AP Emergency, please help

[Bulliondesk]

Originally Posted by breitlingherst

I got bored with AP after having a few. Its like you aspire to own "X" watch and thats all you can think about but when you get it, the allure wears off and you're on to something else.

Couldn't have said it any better.

[breitlingherst]

Originally Posted by conkers

Some very sage advice guys thanks.

Re the RM004, I think I would love it, but have never seen one in the flesh sadly!! I maintain a slight preference for the 15 and perhaps also the 22.

The Platinum Schuey I did try before I bought the Novelty Platinum, I actually preferred the latter.

woahh....we're talking about a different hemisphere with the 15 and 22. in that case. i would suggest my two personal super grails...RM 003 and RM 002!!

[breitlingherst]

Originally Posted by Bulliondesk

Couldn't have said it any better.

haha yea......im usually content with the watch for 6-8 months before the itch starts again.

[SMD]

Any other hobbies you can focus on? As many have said, you may just need a break from the madness so that you can "rediscover" your former passion. RM may still do it for you, but given all the other brands that have fallen out of favor, its days may be numbered as well.

[bayerische]

Amazing collection you sold!

Patek?

[dnutz]

It's simple.... It's a sickness! Our watch buying and selling habits, wanting to owning to getting rid off for the next spur of the moment "better grail".... It's a vicious cycle!

Take a break... Have a good think and hopefully your love with AP will rekindle!

[111forza]

Perhaps you are over complicating the issue here roger

Take a step back and maybe keep it simple

Try one of these

Mine makes me smile every time i look at it on my wrist

[Yoda]

You guys do realise that AP have a 25% share holding in RM and share some R&D departments. In my opinion RM skeleton dials are at another level..

[mjg002]

Originally Posted by 111forza

Perhaps you are over complicating the issue here roger

Take a step back and maybe keep it simple

Try one of these

Mine makes me smile every time i look at it on my wrist

Couldn't agree more!!

[v5cog]

Originally Posted by breitlingherst

I got bored with AP after having a few. Its like you aspire to own "X" watch and thats all you can think about but when you get it, the allure wears off and you're on to something else.

I had the very same thing with my first love of Breitlings, but after owning 5 of them, I got bored quickly and now own just one... I looked at AP as a massive aspirational dream purchase, and finally owning one was a huge milestone for me...but although i still love my Bumblebee and at present have no wish (or funds) to further the collection, I know that if i add to the AP collection the desire might wear off... So I agree with 111forza keep it simple...Stick with just one.. You'll love looking at it day after day, rather than having four or five and getting bored.
I'm sure you'll find a piece that will light the desire again roger,
Just my humble opinion ...

[Bigbadbns]

Originally Posted by v5cog

I had the very same thing with my first love of Breitlings, but after owning 5 of them, I got bored quickly and now own just one... I looked at AP as a massive aspirational dream purchase, and finally owning one was a huge milestone for me...but although i still love my Bumblebee and at present have no wish (or funds) to further the collection, I know that if i add to the AP collection the desire might wear off... So I agree with 111forza keep it simple...Stick with just one.. You'll love looking at it day after day, rather than having four or five and getting bored.
I'm sure you'll find a piece that will light the desire again roger,
Just my humble opinion ...

Agreed! i used to have at least one a day on rotation from different brands but now i'm down to 3 which i wear my AP most of the time and so happy with this decision.

Mr. Roger, may i suggest these three monsters?





or something different but remarkable in the same AP brand

[QueueCumber]

If it must be AP I would say the RG or PT Schumi. If it can be other brands, I would check out A. Lange & Sohne or Patek. It all depends on how much you are willing to spend I guess, as there are specific models in each brand that I would consider worthwhile.

