Major Shakeup coming to my collection (This Tues)

[sjladair@hotmail.co.]

Great choice. I'm considering a PF also as its all about what's on the wrist and to me they are the pinnacle of watches. I love your 2 choices. Congrats

[soundserious]

Honestly very good read. Congrats!

[WristEnvy]

Congratulations on the two beautiful pieces to start your new journey!

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[mps354]

Congrats on the shake-up, enjoy!

[Hairdude1]

Awesome pair!

[brmeyers]

Originally Posted by Dancing Fire

Congrats!, I am a fan of RG watches... Don't know much about AP.

Thanks, I agree, been really wanting a RG on rubber.

Originally Posted by toneafficianado

Great story and choices. Congrats!

Thanks Alan!

Originally Posted by incontrol

Interesting story. I really like your two choices. Huge congrats!

Thanks Kevin

Originally Posted by topcat30093

Congratulations, great way to re-start your collection.

Thanks Tony!

Originally Posted by lapince

I have one rule for watches, get what I prefer the most, don't care about any versatility, different complications and other things, tried it and didn't work...

I am in agreement with you Arnaud. Has taken me some time for this to sink in.
From now on I am only focusing on quality and what I really want the most (within my budget).
Feeling a small super high quality 3-4 piece collection will be my equilibrium point, even if models come and go.

Originally Posted by japenney

really glad that I found this post in a random forum search. And it is recent. Must have been fate. I really enjoyed reading your post.

Thanks Josh… I am glad you enjoyed it.

Originally Posted by RussW

Great story and great choice of watches. I think it's good to shake the collection up once in a while.

Thanks Russ, I have been feeling this for a couple months now. Though adding Pepsi and RG YM would balance things, but after much
thought and research, I decided to do a redo and change things up.

Originally Posted by Flex368

You certainly selected two fine references there. Will they stay for longer than one week this time?

I understand you´re a serial flipper but wouldn´t it make sense to give new incomings more than a week before flipping them for something new?

Hey Felix, LOL, I have a GOOD feeling these two will be sticking around until AT LEAST Basel 2017.
I think I am finding my inner horological voice and DNA, so moving forward I don't suspect I'll be flipping so quickly anymore.
I am finally getting better with cars, have had my 911 GTS almost a year and a half, and my X5M a year (which is good for me).
And its not as bad as it seems. The RG YM was a return to AD the next day, all stickers remained on and the extent of my wearing it
was for taking pictures. The PEPSI reference is going because honestly its a bit too flimsy for me, the power reserve is too short and it
doesn't live up to the SubCs and Ceramic Rolexes I have had. Plus I think there were issues in the one I got, so nothing against this vintage watch.
My WG Sub, lasted 10 months, my SS Daytona, 9 months and my SS Sub (before the Pepsi), I had for TWO years.
The 5711 last year was sold because of IRS issues and needing the money.
So since being on TRF, I have had 3 watches that stayed for a while and 3 that came and went quickly.
The Seven years before that, I was also about 50-50 in keeping watches a year or longer
Watches that stayed a year or longer - DSSD, TT Bluesy (twice), Sub C
Watches that came and went fast - Omega speed master, Hublot Big Bang, Exp II.
Anyway thanks for the feedback

Originally Posted by Barth

Great story, and congrats on the new collection. Two great pieces.

I agree completely with your logic of focusing on the watches you wanna wear, rather than balancing a collection with pieces you don't necessarily love. Well done !

Thanks, and I agree. Truth is i liked the WG Sub, SS Daytona and SS Sub. Pepsi not so much , but because vintage and had issues from the get-go.
But I can't say I really loved them. I jumped in a little too quick last Fall thinking I wanted a YG Sub, finding it did not look right on me so I got the WG Sub.
What I should have done is held off and researched more and not rushed into it.
Same with the SS Daytona, AD pulled from a drawer and said what he got in. I knew these watches held their value and I did and do like it, but it was also
an impulse buy.

