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AK797 · 17 July 2015, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ S

At this price point, date windows and wheels should be correctly oriented – sorry, but as much as the rest is very nice, the date feature drags it down, and shows complete laziness and cheapness in design.
If Seiko can do it on sub $2K Anantas, as can some micro-brands, then there's no excuse for it from AP.

If you're going to seriously consider switching from a Daytona, do yourself a favour and look at the VC Overseas Chronograph, with its big date at 12.

Whoa, there! Gotta strongly disagree, a centred date for some may be preferable but the VCO's date is overlarge and squashes down the VC logo, not cool with me at all. Much prefer the ROC's small subtle date.

PJ S · 17 July 2015, 11:18 PM

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one then – I much prefer when form and function work synergistically rather than form dominating function.
I could live with the logo branding being a tad smaller than on the regular Overseas, as the date is the more important feature of the two.

And what I meant when highlighting Seiko's ability to orient the numbers on the date wheel

Anyway, OP if you decide on the AP ROC, I'm sure you'll be a happy camper, even with a skewiff date window.

Snow-Dweller · 17 July 2015, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemarp

Once you notice the non-symmetrical dial of the current Daytona, you can never unsee it.

Please elaborate...

Snow-Dweller · 17 July 2015, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ S

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one then – I much prefer when form and function work synergistically rather than form dominating function.
I could live with the logo branding being a tad smaller than on the regular Overseas, as the date is the more important feature of the two.

And what I meant when highlighting Seiko's ability to orient the numbers on the date wheel

Anyway, OP if you decide on the AP ROC, I'm sure you'll be a happy camper, even with a skewiff date window.

I love the ROC, but have to agree with you about the orientation of the date.

Abdullasaif · 18 July 2015, 04:48 AM

I've tried a ROC blue dial and no Daytona can beat it

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GB-man · 18 July 2015, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Abdullasaif

I've tried a ROC blue dial and no Daytona can beat it

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Cough

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Sorry for the oversized shot gents.

Abdullasaif · 18 July 2015, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Cough

Not fair that's a tank at a knife fight😆

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NoVaSubowner · 18 July 2015, 06:23 AM

I really would love to tell you to go for the Daytona and save yourself 7-9k...

But, in all conscience, I can't. I would be lying. And that would not be right.

If you can swing the extra $$$ go for the AP. It is in a class by itself.

Lemarp · 18 July 2015, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Clivek

Please elaborate...

The two top subdials are skewed up closer to the 10 and 2 on the current model.

Snow-Dweller · 18 July 2015, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemarp

The two top subdials are skewed up closer to the 10 and 2 on the current model.

Ok...I've looked again and can see what you're getting at. I've never noticed this before, and so would not say that it bothers me personally. I (briefly) owned a 116520 but this was not one of the many reasons why I didn't love it.

AK797 · 18 July 2015, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Abdullasaif

Not fair that's a tank at a knife fight��

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Yeah, Sean!

VICI · 18 July 2015, 12:19 PM

AP all the way!

Just look at the bracelet - it doesn't compare 🙈

Left wrist · 18 July 2015, 12:30 PM

the date function drives me crazy on my G series diver.. it sits a little low and really drives me nuts... that said. back to your predicament... hmm, AP ROC or DAYTONA.. tough life lol. AP if you dont mind the extra cash.. most importantly go through a solid trusted seller on here, you'll only end up spending a few extra K over the daytona and save a few K from the AD. I'd also see if you can pick up a rubber strap like on the italy special edition - probably around 600 bucks at AD and totally worth it! two watches in one!!!!!! thats my humble opinion...

Hairdude1 · 18 July 2015, 12:35 PM

AP all day! Go for it!

jdkrut · 19 July 2015, 12:48 AM

The AP is so much nicer. If you go onto Hodinkee at http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/audemar...nograph-review, you will understand that there really is no comparison -- AP ROC is superior hands down.

locutus49 · 19 July 2015, 01:08 AM

I prefer the Nautilus but you can't beat the price of a gold AP.