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by v5cog

I had the very same thing with my first love of Breitlings, but after owning 5 of them, I got bored quickly and now own just one... I looked at AP as a massive aspirational dream purchase, and finally owning one was a huge milestone for me...but although i still love my Bumblebee and at present have no wish (or funds) to further the collection, I know that if i add to the AP collection the desire might wear off... So I agree with 111forza keep it simple...Stick with just one.. You'll love looking at it day after day, rather than having four or five and getting bored.
I'm sure you'll find a piece that will light the desire again roger,
Just my humble opinion ...

This has happened to me overall with my watch collection :( I feel this way the most about Panerai, I haven't touched one in months and they are all sitting.

As for AP, even though it's my favorite, the love even wears off as well. I think it's when you have too many "too many is not necessarily a good thing" it can spoil you and make you bored...

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by conkers

Thanks guys, hopefully my watch mojo will return in the near future!

Might I add to this as well what you've said?? "Watch mojo"

I don't think it's AP specific, I think it's an overall boredom ... I go in and out of waves with my passions.. Now I'm on my car kick, next week something else, back to watches lol

It's sick

[conkers]

Some great points there guys. I have sold a lot of my Patek safe queens over the last several months too, 3970G, 5396G, 5960P, 5000R, 5130P. I am working on a 5270G (prefer the larger size), but I am less excited by Patek than I used to be (leaving aside the likes of the 5208 etc.).

Lange is definitely interesting, the Datograph Perpetual is a lovely watch and will move on that if I find a well priced one.

For RMs, the RM002 and RM003 feel a little small when I am used to my 11s, the 15 and 22 are closer in size to the 11.

The Jules Audemars grand complications I am investigating.........

In the meantime, I can focus on one of my other hobbies (just installing a vast Krell/Wilson AV rig!).

Really appreciate all the comments!

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by conkers

Some great points there guys. I have sold a lot of my Patek safe queens over the last several months too, 3970G, 5396G, 5960P, 5000R, 5130P. I am working on a 5270G (prefer the larger size), but I am less excited by Patek than I used to be (leaving aside the likes of the 5208 etc.).

Lange is definitely interesting, the Datograph Perpetual is a lovely watch and will move on that if I find a well priced one.

For RMs, the RM002 and RM003 feel a little small when I am used to my 11s, the 15 and 22 are closer in size to the 11.

The Jules Audemars grand complications I am investigating.........

In the meantime, I can focus on one of my other hobbies (just installing a vast Krell/Wilson AV rig!).

Really appreciate all the comments!

I had a surround system built from Wilson Watt Puppy 8s and Sophia 8s (surrounds) at one point, then moved to Revel Salon 2 surrounds all around (5.1 with 4 JL Audio Fathom F112 subs), and now have Salon 2s across the front (3) and six Gem 2s around the sides and back in my HT. Used to use Bryston, then Ayre, and now I use a HT setup that is less "high end" but I can't hear the difference between well made amps despite professional audio training....

[AK797]

When a man is tired of AP, he's tired of life...

You'll be back.

[AK797]

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[conkers]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I had a surround system built from Wilson Watt Puppy 8s and Sophia 8s (surrounds) at one point, then moved to Revel Salon 2 surrounds all around (5.1 with 4 JL Audio Fathom F112 subs), and now have Salon 2s across the front (3) and six Gem 2s around the sides and back in my HT.

The Revels were on the short list before I went with Wilson. Bass seemed to punch a little harder with the Wilson, but not much in it. I have Sasha WP L/R, Mezzo Centre and Duette Surrounds.

Another expensive habit.....

And yes, I am sure I will be back to AP, just a short intermission I hope.

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by conkers

Some very wise comments guys, and I think the burn-out/boredom aspect is very likely.

This is not an RM forum, so I won't give a lengthy view on them here, but I still find them immensely enjoyable to wear it must be said. Quite partial to the RM015. The skull will be a nice used purchase in a couple of years, don't buy new!

I genuinely think that as you clearly do very well you have been able to indulge yourself in whatever you like, everything has a cycle and your purchasing ability has just meant that there's currently nothing left to hold your interest. I'm sure that this is only a temporary situation as AP needs clients like you but for today have you considered going out and buying a Zonda?