These last two I took more time and travelled to more Ads for Rolex, AP and PP. Really researched and made sure this time.
But thanks

Originally Posted by goog53

Great story! Only thing that bothered me was reading the word Hublot. JK! Congrats on two killer pieces. The Anthracite AP is my favorite ROO as I have tried on several times and the RG 5167 is a stunner in the flesh. Pics really don't do the piece justice. Wear in good health and my guess is that you'll add a SS piece sooner than later

Thanks Mike
I agree with Hublot, that was a mistake. Though I applaud them for creating their own in house movements now. The Big bang I got had an ETA.
This was my pre-WIS years of ignorance…LOL
And I agree with Anthracite being the best looking (and also very comfortable) ROO. And 5167R really is something in the flesh, as its the ROO!

Originally Posted by PJ S

One thing I will say, apart from the usual congrats, is don't be closed minded to other brands than those you've indicated that are only of interest.
Take a serious and proper look at the likes of Girard Perregaux's Chrono Hawk, Parmigiani Pershing and Tonda, Vacheron Constantin Overseas, Bvlgari Octo, Piaget Polo, Armin Strom... I could go on, but you get the picture.

Thanks for the advice, but I have spent some time in other brands, and considered seriously the following BP FF (rose gold on strap), VC OS, IWC Ingenieur, and speedy dark side of the moon. Really don't care for Girard Perregaux bezel shape and overall design of their sport watches. Same goes for Bvlgari
The Parmigiani Pershing you referenced is nice but just doesn't move me. The Piaget Polo really rubs me the wrong way. No offense to those who like it, but its like fingernails on a chalkboard looking at it. Armin Strom dials too busy for me, at least the ones I was looking at.

ALSO looked at these brands below… I appreciate the horology in many of these and aforementioned watches, just for some
reason, I cannot get EXCITED about any of them. Either too dressy, too busy, strangely shaped bezel/case or just overall not aesthetically pleasing enough.
And I am referring to watches that are under $50,000. Some of these companies have spectacular watches that are just too much.

A Lange & Sohne - cannot say anything bad about these amazing watches, just too dressy for my tastes.
Tremendous respect. If I wanted a dress watch, would consider vs PP.
Arnold and Son -just not for me
Bovet Sportster, not for me
Breguet Type X's - not bad, didn't move me.
Breitling - has a couple a kinda like, considered a couple on rubber
Bremont sports watches, not really my cup of tea design-wise.
Cartier - not my style, but they had a couple sporty rubber I kinda liked.
Chopard - Some not bad, but just not my style.
Corum - Design doesn't work for me in general. I guess 12 sides is too many on a watch for my taste.
Daniel Roth - Seriously considered a couple of his. Resect
Ebel - not for me
Franck Muller - For a watch with a shape like this, I would get RM. But i appreciate the horology here.
Glasshutte - too dressy
Graham - don't care for crown protector design
Gucci - Looked at automatic. Not terrible.
Hublot - been there done that
Jaquet Droz sports watch collection- not bad, just not for me.
JLC - Kinda like the Master Compressor, but not enough.
Omega - just not on pair with Rolex IMHO. Had two already, don't plan on going back
Oris - too plain
Panerai - Too big and not my taste
Perrelet - Cool engineering on turbines, but just don't dig the overall aesthetics.
Roger Dubuis - Had a couple I seriously considered
Tag Heuer - not for me at all
Ulysse Nardin - Just doesn't do it for me. Some aren't bad
Urwerk - just don't get it. Appreciate the horology but design not for me.
Zenith - some nice pieces, but doesn't excite me

Anyway, I have spent a lot of time looking at many brands, though I will admit, most of my time has been looking at Rolex, PP, AP and RM.

Its not out of the question that I will get a brand outside these 4, but currently nothing else is exciting me.

But thank you for the suggestions, I am always open to looking at new watches and learning about new references


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More replies coming, just needed to break it up...

[brmeyers]

Originally Posted by conkers

Congrats!

