AP Royal Oak Chrono Vs Patek Nautilus Chrono

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by diver2012

I'd get the AP - but with a black face.

The AP looks much better on you than the PP.

I definitely prefer the black dial RG to the white dial RG ROC, but I still like the Patek 5980 better overall aesthetically. If I was forced to buy the ROC, I would get the black dial...

[Knappo 1307]

Ap

[orangedial]

I voted PP for a rarer status symbol with an in-house chrono movement. However the ROC is a better value purchase with a killer design and looks much more balance on your wrist. The small TV screen of Nautilus (my wife called it) lacks the presence on your big wrist.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by singe89

just my opinion

Looks - AP - I like royal oak shape and the layout of the sub dials more
Value - AP
Quality - Case, bracelet and dial are about even with edge to Patek for the inhouse movement
Repair and Service Times - AP
Resale - Patek - But its a newer release so if larger discounts can be had in the future it could lower resale value.
Status - Patek

For the price difference I would go with the RG ROC and get a SS Nautilus.

Just what I wrote on the Patek forum

ROs in gold and Nautilus' in steel for me.

[subtona]

Unique subdial layout of the Patek for the win,

by comparison the AP looks a bit common in the chrono range

[el1125]

Pp

[TSW]

Gotta go with the 5980 on this one

[QueueCumber]

For all those claiming that the 5980 and ROC are anything but equal in size and thinness, this article shows pictures of them from all sides compared. They are equal on all dimensions....

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/jumb...bo-546212.html

[AK797]

The Nautilus wears like a 41/2mm, and so does the old 39mm ROC. But the new 41mm ROC wears like a 43/4mm, which is a better size for a chrono imho. It wears much larger than the Nautilus.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by AK797

The Nautilus wears like a 41/2mm, and so does the old 39mm ROC. But the new 41mm ROC wears like a 43/4mm, which is a better size for a chrono imho. It wears much larger than the Nautilus.

Side by side they are exactly the same size. See the above article with pictures. If anything the Nautilus is a little bigger measuring side to side on the case, which gives the illusion that it is not as big top to bottom on the case, but it measures the case measures the same top to bottom on the case as the ROC. The Nautilus is larger side to side on the case than the ROC.

[Jim12345]

Both great watches, to me the AP looks better on your wrist. No question the PP is a beaut, just looks small on you. Good luck with your decision.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by Jim12345

Both great watches, to me the AP looks better on your wrist. No question the PP is a beaut, just looks small on you. Good luck with your decision.

You are looking at unscaled pics...

[AK797]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Side by side they are exactly the same size. See the above article with pictures. If anything the Nautilus is a little bigger measuring side to side on the case, which gives the illusion that it is not as big top to bottom on the case, but it measures the case measures the same top to bottom on the case as the ROC. The Nautilus is larger side to side on the case than the ROC.

A friend of mine has the 5711 and when put next to my 41mm ROC it is much smaller, as I said one wears like a 42mm and the other 44mm. Maybe the chronos are a similar thickness. Heres a pic I found.

[mdtddd2007]

Patek no ?

[DreambreaX]

Originally Posted by AK797

A friend of mine has the 5711 and when put next to my 41mm ROC it is much smaller, as I said one wears like a 42mm and the other 44mm. Maybe the chronos are a similar thickness. Heres a pic I found.

the patek looks really ugly,

AP ftw!

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by AK797

A friend of mine has the 5711 and when put next to my 41mm ROC it is much smaller, as I said one wears like a 42mm and the other 44mm. Maybe the chronos are a similar thickness. Heres a pic I found.

I believe the photos from the link I supplied before that one, simply because they aren't aligned which can have optical illusion affects on sizing. Also, we can't tell what angle his arm is at...

From the link I supplied, where both are side by side at the same height and angle:



The Patek looks a little bit smaller, but part of the reason for that is that it is a little lower in the picture (see the case alignment between the two in the photo), also the bezel shape difference between the two is remarkable. The wider bezel on the Patek makes it look proportionately smaller compared to the more symmetric ROO bezel. Is the Patek marginally smaller, slightly, but the photo you posted is greatly accentuating that difference by how they are posed.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/jumb...bo-546212.html

[QueueCumber]

BTW, the RO looks too big on your friends wrist IMO...

[T.S.Eliot]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I believe the photos from the link I supplied before that one, simply because they aren't aligned which can have optical illusion affects on sizing. Also, we can't tell what angle his arm is at...

