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Old 22 March 2016, 12:37 PM   #31
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Rolex can make as many DaytonaC's as they want. Higher Volume means more profits. Don't assume that just because the previous SS was marketed as a rarity that the Ceramic version in the current soft market will be sold the same way.


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Wishful thinking...however highly unlikely...

I can remember years ago when the Stainless Daytona was nearly impossible to acquire. This reference will likely not be easy to source for the first year or so... and they will DEFNITLEY pull a premium elsewhere...

just my .02
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Old 22 March 2016, 01:10 PM   #32
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Rolex can make as many DaytonaC's as they want. Higher Volume means more profits. Don't assume that just because the previous SS was marketed as a rarity that the Ceramic version in the current soft market will be sold the same way.

The only ones who benefit from rolex restricting AD allotments will be the 'grey' dealers.

Rolex is also under NEW management than the last daytona release

at worst i see them releasing the daytona similar to the BLNR. So what this means for example is this.....a prominent Toronto AD receives 2 SS daytonas per month right now, 1 116610LV per month and 1 BLNR per month...

so chances are this AD will receive between 12-24 SS daytonas per year.....thats not exactly flooding the market but at the same time its not really 'restricting' access......after the first year of sales i expect anyone could pick up a ceramic daytona pretty easily grey or AD
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Old 22 March 2016, 01:46 PM   #33
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It won't be that hard to get.... from an AD yeah if you're not on the list but come this time next year. If you want one, you'll be able to get one.
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Old 22 March 2016, 06:24 PM   #34
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My two cents....both black and white will be hard to get for quite some time
Despite what most people are being told and your alleged position on any list your AD will sell the watches to their best clients first not to someone who calls around, has no relationship with them and says hey I want a watch please put my name down....please!
If a big AD gets 2 daytonas per month why would Rolex increase supply when the AD can sell other models and upsell the much higher margin precious metal versions.
I will probably get flamed but this is how I see it.
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Old 22 March 2016, 06:59 PM   #35
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With this much demand for the new ceraminc bezel model, I wonder whether the price of the normal, S/S bezel version will soften?
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Old 22 March 2016, 07:04 PM   #36
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My two cents....both black and white will be hard to get for quite some time
Despite what most people are being told and your alleged position on any list your AD will sell the watches to their best clients first not to someone who calls around, has no relationship with them and says hey I want a watch please put my name down....please!
If a big AD gets 2 daytonas per month why would Rolex increase supply when the AD can sell other models and upsell the much higher margin precious metal versions.
I will probably get flamed but this is how I see it.
I reckon many - though probably not all - ADs will sell to the highest bidder, even if this is not allowed.

I don't know what the practice is in the US, UK and elsewhere but in Singapore, ADs who do this simply issue a receipt for "A Rolex Watch'' with no details of model number. This is to avoid them getting into trouble if a buyer was to show the receipt to Rolex.

Of course you get the correct warranty paperwork but the receipt when the buyer pays a premium to cut the queue doesn't state model number.

It'll certainly be interesting to see how much of a premium this watch will command.
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Old 22 March 2016, 07:41 PM   #37
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With this update to the ss models Rolex have listened to what people have been asking for and provided it.

It makes no business sense for them to artificially restrict supply.
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Old 22 March 2016, 07:43 PM   #38
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They artificially restrict supply to justify £8,250 for a stainless steel watch. That's the same price as a two tone in another model remember. Must be Rolexes most profitable model.
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Old 22 March 2016, 08:25 PM   #39
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I gave up calling AD's by the following day they all had long lists and talking same BS, will have to go grey and pay a premium
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Old 22 March 2016, 09:31 PM   #40
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Thanks for the input all. I guess all I(we) can really do is wait and see how things pan out. I think I just got caught up on all the excitement and felt I was left out not being on an AD wait list.

I still do want one in black! I'll be traveling a little bit tail end of this year to Portugal, England, France, and possibly Asia, so I'll see what's available abroad when the time comes.

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Old 22 March 2016, 11:26 PM   #41
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I don't think the DaytonaC will be that difficult to get after some time. Somehow I think Rolex will make them more available so as to not leave any money on the table. Any markups over MSRP doesn't benefit Rolex.
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Perfect scenario for Rolex would be to raise MSRP to $14k by the time of release and in great abundance - everyone who wants one will get one. Leave no money on the table this way and grey can not get in between. What a home run way to welcome in a new CEO in a tough global economy!
Yes, I do think the price is pretty low, with a ceramic bezel they could have charged 15-20% more and still sold out easily, so it does make me think these will not be in as short supply as the previous model. Lower margin but higher supply. Low margin, low supply would be a strange strategy and I don't think they are going for the "rare and exclusive" spiel again, with the internet and social media we are all a bit too wise for that now and they know it is the resellers who will make the biggest margin and benefit the most.
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Old 22 March 2016, 11:30 PM   #42
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it will be fun to see what happens because many want the ceramic for the bezel and MANY want the watch because of its potential rareness exclusiveness...