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Originally Posted by jdkrut

The AP is so much nicer. If you go onto Hodinkee at http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/audemar...nograph-review, you will understand that there really is no comparison -- AP ROC is superior hands down.

waisoserious · 19 July 2015, 01:50 AM

I have both. a black daytona and a white AP ROC

Im very fond of both. Id say the daytona is easier to wear and is much lighter. the bracelet is also more comfortable imo.

The AP bracelet feels too......tight. Maybe its my wrist size but Im at the point where I cant go up or down a link without it feeling excessively tight or loose. which has caused me to order the plots leather strap and deployment clasp from my AD. I also dislike the double deployment clasp design. I would rather have a traditional single deployment for easier 1 hand use.

Im gonna share something with you though. If I could go back, I wouldnt have bought my 26320. I would have bought a 26300 Panda Dial. In fact, if there was a 26300 Panda Dial in Taiwan, I would trade my 26320 for it, straight up. The only reason I have the 26320 was because I couldnt find a 26300 Panda Dial in my country, and I was not willing to buy a 2nd hand watch that I couldnt inspect in person before paying for it.

Left wrist · 19 July 2015, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Whoa, there! Gotta strongly disagree, a centred date for some may be preferable but the VCO's date is overlarge and squashes down the VC logo, not cool with me at all. Much prefer the ROC's small subtle date.

my date wheel on the diver is a little low which bothers me...

locutus49 · 19 July 2015, 04:46 AM

I don't see the need for a date on a chronograph, but that is just me. I'm retired, and don't care what date it is.

GarageBMW · 19 July 2015, 05:30 AM

I also compared both side by side last week while at my AD. The AP stands out quite a lot compared to the Daytona. I know a lot would pick the Daytona for the exclusivity and history but I would pick the AP any day of the week and twice on Sunday. It is really an amazing piece.

Good luck!

PJ S · 19 July 2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by waisoserious

The AP bracelet feels too......tight. Maybe its my wrist size but Im at the point where I cant go up or down a link without it feeling excessively tight or loose.

Are you aware that they do a 1.5 link?
That might resolve your fitting issue.

waisoserious · 19 July 2015, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PJ S

Are you aware that they do a 1.5 link?
That might resolve your fitting issue.

No actually I was not aware. Thanks for telling me!

Andad · 19 July 2015, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by locutus49

I don't see the need for a date on a chronograph, but that is just me. I'm retired, and don't care what date it is.

Nice.

I tried one for size.

A spectacular Rolex..

But my SS is a keeper.

Snow-Dweller · 19 July 2015, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by waisoserious

No actually I was not aware. Thanks for telling me!

I use the 1.5 link in the summer, and go down to the normal size link in the winter.

jjnd08 · 20 July 2015, 09:34 AM

Which AD were you at in Dallas? Eiseman should have a white dial Daytona soon; I sold them mine at the beginning of July. I know they send in new watches for a service.

I would go with VC over the AP, as I too don't like the date display on the AP. Depending on what else you have, I would also consider the Glashutte Seventies Chrono - very beautifully and technically sound.

But I would take the AP over the Daytona. I love the details and fit of the AP.

el1125 · 20 July 2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gummy

Get the ROC...

You'll love it. My modern daytonas have an inch of dust on them since I got this.

sorry old pic

Thomas that looks fantastic! Amazing picture

el1125 · 20 July 2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by locutus49

I don't see the need for a date on a chronograph, but that is just me. I'm retired, and don't care what date it is.

Fantastic watch. I love the watch and wore mine today. IMO the pinnacle of modern rolex. 👍👏

gummy · 21 July 2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

Love that shot Thomas!

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Originally Posted by HL65

Great shot Thomas...Love it!

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Originally Posted by el1125

Thomas that looks fantastic! Amazing picture

Thanks Guys...

Also for OP The Hunter

I'm about 7.25" wrist and I have to say I find the ROC super comfy - as others have said AP all day!

