SeaDweller 4000. Honeymoon over?

[Thatguy]

Originally Posted by SC11

Benefit Vs price...

I paid a £1500 premium over my 114060 to get the 116600 and to me it's very much worth it!

Don't get me wrong the 114060 is a great watch and I can understand why many prefer that model and likewise with the 116610 but it's a luxury item so buy what you want because you like it not based on its VFM.

I think for a true WIS the price is irrelevant and wil buy which ever price model they desire however for someone looking to buy the brand name when at an AD they may look at the 114060, 116610 and 116600 and just see the price tag!

I would have paid the extra if it was available when I bought my subc. Since I have the sub now I would rather put the money it would cost me to trade toward another watch. It is a tough call though....


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[Anthon]

A fantastic watch, I spent a great deal of time debating wether to buy one or not. But price and useless features (to me at least, the gas escape valve), activate that little voice in my head that says: over the top.

[Chadridv]

As a non owner I'll say that I love this watch! I am constantly looking at pictures and videos of it, but for some reason it didn't feel right for me on the wrist. I think as one member already mentioned, if they made the SD4000 a 42mm case I think it would have ridiculous popularity.

[kaiserphoenix]

I prefer the 16600 and bought that instead, much cheaper but same technical specs.

[Mick P]

Chaps

The SD4000 is a good watch but it does have a few things working against it.

1. The old Sea Dweller is in all honesty a classier looking watch with better proportions and a less fussy bezel.

2. The cost compared to a sub is way to great.

3. It draws attention to itself with a hint of vulgarity.

Regards

Mick

[strafer_kid]

I picked up the SD4000 fairly soon after its release as I am a big Seadweller fan. It is undoubtedly a fantastic watch that wore well with the dive extension link removed, and the bracelet is definitely a big improvement. There was something about the look of it however that I could not just get used to. Maybe it was the ceramic bezel which made the watch just a little 'too shiney'. I ended up moving it on and continuing with my 16600s. Who knows though......might still ending up going back to one some day?

[Atomant]

Originally Posted by versatile1

Everyone was so pumped on the sea dweller 4000 when it was introduced at Basel last year and now it seems to have drifted under the radar
Is the hype over?
Thoughts?

Isn't this always been the case with the SeaDweller Range? With the exception of the deepsea of course.

[travisb]

Great reference! I'm currently flirting with one.

[Mezz72]

for me the difference is just usd900 over a 116610 and I don't like the 116610 lugs anyways.
already have a 16610 btw so it was an easy choice for me.

[Blackdog]

The SD will never be as good a seller as the Subs. It was not made to be either. It was the same with the previous generations.

Like it was said already, it's a niche watch. It's more expensive than the Subs, not as comfortable and the extra features you get are hardly needed by anyone.

It's clear that the steady fan base of the SD is much smaller, either people looking for the extra-sturdiness of the model, or just because it is not the "obvious" Sub. Me, I like it for both of those reasons, but the price difference is significant.

I don't own an SDC, I actually chose a Z-16600 instead, because I like the older case styling better and prefer the old style bracelet.

Before the SD I wore a Sub for 25 years. A Tudor 79090 on a 93150 bracelet first and a 16610 on the same type of bracelet later. When I changed to the SD I immediately noticed that it was not as comfortable than my older Subs. The SD is taller on the wrist and is heavier.

For a while I thought I had made a mistake. But in a matter of a week it felt great on the wrist and I would not go back now. In my mind the truth is simple, the SD(C or old) is not a Sub for everyone.

So after the novelty factor of the new introduction has faded things might be just going back to nominal.

[vette boy 52]

I have the older model and have tried on the new Seadweller 4000 and was not impressed. I keep the older one which has appreciated

[Racerdj]

Honeymoons always end, some sooner than others.

[Ferdelious]

I hope the Honeymoon is over, then comes a huge fight and a quick divorce so Rolex will stop making it and in 30 years mine will be worth 4 times!

[JJL]

I still think it's a phenomenal piece, however, whenever something brand new is introduced it will always have more hype around it for the first several months compared to year(s) down the road.

I feel the same happened to the GMT BLNR. People were going bananas over the bi color ceramic bezel, but a couple years later the hype has died down. BUT that doesn't mean that they both aren't incredible, desirable pieces.

