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T. Ferguson · 27 July 2015, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by liuk3

How much does it cost to get your watch pressure tested?

It's cheap, $10-$20. If your AD has the capability he may not charge you at all.

liuk3 · 28 July 2015, 02:13 PM

Cool. Thanks!

Brian Page · 28 July 2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chris333

Exactly. I doubt it broke. It likely popped out. With the 14060M however, you should be fine, as the bars are shoulderless.

If they are the original spring bars -

Brian Page · 28 July 2015, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleinfive

With all these interesting theories of how a spring bar can fail, is it even safe to wear a Rolex with NATO straps?

Yes - 100% if set up correctly, I dive all the time, sometimes with NATO sometimes bracelet. Check your gear out and you won't have trouble.

subtona · 28 July 2015, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

A NATO, or any other strap can be wiggled back and forth with the friction holding the spring-bar center and collapsing it.. It is more difficult with the older pierced lugs and proper bars, which the 114060 does not have. Many stories of a NATO "saving" their watch are probably because of this action - it is even more likely to happen when wet. When spring bars are used on a bracelet the ends will have to physically shear off and that shear force would be tremendous.

When NATO's were issued, they were issued for watches that had welded bars that would never come out.

Don't get a NATO because you think it is safer, get it because you like the heritage and the look.

excellent info

Brauner Hund · 29 July 2015, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gliderguy

I have worn my previous sub for 10 years almost exclusively on NATO and never had a problem,always with the original spring bar. Lately I got shoulderless spring bars which I will have to cut to take out but these are less likely to come out.

Do you have the spec for the shoulderless bars you fitted (I just received some bars ordered online - and have just learnt that I need 0.9mm diameter pin ends - the old fashioned ones are 1.2mm. Bloomin frustrating! :)

Brauner Hund · 31 July 2015, 06:32 AM

If there's a 'proper' bar available I'd be grateful for the info.
Meanwhile, in order to spend a day in the sea today wearing a nylon strap without worrying about the spring bars opening themselves, I popped in to town yesterday and picked up some shoulderless 20mm lugs; some pics for any who may be interested:

The 'no lug hole' design relies on the end links to support the risible smaller diameter pins:

Shoulder compared with no shoulder:

First fitted:

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Brauner Hund "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: UK Posts: 119	If there's a 'proper' bar available I'd be grateful for the info. Meanwhile, in order to spend a day in the sea today wearing a nylon strap without worrying about the spring bars opening themselves, I popped in to town yesterday and picked up some shoulderless 20mm lugs; some pics for any who may be interested: The 'no lug hole' design relies on the end links to support the risible smaller diameter pins: Shoulder compared with no shoulder: First fitted: Sorted:

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