Thanks Roger, your RM pics may be the end of me …LOL
Love all the watches you have and share here on TRF.. Just amazing

Originally Posted by HL65

Great choices and congrats! You will be back to Rolex again though...Watch! LOL

By the way the 44 Anthracite is my favorite of the 44's too and that includes the RG which I had and swapped for the Ceramic.

Thanks Ken, your pictures really helped, but seeing it in person sealed the deal. And AD really had a nice selection of ROOs, so I
had a chance to try many of the others I have seen here on TRF. I like the RG, but too heavy on my wrist and honestly like the aesthetics of the Anthracite.
My rose gold craving is satisfied nicely with the 5167R and its very comfortable too!!

I suspect you are correct, its more a matter of when than if. I love Rolex, but I am currently Rolexed out. LOL…
For the moment…
Still on the list for a Daytona C, so I guess we'll SEE/C..

Originally Posted by malarky_hk

Two great pieces. The RG Aquanaut is a stunner! Congrats.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by ap1

Thanks for sharing. That's as good a pair as any.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by 1William

I like your story and watch choices. The only thing I would add would be a ND Sub for just when ever the others don't work. I love the design and fit of the Sub. I like passion driven watch owners.

Thanks, I may consider a Sub C down the road - no date or hulk.

Originally Posted by AK797

Beautiful pair, many congrats, altho I could happily have gone for the other 2 finalists as well.

Thanks Neil! I agree with you on that… 5712 might still find its way in when more funds are available. 44rg is out for me. Love the look, but I like even
better the look AND comfort AND scratch resistance of Anthracite.

Originally Posted by HorologyK

IMO, you could easily get by with one watch forever based on your comments ... 5167.

I don't think so, I would not bring the RG aquanaut to to gym or beach. Anthracite being scratch proof will get PLENTY of wrist time! Plus its a totally different look that I love.
I have had two cars for 6 years now, 4 911s and 5 BMW X5M/X5s. Thought I could do one car and got a panamera but then ended up back with a 911 and X5M.
I guess I really need and love the variety.
Now, TWO watches, possibly. As long as I have some variety that covers my range of working out to dress casual. These two from what I can tell cover all the bases... I might put the Anthracite to the test with working out, beach, and activities.

Originally Posted by Passionata

Superb concept ,love the two finalist

Thanks!

Originally Posted by superstarmar

This !!!
While particularly our tastes evolve , those 2 models are
not my cup of tea yet ...
Congrats on your new exploration !!!

Thanks Mario, and that is the beauty of it, we can all enjoy different flavors and brands of tea.

Originally Posted by GB-man

Been there done that. Congrats on the pickups though. 44 anthracite is such a cool watch and the 5167 was a staple in my lineup for 2+ years which is like decades in my watchbox

Thanks Tom, I have a feeling these two will stick around longer than average!
For the first time, I lost sleep over upcoming arrivals and have genuine excitement about the incomings.
I feel really good about the move, even though I have been Flipper the dolphin this past year…LOL (remember that show.haha).

Originally Posted by sjladair@hotmail.co.

Great choice. I'm considering a PF also as its all about what's on the wrist and to me they are the pinnacle of watches. I love your 2 choices. Congrats

Thanks Scott

Originally Posted by soundserious

Honestly very good read. Congrats!

Thanks for the feedback, I put a fair amount of time into this post and really got me to reflect on my 8 years of collecting.

Originally Posted by WristEnvy

Congratulations on the two beautiful pieces to start your new journey!

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Thanks Ray!

Originally Posted by mps354

Congrats on the shake-up, enjoy!

Thanks Mike!

Originally Posted by Hairdude1

Awesome pair!

Thanks Alex, I agree

[TimeOnHand]

Sounds like u have really put some thought into what u like and want! Congrats on the two beautiful pieces. Wear them in good health!

[Peterandwatches]

Well played. I considated my pieces with very similar thinking. My AP and PP and Sub suit me just fine. Think you will agree too.

[kilyung]

Very nice!

[brmeyers]

Originally Posted by TimeOnHand

Sounds like u have really put some thought into what u like and want! Congrats on the two beautiful pieces. Wear them in good health!