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by conkers

Some great points there guys.

In the meantime, I can focus on one of my other hobbies (just installing a vast Krell/Wilson AV rig!).

Really appreciate all the comments!

I have a Linn Klimax system in the lounge which is well worth checking out. A live concert is never the same after having one of these.

[conkers]

Ha! Don't get me started on cars. It's a habit I kicked when I left the UK! A Zonda in Hong Kong would be a terrible waste.......

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by AK797

When a man is tired of AP, he's tired of life...

You'll be back.

Im at this point :(

Need to reinvent myself

[TSW]

That is some sales over the months...

Roger these two pieces pops up for me

[conkers]

Thanks, the ROO Carbon/Rose Gold Tourbillon is a possibility but less a fan of the Carbon Concept to be honest. Quite taken with this more traditional piece too:

[AshAP]

I really like the carbon offshore tourbillon, it's an awesome looking watch, nicer than any RM in my eyes.

[conkers]

Originally Posted by AshAP

I really like the carbon offshore tourbillon, it's an awesome looking watch, nicer than any RM in my eyes.

I hear you, but I think until you have seen say an RM015 in the flesh and very close up, one under-appreciates the inner beauty of them. One important consideration is that the large RMs mould to my wrist (with the curvature of the cases) much better than the larger APs do, I think RM have done a great job with case design. With the 44mm and 48mm ROOs if your wrist is less than say 8" they don't sit as well. Of course I have worn them happily in the past, but I appreciate the RM fit much more now that they are my daily wearers and that I am not wearing APs.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by conkers

The Revels were on the short list before I went with Wilson. Bass seemed to punch a little harder with the Wilson, but not much in it. I have Sasha WP L/R, Mezzo Centre and Duette Surrounds.

Another expensive habit.....

And yes, I am sure I will be back to AP, just a short intermission I hope.

They could have seemed to give more punch for a few reasons:

1) Room placement differences (revealed through room measurements).
2) Speaker design differences (revealed through anechoic frequency response measurements).
3) Equalization or alteration of the signal along the signal path at some point.

You can add more punch to the revels (and more treble) via switches in the back that allow you to compensate for room placement issues (or to to just add more if you like more...). The Wilson's could have slightly more punch but they don't measure as flat, so it is possibly a punch that is added by the differential in frequency ranges between the low frequency and mid/high range frequencies, and not something inherently in the music. Depending on the room the speakers are in the bass could become much heavier or much lighter depending on the bass reinforcement added by the dimensions of the room. In general having a flatter measuring speaker makes it easier to compensate for the room frequency reinforcement issues rather than having to correct for the room and speakers simultaneously, which becomes very messy. I had issues trying to mate the Wilsons to my room in comparison to the Revels. They sounded extremely different from how they sounded in the store (where they were placed well into the center of a gigantic room, basically eliminating room reinforcement issues from the music...).

Here is the Ultima 2 Salon 2 measurement (Stereophile):



Here is the Watt Puppy Sasha measurement (Stereophile):

[QueueCumber]

Funny enough, the low end of my Salon2s are sort of useless right now since I have my surround setup hooked up to four JL Audio Fathom F112 subwoofers. My whole room shakes during thunder or car racing scenes (not really, because the room is very solidly put together, but you get the idea....)

[QueueCumber]

I was an audioholic before my last HT rebuild. Here is a thread of my HT on this forum: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...hlight=theater

My advice: stick with the watches. LOL!

There is extremely small diminishing returns, and a lot of snake oil, in the high end audio field, for insane amounts of money. With a watch you know exactly what you are getting...

Now, if you are considering the leap into HT and surround, then I encourage it. There are huge leaps in performance to be had with video projectors per price differences and with expert room acoustic designs as well! Likewise, video playback equipment can also show marked differences that are perceptible and measurable.