methinks many will be dissapointed if daytona ceramics are easily obtainable because truthfully it will nullify the 'list'

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Old 23 March 2016, 12:24 AM   #43
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Old 23 March 2016, 02:22 AM   #44
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Interesting read, I'm glad I don't want a Daytona . “So, You Want a New Ceramic Daytona?” via @watchville
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Old 23 March 2016, 02:36 AM   #45
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Yup. Davidsw just said exactly what I was saying all along regarding the 'list' and dealer allocation of 2 per month!!!
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Old 23 March 2016, 03:40 AM   #46
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I will wait not until the next Basel, by that time it would died down abit. After all patience is a virtue.🕰
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Old 23 March 2016, 04:08 AM   #47
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Old 23 March 2016, 04:14 AM   #48
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Thanks for the input all. I guess all I(we) can really do is wait and see how things pan out. I think I just got caught up on all the excitement and felt I was left out not being on an AD wait list.

I still do want one in black! I'll be traveling a little bit tail end of this year to Portugal, England, France, and possibly Asia, so I'll see what's available abroad when the time comes.

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Dont count out the trusted sellers on the forum either...you're likely to get one more quickly through them...may cost more early on, but the prices will settle as soon as they hit the wider market.
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Old 23 March 2016, 06:24 AM   #49
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people need to realize that this new version of the daytona will be around for a long long time.....not sure why many feel the need to be the first.....so whether you get the first one or 300th one who cares
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Old 23 March 2016, 06:37 AM   #50
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It will be a while before we see any daytona-c for lower than an AD price. I have a feeling that the trusted sellers on here are going to sell them for more than an AD price due to no wait list time.
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Old 23 March 2016, 07:11 AM   #51
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The question is, how quickly do we expect Rolex to raise MSRP on Daytona C?
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Old 23 March 2016, 07:17 AM   #52
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I'm not on any list either...but I'm betting I can get one. If I want it.
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Old 23 March 2016, 07:21 AM   #53
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I have a local dealer that I have never done business with. I have always been in to talk watches. On the day of announcement, he left voicemail telling me he has found the watch for me, but it may be a few months. It happens to be the black ceramic and I think he is right. I couldn't believe he thought of me as his first customer. He is not a huge dealer, but does generally have a nice selection of pieces soon after release.
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Old 23 March 2016, 07:29 AM   #54
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if i was an AD and someone put their name on the 'list' and than did not buy i would make sure these same folk were never allowed on the 'list' again....

i know some have said ADs will not take deposit but they should...non-refundable deposits

that would weed out the contenders from the pretenders
Nah, the reality is that a 50 person list becomes a 15-30 person list and goes much faster than you think. Lots of people don't pull the trigger when its their turn. Some because they already bought the watch somewhere else, some because it might have become a bad time financially, who knows why...

I was on a 10 person list a few years back and in reality I got the second watch because only #1 made the purchase. #2-9 backed out for one of the above reasons. It's all good.
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Old 23 March 2016, 07:44 AM   #55
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Nah, the reality is that a 50 person list becomes a 15-30 person list and goes much faster than you think. Lots of people don't pull the trigger when its their turn. Some because they already bought the watch somewhere else, some because it might have become a bad time financially, who knows why...

I was on a 10 person list a few years back and in reality I got the second watch because only #1 made the purchase. #2-9 backed out for one of the above reasons. It's all good.

True, but I would be hard pressed to believe that there will be many if any people backing out of a waiting list on a new Daytona.. Maybe if you are 50th on the list of course lol
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I have a local dealer that I have never done business with. I have always been in to talk watches. On the day of announcement, he left voicemail telling me he has found the watch for me, but it may be a few months. It happens to be the black ceramic and I think he is right. I couldn't believe he thought of me as his first customer. He is not a huge dealer, but does generally have a nice selection of pieces soon after release.


Now that is a good dealer!
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Old 23 March 2016, 08:01 AM   #57
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it will be fun to see what happens because many want the ceramic for the bezel and MANY want the watch because of its potential rareness exclusiveness...

methinks many will be dissapointed if daytona ceramics are easily obtainable because truthfully it will nullify the 'list'

guy # 1 "hey man!!! i got the first Iphone 6s!!!!!!"

guy # 2 "who cares"

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Now that is a good dealer!
He really is a great person and I look forward to giving him great business when the day arrives.
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Old 23 March 2016, 08:04 AM   #58
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sure is gonna be fun waiting for that watch to arrive! hope you guys enjoyed the article on wound for life.
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I am no. 2 on the list - and I got a call from my AD today that they have confirmed delivery of the white dialed version ultimo April (European AD).

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