Thanks Kevin, I will

Originally Posted by Peterandwatches

Well played. I considated my pieces with very similar thinking. My AP and PP and Sub suit me just fine. Think you will agree too.

Thanks, and a great trio of brands for sure!

Originally Posted by kilyung

Very nice!

Thanks Mike, I always love reading your posts and insights.

[Vipes]

I think you made a great decision. I also don't feel guilty about flipping to move up the horological ladder. I LOVE the 5167R. I really like how the dial is a dark metallic brown.

[PJ S]

Thanks for the comprehensive reply, Bryant.

Originally Posted by brmeyers

Really don't care for Girard Perregaux bezel shape and overall design of their sport watches.

GP has quite a few I’ve grown fond of:
Chrono Hawk (no surprise there)
Laureato, both new Ltd Edition version, and the discontinued Evo 3 (big date & moonphase).

Same goes for Bvlgari

A shame, as I think Bvlgari’s in-house design team have done a stunning job on the Octo version they created from Gerald Genta’s original design, under his own brand.

The Parmigiani Pershing you referenced is nice but just doesn't move me.

Fair enough. What about the Tonda Metrographe?

The Piaget Polo really rubs me the wrong way.

Yet to see in the metal, but the images have made it seem very appealing.

Armin Strom dials too busy for me, at least the ones I was looking at.

I thought it may’ve been a bit of a stretch, but there are certain elements (no pun intended) that have drawn me in.

Arnold and Son - just not for me

A real pity – love the Perpetual Moon and Bridge Wheel especially.

Bovet Sportster, not for me

It’s alright, but there are some others that are a tad tasty and different from the norm.

Breguet Type X's - not bad, didn't move me

Likewise.

Breitling - has a couple a kinda like, considered a couple on rubber

A brand that I’ve never taken to.

Bremont sports watches, not really my cup of tea design-wise.

Apart from the white Solo, and maybe the Supermarine 500, that’s all they have to entice me.

Cartier - not my style, but they had a couple sporty rubber I kinda liked.

Santos 100XL, and that’s it.

Chopard - Some not bad, but just not my style.

Some of the LUCs only – the regular stuff is far too cheesy.

Corum - Design doesn't work for me in general. I guess 12 sides is too many on a
watch for my taste.

Rubbish….a man can never have enough sides to stimulate his visual system and cutaneous mechanoreceptors.

Daniel Roth - Seriously considered a couple of his. Respect

Chronosprint! Big bastard, but even so.

Ebel - not for me

Don’t think I’ve seen one that has been compelling enough to give it a go.

Franck Muller - For a watch with a shape like this, I would get RM. But i appreciate the horology here.

Neither marques mentioned do the slightest thing for me, with only the slim RM getting registering more than the usual disinterested “meh”.

Glasshutte - too dressy

Whilst not quite Aquanaut sporty, the Seventies is an absolute peach of a design.
The PanoMatics, as you’ve pointed out, do lean more towards the dressier side of things – but still stonkingly good and superb value for the money.

Graham - don't care for crown protector design
Gucci - Looked at automatic. Not terrible.

Moving quickly on...

Hublot - been there done that

Classic Fusion and the forthcoming Meca-10 do it for me – the BBs I can happily forget about.

JLC - Kinda like the Master Compressor, but not enough.

Hate the crowns on the Comp, but perversely, do find a lot to admire about the Extreme LAB 2.
Just don’t put a Reverso in front of me, especially if I’ve a hammer in my hand!

Omega - just not on pair with Rolex IMHO. Had two already, don't plan on going back
Oris - too plain

Never had one – can’t say I feel I’ve missed anything.
Can’t abide the way they’ve whored out the Speedmaster with bogus Anniversary, and Limited Editions of umpteen thousand (as well as doing similar with other models).
Limited, my arse!

Panerai - Too big and not my taste

Not a problem for my 8¼” wrist, but as they all look crap, it’s purely academical.

Perrelet - Cool engineering on turbines, but just don't dig the overall aesthetics.