Now, let's see that incoming thread

18 July 2015, 12:35 PM	#44
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20 July 2015, 09:34 AM	#55
jjnd08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 8,615	Which AD were you at in Dallas? Eiseman should have a white dial Daytona soon; I sold them mine at the beginning of July. I know they send in new watches for a service. I would go with VC over the AP, as I too don't like the date display on the AP. Depending on what else you have, I would also consider the Glashutte Seventies Chrono - very beautifully and technically sound. But I would take the AP over the Daytona. I love the details and fit of the AP. __________________ ---------------------- Instagram: watchesandchickensandwiches

17 July 2015, 11:18 PM	#32
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	We'll have to agree to disagree on that one then – I much prefer when form and function work synergistically rather than form dominating function. I could live with the logo branding being a tad smaller than on the regular Overseas, as the date is the more important feature of the two. And what I meant when highlighting Seiko's ability to orient the numbers on the date wheel Anyway, OP if you decide on the AP ROC, I'm sure you'll be a happy camper, even with a skewiff date window.

18 July 2015, 04:48 AM	#35
Abdullasaif "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Dubai Watch: bipolar Posts: 2,854	I've tried a ROC blue dial and no Daytona can beat it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 July 2015, 06:23 AM	#38
NoVaSubowner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Alexandria, VA Watch: Love them. Posts: 1,097	I really would love to tell you to go for the Daytona and save yourself 7-9k... But, in all conscience, I can't. I would be lying. And that would not be right. If you can swing the extra $$$ go for the AP. It is in a class by itself.

18 July 2015, 12:19 PM	#42
VICI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Gotham City Watch: IG: Mr_Right_NYC Posts: 5,672	AP all the way! Just look at the bracelet - it doesn't compare 🙈

18 July 2015, 12:30 PM	#43
Left wrist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Aaron Location: NYC Watch: AP PATEK PAM ROLEX Posts: 523	the date function drives me crazy on my G series diver.. it sits a little low and really drives me nuts... that said. back to your predicament... hmm, AP ROC or DAYTONA.. tough life lol. AP if you dont mind the extra cash.. most importantly go through a solid trusted seller on here, you'll only end up spending a few extra K over the daytona and save a few K from the AD. I'd also see if you can pick up a rubber strap like on the italy special edition - probably around 600 bucks at AD and totally worth it! two watches in one!!!!!! thats my humble opinion...

19 July 2015, 12:48 AM	#45
jdkrut "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Josh Location: Florida Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 156	The AP is so much nicer. If you go onto Hodinkee at http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/audemar...nograph-review, you will understand that there really is no comparison -- AP ROC is superior hands down.

19 July 2015, 01:50 AM	#47
waisoserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Taiwan Watch: 116515LN, 126621 Posts: 180	I have both. a black daytona and a white AP ROC Im very fond of both. Id say the daytona is easier to wear and is much lighter. the bracelet is also more comfortable imo. The AP bracelet feels too......tight. Maybe its my wrist size but Im at the point where I cant go up or down a link without it feeling excessively tight or loose. which has caused me to order the plots leather strap and deployment clasp from my AD. I also dislike the double deployment clasp design. I would rather have a traditional single deployment for easier 1 hand use. Im gonna share something with you though. If I could go back, I wouldnt have bought my 26320. I would have bought a 26300 Panda Dial. In fact, if there was a 26300 Panda Dial in Taiwan, I would trade my 26320 for it, straight up. The only reason I have the 26320 was because I couldnt find a 26300 Panda Dial in my country, and I was not willing to buy a 2nd hand watch that I couldnt inspect in person before paying for it.

19 July 2015, 04:46 AM	#49
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,193	I don't see the need for a date on a chronograph, but that is just me. I'm retired, and don't care what date it is.

19 July 2015, 05:30 AM	#50
GarageBMW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Third Degree Location: Glenfinnan Watch: the step Posts: 1,901	I also compared both side by side last week while at my AD. The AP stands out quite a lot compared to the Daytona. I know a lot would pick the Daytona for the exclusivity and history but I would pick the AP any day of the week and twice on Sunday. It is really an amazing piece. Good luck!

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