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lee fowler · 9 November 2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBardo

Right, but is the one in the auction a rare model? That's kinda what I'm trying to figure out. Mine is just a generic 1675 from 1968. Here's a photo to give you an example of what I am comparing it to:

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The dial was replaced in the 80s... so I can certainly understand that that reduces the value. But he seemed to indicate even if it was original, that it probably would be on the upper end of $5-10k. What am I missing? How is mine different? Is it just the gilt?

That looks to be a Mk1 long E dial which would be correct for a 1968 GMT.

QueueCumber · 9 November 2015, 06:55 PM

The Internet is filled with folks who think that vintage Rolex should only be worth what they paid 10 years ago...

Vincent65 · 9 November 2015, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by QueueCumber

The Internet is filled with folks who think that vintage Rolex should only be worth what they paid 10 years ago...

And now it's also full of people who think that they can realise the latest top auction-result prices. Good luck with that...

QueueCumber · 9 November 2015, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent65

And now it's also full of people who think that they can realise the latest top auction-result prices. Good luck with that...

Sorry to have dashed your dreams of owning more of the gilt vintage Rolex pieces Vincent. You can always start collecting Heuers now...

Vincent65 · 10 November 2015, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Sorry to have dashed your dreams of owning more of the gilt vintage Rolex pieces Vincent. You can always start collecting Heuers now...

You haven't dashed anything, Q. If I want another gilt vintage Rolex, I can just about manage that, I reckon

I've always loved vintage Heuer too, actually! I inherited a nice gilt-dialed one in 1980 from an uncle (circa 1942).

QueueCumber · 10 November 2015, 12:14 AM

It's a gorgeous piece, Vincent.

I still have a few Heuers. I miss that Tachy dial 3rd execution piece.

Vincent65 · 10 November 2015, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by QueueCumber

It's a gorgeous piece, Vincent.

I still have a few Heuers. I miss that Tachy dial 3rd execution piece.

Thanks mate.

While we're on the subject, I do fancy another vintage gilt Rolex, but it has to be just right. Maybe I'll look for a '65 Sub or GMT some day.

QueueCumber · 10 November 2015, 12:28 AM

4-line 5512 would be my top choice for that year.

Vincent65 · 10 November 2015, 12:36 AM

Yes, I do like those very much.

gelroy · 10 November 2015, 07:01 AM

Lot 144 -> "Fuerza Aerea del Perú"

So compared to other FAP results in the past this Lot is not expensive.

cajuntiger · 10 November 2015, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gelroy

Lot 144 -> "Fuerza Aerea del Perú"

So compared to other FAP results in the past this Lot is not expensive.

Didn't notice that, that would help explain the final price.

jfmiii · 10 November 2015, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cajuntiger

Didn't notice that, that would help explain the final price.

i also didnt notice that. that being said lot 103...the '67 1675...is the real head scratcher at $37k.

dpa94114 · 10 November 2015, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jfmiii

i also didnt notice that. that being said lot 103...the '67 1675...is the real head scratcher at $37k.

I missed the early part of the auction, but especially on relatively low dollar battles...it's all about peacocks trying to out-do each other in front of the crowd. The auctioneers are BRILLIANT at poking and prodding them.

When a steel Patek can have an estimate of $100-250K and sell for $1M, those overbidding on a GMT are amateurs.

morafa4 · 10 November 2015, 11:34 AM

Weird. I read that Lot Description about three times yesterday, and I didnt see that...

Edit: Actually, I know I'm gonna stand alone on this one, but I'm 100% sure the "Catalogue Essay" was edited or rewritten. It made reference to "Silver text" earlier, which I mentioned in an earlier post above, and I distinctly remember them using the term "glossy" dial.. It's now being described as a lacquered dial, and neither of those phrases are anywhere to be found. And of course, the Fuerza Area del Peru bit wasn't there. Weird, weird, weird.

shawndww · 10 November 2015, 12:34 PM

What about the Stella's holy cow time to clean up this old bird. Daily beaters take on a new price tag :)

lee fowler · 10 November 2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by morafa4

Weird. I read that Lot Description about three times yesterday, and I didnt see that...

