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blcblc · 29 August 2014, 01:03 AM

Between those 2, i'd pick 5980

benlee · 29 August 2014, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Well all you can do is try

You gotta admit the 5712R has that chic aura all over, is a sport-dressy watch.
Don't get me wrong, I like the 5980r it has a lot of presence, more gold !!! , heavier and stunning as well;

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Promise is the last one,

More!

JorgeCCW · 29 August 2014, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by benlee

More!

Ok I lied !

This one matches my pants

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CWIN · 29 August 2014, 02:03 AM

Stunning.

AK797 · 29 August 2014, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Ok I lied !

This one matches my pants

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I wonder if Ken is gonna photbomb this thread and then a RG royal battle begins

h999r · 29 August 2014, 04:56 AM

5980R is my pick, more simple dial.

JorgeCCW · 29 August 2014, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

I wonder if Ken is gonna photbomb this thread and then a RG royal battle begins

He might

But I am out of ammo

Royalex · 2 September 2014, 11:50 AM

5712r is remarkable.

AK797 · 5 February 2015, 02:06 AM

Thought I'd add a pic of the 5980 I also took.

lapince · 5 February 2015, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I prefer the 5712r as I love how the nautilus case is preserved (sans pushers). I also agree with Jorge that patek and MP just makes sense to me.

Tom, the 5712 has 2 pushers at 4 and 8

lmcgbaj · 5 February 2015, 02:17 AM

5712R by far. Sits better on the wrist as well.

HL65 · 5 February 2015, 02:20 AM

If there can be only one...

Preacher · 5 February 2015, 02:22 AM

5980 looks good on bracelet due to the heft of the case. 5712 looks good in any format and in any steel!

raclaims · 5 February 2015, 02:23 AM

I just tried on a 12R and didn't like it at all...I really hope I like the 80R I ordered!!

raclaims · 5 February 2015, 02:23 AM

Ken...talk me off the cliff!!

HL65 · 5 February 2015, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by raclaims

Ken...talk me off the cliff!!

You will love it....Best sold RG watch I have ever seen or owned!

raclaims · 5 February 2015, 02:51 AM

Whew...ok...I feel better...thanks Ken! Originally I was going to go with an AP RG ROC but fell in love with yours and then well...there was no going back!

GB-man · 5 February 2015, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lapince

Tom, the 5712 has 2 pushers at 4 and 8

Of course I am aware of the push pieces but I was speaking of the chrono pushers which are much more distinctive

HL65 · 5 February 2015, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by raclaims

Whew...ok...I feel better...thanks Ken! Originally I was going to go with an AP RG ROC but fell in love with yours and then well...there was no going back!

You definitely made right choice! They can't give away the ROC's anymore..Market fell out from under them. I know dealers here on TRF offered for $36K and passed as they can't sell ones they have. I came close to getting one and decided to stick with Patek and no more AP. Good move and congrats in advance!

raclaims · 5 February 2015, 04:50 AM

That's great insight Ken...much appreciated!

bh_horology · 5 February 2015, 05:35 AM

5980R.

I had a similar decision to make last month and I went for the 5980R. I didn't like the asymmetrical dial on the 5712 and the 5980 had a better wrist presence...and the chrono movement is simply amazing.

GOB · 5 February 2015, 06:42 AM

Ken: would you mind expanding on why the ROCs can't be given away? Not trying to stir any kind of pot, just want to make sure I did not miss out on some important news (well, at least related to haute horlogerie).

HL65 · 5 February 2015, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GOB

Ken: would you mind expanding on why the ROCs can't be given away? Not trying to stir any kind of pot, just want to make sure I did not miss out on some important news (well, at least related to haute horlogerie).

I mean that they are not an easy sell and my friends who are dealers can't move them and market for them very soft. As I stated I know a dealer here who passed on used one for $36K because he can't sell the 2 he has. Why that is who knows but the craze for them that existed months ago is dead.

mps354 · 5 February 2015, 10:10 AM

Both are beautiful

thurgood · 5 February 2015, 12:22 PM

The 5712r gets my vote not because I have one myself but it has more of an interesting dial compared to the 5980 and much more elegant IMHO.

redsubby · 5 February 2015, 01:39 PM

5980 for me. 5712 dial is not my cup of tea!

thomaspp · 5 February 2015, 02:30 PM

God that 5980 would go so nicely with your others my friend!

