16610LV - the MK VI dial - Newly discovered dial variance?

[bondtoys]

Yep, I have been using a 116610LN dial for a 16610LV watch to get the blue lume:

[strafer_kid]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Yep, I have been using a 116610LN dial for a 16610LV watch to get the blue lume:

Great looking watch!

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by Johny

hi sam
one of the members on here ..bondtoys..I think it is, has fitted a 116610ln dial with blue lume to his 16610lv. the pics are in the modified rolex thread. johny.

Hi Jonhy,

Thanks for that too Just saw his post.

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Yep, I have been using a 116610LN dial for a 16610LV watch to get the blue lume:

Hi bondtoys,

Thanks for sharing the pics

Just curious, why would you want to use the case of the 16610LV? Is it because of the more tapered looks of previous generation of Rolex Subs? Or you were just plain naughty?

[shou.biao.kuang]

I have just realized something was amiss....

bondtoys! Where are my crown guards on the 16610LV? Apparently you are more of being naughty than took a liking to the tapered looks huh??

[Johny]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

I have just realized something was amiss....

bondtoys! Where are my crown guards on the 16610LV? Apparently you are more of being naughty than took a liking to the tapered looks huh??

[bondtoys]

Naughty or not - please ask my wife

The modification was not done only for the blue lume, I have tried to create a contemporary James Bond Submariner - a watch which James Bond should wear today instead of the Omegas.

For those interested in the project, it's all here:

http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/42501/...es-bond-rolex/

[shou.biao.kuang]

You have just pissed the Rolex purists off pal!

BTW, you still have the Flat 4 insert for sales?

[bondtoys]

Sorry, mate that flat 4 insert has already been sold

[TheRealPatek]

I've owned my LV for 2 years already and never knew the flat 4 was a big deal. I still dont, but I've received more interest because of it. Is it that rare?

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Sorry, mate that flat 4 insert has already been sold

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by TheRealPatek

I've owned my LV for 2 years already and never knew the flat 4 was a big deal. I still dont, but I've received more interest because of it. Is it that rare?

Hi Jeff,

Yes it is rare (in the world of the 16610LV). It was spotted only on the "Y" serial till the early "F" serial of this model together with the MK 1 dial, they are the more collectable ones of this model. And it sure commands a premium on the market due to its limited supply.

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by TheRealPatek

I've owned my LV for 2 years already and never knew the flat 4 was a big deal. I still dont, but I've received more interest because of it. Is it that rare?

Flat 4's are rare. But there is a difference between flat 4's. There is a MK1 Flat 4 lime green insert and then there is a MK3 flat 4 dark green insert.

The MK1 inserts will always command a higher priemium over the mk3's and mk1's and mk3's will always be worth more than mk2's 4's 5's 6's and 7's all with pointed 4's..

Less flat fours and much more pointed fours at the end of the day.

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by SubKing

Flat 4's are rare. But there is a difference between flat 4's. There is a MK1 Flat 4 lime green insert and then there is a MK3 flat 4 dark green insert.

The MK1 inserts will always command a higher priemium over the mk3's and mk1's and mk3's will always be worth more than mk2's 4's 5's 6's and 7's all with pointed 4's..

Less flat fours and much more pointed fours at the end of the day.

I would agree with SubKing on this. The lime green Flat 4 are the rarest of all the 16610LV's inserts, followed by the "normal (dark) green" Flat 4 insert. Find either one of these, make sure you hold on tight to it!

[fleabag]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

I would agree with SubKing on this. The lime green Flat 4 are the rarest of all the 16610LV's inserts, followed by the "normal (dark) green" Flat 4 insert. Find either one of these, make sure you hold on tight to it!

Heres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



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[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Sorry, mate that flat 4 insert has already been sold

No worry pal. Enjoy your modded LV

[shou.biao.kuang]

Bondtoys pal,

What's with this model? I have checked through the list of sub's history and couldn't find this model.... "16610LV Big Crown"???!!!

[Johny]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

Bondtoys pal,

What's with this model? I have checked through the list of sub's history and couldn't find this model.... "16610LV Big Crown"???!!!

Only ever issued in the German market. very rare.

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by Johny

Only ever issued in the German market. very rare.

What other "rare" models do we have up there in Germany?
Show us what you've got pals...

[switi]

what is this dial i have?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Johny

Only ever issued in the German market. very rare.

Got to laugh at all these LV rare dials or any other so called rare modern day Rolex.

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by padi56

Got to laugh at all these LV rare dials or any other so called rare modern day Rolex.

The Mk1 LVs seem to be selling for a premium and people are buying. Some collectors have an interest in the first year addition anniversary sub only.

As for the rest that are not considered mk1, they sell at the going rate as far as anniversary subs go but still hold their value better than any modern sub. It's an important model and in the years to come, I see the prices only going up. May take years, but I see the LV being like a red sub collectible one day.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by padi56

Got to laugh at all these LV rare dials or any other so called rare modern day Rolex.

produced by the bucket load peter.

[GEORGE505]

Sorry it's not looking to good!!

[sirduncs]

anything discontinued will become vintage eventually. as for rarity, well, if people are prepared to pay a premium, then that will dictate things.

i am looking forward to my LV becoming vintage in a few decades when i myself also begin turning vintage lol

duncs

[bondtoys]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

What other "rare" models do we have up there in Germany?
Show us what you've got pals...

Sam may call me naughty again , but 116710 dials fit into 16710 watches as well

Here is my latest:

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Sam may call me naughty again , but 116710 dials fit into 16710 watches as well

Here is my latest:

Haha... What did you this time pal?? Mixing up the dial, modding the case again?!!

[bondtoys]

This time the modification was modest - by my standards

I only took a 116710LN dial, got rid of the green GMT MASTER II wording and made it in white and put it into a 16710.

No case modification, no added naughtiness

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

This time the modification was modest - by my standards

I only took a 116710LN dial, got rid of the green GMT MASTER II wording and made it in white and put it into a 16710.

No case modification, no added naughtiness

Subtle form of naughtiness??!!

Just curious, why a 116710LN dial on a 16710? The over-printing of the green GMT Master II word?

[Gaijin]

You can say that they are not rare and of course they are not vintage yet but when generally speaking Rolex prices continue to rise and NIB regular 16610s are selling here on this forum for $ 8,000 and GMT II Pepsis not NIB for $10,000 well you can call it hype but the bottom line the value is what the market will allow.

Whether we agree that they are rare or not the fact is there are people willing to pay a premium for them and someday if they want to sell them somebody else will pay them even more than they paid to get one.

[Gaijin]

A NIB NOS 16610 non LV for sale here for $8,350. A NIB NOS Seadweller for $8,650. Are they rare? No. Are they discontinued. Yes. Will the prices continue to rise. For sure.

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

You can say that they are not rare and of course they are not vintage yet but when generally speaking Rolex prices continue to rise and NIB regular 16610s are selling here on this forum for $ 8,000 and GMT II Pepsis not NIB for $10,000 well you can call it hype but the bottom line the value is what the market will allow.

Whether we agree that they are rare or not the fact is there are people willing to pay a premium for them and someday if they want to sell them somebody else will pay them even more than they paid to get one.

Originally Posted by Gaijin

A NIB NOS 16610 non LV for sale here for $8,350. A NIB NOS Seadweller for $8,650. Are they rare? No. Are they discontinued. Yes. Will the prices continue to rise. For sure.

I agree with Gaijin here his observation

He separated nicely between rarity, desirability and market demand and hence the price..