tudor is available in the US, I will certainly check them out...

Now that high end watch prices have become so inflated, there is a need (i.e., a market) for a solid watch which offers the performance of an Omega, Breitling or Rolex, but which is within reach to more people.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by Billywiz

I get there are nice...even great watches...like a porche boxter is a great car...But boy you know you would really like the 911. That how I feel about these. Rather save up and get a Rolex.

And to think I could have bought 4 or 5 Rolex for the price of my 1 Tudor Porsche and
I end up with a Boxter anyways!!

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by Alex_NYC

Mike -

I am referring to the clasp

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See what you mean. The pelagos and heritage chrono have different clasps. The pelagos has a divers clasp and can be adjusted on the fly like the glidelock.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by Alex_NYC

Mike -

I am referring to the clasp

I don't know many other brands that use ceramic ball bearings in their clasp or have designed self adjusting clasps.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by Billywiz

I get there are nice...even great watches...like a porche boxter is a great car...But boy you know you would really like the 911. That how I feel about these. Rather save up and get a Rolex.

I'd take a Cayman over most 911 any day.

[lhanddds]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

And to think I could have bought 4 or 5 Rolex for the price of my 1 Tudor Porsche and
I end up with a Boxter anyways!!

To think I traded two Rolex for my last Tudor, I must be crazy ;)


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[Billywiz]

Originally Posted by kilyung

I'd take a Cayman over most 911 any day.