From the link I supplied, where both are side by side at the same height and angle:



The Patek looks a little bit smaller, but part of the reason for that is that it is a little lower in the picture (see the case alignment between the two in the photo), also the bezel shape difference between the two is remarkable. The wider bezel on the Patek makes it look proportionately smaller compared to the more symmetric ROO bezel. Is the Patek marginally smaller, slightly, but the photo you posted is greatly accentuating that difference by how they are posed.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/jumb...bo-546212.html

The comparison in the other forum are for a 39 RO not the 41 Q.

Personally not a fan of RO 41 nor the Nautilus.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by T.S.Eliot

The comparison in the other forum are for a 39 RO not the 41 Q.

Personally not a fan of RO 41 nor the Nautilus.

The article I posted is comparing the Patek jumbo and the AP jumbo, as listed in the article.

[AK797]

Sure Q, as I said the 39mm ROs and Nauts are similar but the OP is comparing the 41mm RO chrono and Naut chrono and for that the RO is much larger, and judging by his large wrists will suit him better.

Update - Debate over, his wrists are over 8 inches.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by AK797

Sure Q, as I said the 39mm ROs and Nauts are similar but the OP is comparing the 41mm RO chrono and Naut chrono and for that the RO is much larger, and judging by his large wrists will suit him better.

Update - Debate over, his wrists are over 8 inches.

They look like similar proportions as the pictures I posted when the wrist is scaled in the OP's own pictures:

[codecow]

Mr. Farris, consider it this way. If you bought the Patek would you be wondering if you should have bought the AP; or if you bought the AP would you be wondering if you should have bought the Patek? I think when you can answer this you will know which one you should get.

[cdnyc]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

They look like similar proportions as the pictures I posted when the wrist is scaled in the OP's own pictures:

What you've done in this pic is set the watches to be the same size -- not the wrist/hand. Look how much bigger/closer his hand is in the Patek pic. Patek wears much smaller, and I suspect it is smaller than the 41mm AP (as opposed to the 39mm Jumbo comparison)

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by cdnyc81

What you've done in this pic is set the watches to be the same size -- not the wrist/hand. Look how much bigger/closer his hand is in the Patek pic. Patek wears much smaller, and I suspect it is smaller than the 41mm AP (as opposed to the 39mm Jumbo comparison)

Actually, the one on the right may be marginally larger, but the Patek is also larger. They will look around the same size if I try to make them more equal, which I will try to do later today. I had to draw the comparison on my other computer, with no photoshop or illustrator, so it was hard to equalize them. I will be able to use illustrator on this computer...

[AK797]

Q, give it up or just go to an ADs and you will see the ROC is MUCH MUCH bigger, trust me it is not EVEN close, than the little old Nautilus! My earlier comparison pic is accurate, Ive held them both at the same time. Your pics are clearly distorted, look at Farris's wrist size in the Naut pic, its freaking huge. Next youll be saying the Naut is bigger than your Schumi! Haha!

[QueueCumber]

Nah. Here is a pretty much perfectly scaled comparison...

Yellow line = Bezel comparison
Red line = wrist line to show scale is fairly equal
Black line = bracelet width to show relative scaling



It is marginally bigger if you ask me for bezel size. In terms of bracelet the PP is marginally bigger. The initial bends in the case are at almost the same exact points, though the bracelet attaches further up on the Patek, making the solid case portion after the bend larger on the ROC.

That being said, the round design of the dial on the ROC has more dial area than the PP because it is nearly a circle vs. a square (pi*r^2 vs. width x length). this is what makes it look bigger "on the wrist" to people. Personally, I think it looks bad with the white dial because of that, and would prefer black as it would tone it down a bit...

[blcblc]

Patek but like the others said it's too small on your wrist

[Farris]

Pulled the trigger on an 44mm Rose Offshore and hope to add a 5712R shortly.

Thanks Guys!

[FeelingTheBlues]

Originally Posted by Farris

Pulled the trigger on an 44mm Rose Offshore and hope to add a 5712R shortly.

Thanks Guys!

Congratulations.

[Farris]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

Congratulations.

Thanks! I love the look of the rose offshore, but I am finding it very uncomfortable to wear. Has anyone else experienced this?

I hope it is just a matter of getting used to it. I have the option to exchange it, but they won't do a refund.