AS1 · 5 February 2015, 09:59 PM

I am totally new to the PP world, is it correct that one cannot get the 5712R with a bracelet (only with a strap)?

de66 · 6 February 2015, 01:45 AM

Choose the one you will end up looking at most.
I mean, usually you end up looking at the face of the watch most of the time. If you only wear your watch under your sleaves and like heavy watches that give you a certain feel more than you like the way the 5712 dial looks....
Then you have your answer

thurgood · 6 February 2015, 04:33 AM

a dressy look

29 August 2014, 02:03 AM	#34
CWIN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Chris Location: San Diego Watch: Patek, AP, Rolex Posts: 4,449	Stunning. __________________ *Instagram* @cwin

5 February 2015, 02:17 AM	#41
lmcgbaj "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: G Location: Canada Watch: es are FUN!!! Posts: 1,979	5712R by far. Sits better on the wrist as well. __________________ "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive.* "*

5 February 2015, 02:20 AM	#42
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,991	If there can be only one... __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

5 February 2015, 02:22 AM	#43
Preacher "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middle England Watch: Rolex of course Posts: 526	5980 looks good on bracelet due to the heft of the case. 5712 looks good in any format and in any steel! __________________ Rolex is the King of Watches...indeed.

5 February 2015, 02:30 PM	#57
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,137	God that 5980 would go so nicely with your others my friend! __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

29 August 2014, 01:03 AM	#31
blcblc "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,296	Between those 2, i'd pick 5980

29 August 2014, 04:56 AM	#36
h999r Banned Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: HR Location: Planet Earth Watch: -ing Barts. Posts: 4,244	5980R is my pick, more simple dial.

2 September 2014, 11:50 AM	#38
Royalex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bangkok Posts: 762	5712r is remarkable.

5 February 2015, 02:06 AM	#39
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	Thought I'd add a pic of the 5980 I also took.

5 February 2015, 02:23 AM	#44
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,624	I just tried on a 12R and didn't like it at all...I really hope I like the 80R I ordered!!

5 February 2015, 02:51 AM	#47
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,624	Whew...ok...I feel better...thanks Ken! Originally I was going to go with an AP RG ROC but fell in love with yours and then well...there was no going back!

5 February 2015, 04:50 AM	#50
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,624	That's great insight Ken...much appreciated!

5 February 2015, 05:35 AM	#51
bh_horology "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 119	5980R. I had a similar decision to make last month and I went for the 5980R. I didn't like the asymmetrical dial on the 5712 and the 5980 had a better wrist presence...and the chrono movement is simply amazing.

5 February 2015, 06:42 AM	#52
GOB "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Panama Posts: 167	Ken: would you mind expanding on why the ROCs can't be given away? Not trying to stir any kind of pot, just want to make sure I did not miss out on some important news (well, at least related to haute horlogerie).

5 February 2015, 10:10 AM	#54
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 9,095	Both are beautiful

5 February 2015, 12:22 PM	#55
thurgood "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Scott Location: West coast Watch: PP/AP/ROLEX Posts: 391	The 5712r gets my vote not because I have one myself but it has more of an interesting dial compared to the 5980 and much more elegant IMHO.

5 February 2015, 01:39 PM	#56
redsubby "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Henry Location: TW/SoCal Posts: 1,632	5980 for me. 5712 dial is not my cup of tea!

5 February 2015, 09:59 PM	#58
AS1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NYC / Milan Watch: 6263 Posts: 3,938	I am totally new to the PP world, is it correct that one cannot get the 5712R with a bracelet (only with a strap)?

6 February 2015, 01:45 AM	#59
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	Choose the one you will end up looking at most. I mean, usually you end up looking at the face of the watch most of the time. If you only wear your watch under your sleaves and like heavy watches that give you a certain feel more than you like the way the 5712 dial looks.... Then you have your answer

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