[El Cascarrabias]

I own one watch. It's a Rolex . . . and it's a Sea DwellerC.

Could not care less if honeymoon's over. I'm in it for the long haul!

[Maxy]

Not sure if its right to post the link here. But Jomashop is having a sale on this watch.. $8,360.00 and no tax. That's around 20% off.

http://www.jomashop.com/rolex-watch-116600bkso.html

[JohnFM]

I've got an older F serial but love the new one. Without a doubt, the 116600 is my favorite current Rolex -- a future classic. Thick, yes, and a niche watch, yes, but still beautifully proportioned and ... timeless. I could see a simpler bezel but am fine with it, as is. The price decline is normal, as is the lack of attention, with Basel around the corner.

I can see how many would have preferred 42 mm but I'm happy Rolex left it at 40 mm, showing some regard for history and for the fact that watches are too damn big now. And the rent is too damn high!

[Heo2]

Originally Posted by Maxy

Not sure if its right to post the link here. But Jomashop is having a sale on this watch.. $8,360.00 and no tax. That's around 20% off.

http://www.jomashop.com/rolex-watch-116600bkso.html

You sure? That link is showing $8995.

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by Heo2

You sure? That link is showing $8995.

Yes

[Mastergreenhand]

Originally Posted by Maxy

Yes

Problem is if you buy from Joma you don't get the Rolex warranty. You get Joma's 2 year warranty. Not a big fan of that.

[Ritch99]

I totally agree with SC11, for those that want it, price is irrelevant. Those that have to budget and pick something within their budget, the choice will be that...a choice. I personally feel that it is the logical modern evolution of the Sea Dweller and therefore perfect. So, I bought one. I have both sub C's the DSSD, SD4K and a hulk. They are all beautiful in my book. I rotate based on how I feel that day. I absolutely do not have any issues with the price tag. Maybe the honeymoon is over, buy the love affair grows everyday. I love the watch...as is.

[mike]

I think it's important to remember the general WIS community is different than the buyer looking to make a statement. If that statement can be made at a cheaper price point that will win in most cases.

I do agree that had the watch been made in 42mm perhaps things would be different.

[Brian Page]

Originally Posted by strafer_kid

I picked up the SD4000 fairly soon after its release as I am a big Seadweller fan. It is undoubtedly a fantastic watch that wore well with the dive extension link removed, and the bracelet is definitely a big improvement. There was something about the look of it however that I could not just get used to. Maybe it was the ceramic bezel which made the watch just a little 'too shiney'. I ended up moving it on and continuing with my 16600s. Who knows though......might still ending up going back to one some day?

I couldn't have written it better myself - exactly my experience

[Lew Archer]

Lately, it's become my daily watch. If I've been wearing something else...say a 36mm OP, I notice the weight difference. Not for long, though. At first it's noticeable, but then you get used to the feel of the watch.

It's my favorite of the current Rolex dive watches, largely due to the lugs, giving it a more traditional look.

I enjoy the crisp movement of the ceramic bezel. The matte dial distinguishes it from my Submariner 14060M.

A date feature is handy. I love the clean unobstructed dial of the 14060M. The Sea-Dweller offers a less prominent date complication than the Submariner Date due to the absence of the Cyclops feature.

In all, a great watch, rugged and handsome. And handy, too.

Count me a fan...

[Dr. Robert]

If it had lug holes......body parts would've been sold & id have it! IMHO best new sport Rolex.

[Degas]

Originally Posted by El Cascarrabias

I own one watch. It's a Rolex . . . and it's a Sea DwellerC.

Could not care less if honeymoon's over. I'm in it for the long haul!

Great pic!

[Andad]

I also have the old model but if I had to decide between them today I might buy the new model for the bracelet, maxi dial and the ceramic bezel.

[Evad3]

I would have liked the SD4K but couldn't justify to myself the premium over the 114060 (Funds were limited and the extra £2,000 can go towards my next piece!)

[redsubby]

If I didn't have a DSSD, I would own this piece.

[dlubix]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Well...the honeymoon is always going to end...but the watch is here to stay.

Fit of new one is much, much better.