Edit: Actually, I know I'm gonna stand alone on this one, but I'm 100% sure the "Catalogue Essay" was edited or rewritten. It made reference to "Silver text" earlier, which I mentioned in an earlier post above, and I distinctly remember them using the term "glossy" dial.. It's now being described as a lacquered dial, and neither of those phrases are anywhere to be found. And of course, the Fuerza Area del Peru bit wasn't there. Weird, weird, weird.

Think you are getting confused, Lot 103 has the "silvered text" comment while lot 144 is the FAP.

QueueCumber · 10 November 2015, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by morafa4

Weird. I read that Lot Description about three times yesterday, and I didnt see that...

Edit: Actually, I know I'm gonna stand alone on this one, but I'm 100% sure the "Catalogue Essay" was edited or rewritten. It made reference to "Silver text" earlier, which I mentioned in an earlier post above, and I distinctly remember them using the term "glossy" dial.. It's now being described as a lacquered dial, and neither of those phrases are anywhere to be found. And of course, the Fuerza Area del Peru bit wasn't there. Weird, weird, weird.

This can mean only one thing: There is a mole in this thread planted by the Phillips Auction House. We need to figure out who it is and take care of him or her.

morafa4 · 10 November 2015, 10:31 PM

Sometimes the simplest explanation... is the best one. I got the lots mixed up

Let me wear my tinfoil hat in peace, Q!

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Originally Posted by QueueCumber

This can mean only one thing: There is a mole in this thread planted by the Phillips Auction House. We need to figure out who it is and take care of him or her.

jban5 · 11 November 2015, 02:01 AM

So, can anyone share an opinion or the facts on the "silvered text" reference? Was that something that was special ordered, or just randomly done or even a purposeful variation?

QueueCumber · 11 November 2015, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by morafa4

Sometimes the simplest explanation... is the best one. I got the lots mixed up

Let me wear my tinfoil hat in peace, Q!

Occam's razor is boring. It's much more fun to throw virgins into volcanos....

9 November 2015, 06:55 PM	#32
QueueCumber "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Q Location: The Q Continuum Watch: ST:TNG Posts: 8,466	The Internet is filled with folks who think that vintage Rolex should only be worth what they paid 10 years ago... __________________ Instagram: _queuecumber_

10 November 2015, 12:14 AM	#36
QueueCumber "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Q Location: The Q Continuum Watch: ST:TNG Posts: 8,466	It's a gorgeous piece, Vincent. I still have a few Heuers. I miss that Tachy dial 3rd execution piece. __________________ Instagram: _queuecumber_

10 November 2015, 12:28 AM	#38
QueueCumber "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Q Location: The Q Continuum Watch: ST:TNG Posts: 8,466	4-line 5512 would be my top choice for that year. __________________ Instagram: _queuecumber_

10 November 2015, 12:36 AM	#39
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	Yes, I do like those very much. __________________

10 November 2015, 07:01 AM	#40
gelroy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: London Posts: 31	Lot 144 -> "Fuerza Aerea del Perú" So compared to other FAP results in the past this Lot is not expensive.

10 November 2015, 11:34 AM	#44
morafa4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Alexander Location: New York, NY Watch: 16610, 1675, Cx Posts: 165	Weird. I read that Lot Description about three times yesterday, and I didnt see that... Edit: Actually, I know I'm gonna stand alone on this one, but I'm 100% sure the "Catalogue Essay" was edited or rewritten. It made reference to "Silver text" earlier, which I mentioned in an earlier post above, and I distinctly remember them using the term "glossy" dial.. It's now being described as a lacquered dial, and neither of those phrases are anywhere to be found. And of course, the Fuerza Area del Peru bit wasn't there. Weird, weird, weird.

11 November 2015, 02:01 AM	#49
jban5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Watch: 5513~1675x2~1680~ Posts: 523	So, can anyone share an opinion or the facts on the "silvered text" reference? Was that something that was special ordered, or just randomly done or even a purposeful variation?

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