Love my lowly Seacraft, with its GO-style ratchet diver extension – I wonder if Swatch had a quiet word with them, and that’s why the range was discontinued only 3 years into production.
Not taken by the Turbines, which I think they’ve milked for all it’s worth, and are in danger of doing an AP, and becoming a one or two range brand, effectively.

Roger Dubuis - Had a couple I seriously considered

Excaliber and La Monegasque – now you’re talking!

Tag Heuer - not for me at all

They’re an oddity for me.
A number of dial designs really look the business, but yet I have absolutely no compunction for not getting one.

Ulysse Nardin - Just doesn't do it for me. Some aren't bad

Maxi Marine Diver – lume that’ll burn the retinas from your eyeballs, even with just a quick glance.
El Toro – just love it, and that zany Freak too.

Urwerk - just don't get it. Appreciate the horology but design not for me.

Recoiled in horror at first, but in time, I’ve grown to quite like a few of them.

Zenith - some nice pieces, but doesn't excite me

Snap!

But thank you for the suggestions, I am always open to looking at new watches and learning about new references

I’m not sure I’d fully go along with the notion of it being a sports watch, but nonetheless, you might take a look at the new Moser Pioneer – when it finally becomes a reality, later this year….apparently.
How do you feel about De Bethune? Not all are 46-48mm idiocies.

[iLLGT2]

Congrats !!! I personally wouldve reversed it and done 44 RG and 5167 steel as I have, but hey, variety and preference for each and all :)

ENJOY them, they are awesome!!!!!

[jenniferjanef]

Originally Posted by HL65

Great choices and congrats! You will be back to Rolex again though...Watch! LOL

By the way the 44 Anthracite is my favorite of the 44's too and that includes the RG which I had and swapped for the Ceramic.

Rolex...... Been around from Rolex to AP to PP to RM to MB&F to URWERK...... Still, Rolex is indispensable for me.


James

[brmeyers]

Originally Posted by PJ S

Thanks for the comprehensive reply, Bryant.

.....

I’m not sure I’d fully go along with the notion of it being a sports watch, but nonetheless, you might take a look at the new Moser Pioneer – when it finally becomes a reality, later this year….apparently.
How do you feel about De Bethune? Not all are 46-48mm idiocies.

I left out the responses because it is a long post, but I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to write these detailed replies...

Forgot that I owned a Hublot classic fusion briefly before trading for Big Bang. They do have some NEW fusions that are looking better. But still can't seem to warm up to Hublot.

There are probably several sport references in many of these brands (and others) that I still need to see in person and look into more.

Regarding your new recommendations - Not sure about the De Bethune. Just a little too out there for my tastes... At least what I am seeing. Not really that familiar with the brand.
BUT - That Moser pioneer on rubber I am digging though ... My favorite of the recommendations you have sent.
Local jeweler is an authorized Moser dealer, I'll see if they are getting any in (for curiosity). Otherwise, I remember looking at Moser and not seeing
anything that really moved me.

For now, I am sticking to my guns... AP , PP, Rolex and RM

[brmeyers]

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

Congrats !!! I personally wouldve reversed it and done 44 RG and 5167 steel as I have, but hey, variety and preference for each and all :)

ENJOY them, they are awesome!!!!!

Thanks Martin, actually was kinda leaning that way until I saw them all in person and tried them on. 44rg too heavy, and 5167 great, but love rose gold more so.
The surprise for me was really liking the look of the Anthracite over the 44rg.
I figured it would be more comfortable and of course scratch proof having ceramic case and bezel, but in person this is a stunner!!

[brmeyers]

Originally Posted by jenniferjanef

Rolex...... Been around from Rolex to AP to PP to RM to MB&F to URWERK...... Still, Rolex is indispensable for me.


James

Thanks James, I still love Rolex and I am sure a Rolex will find its way back to my collection at some point

[zapped]

Beautiful pair. Congrats! Good choices!

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by brmeyers

I left out the responses because it is a long post, but I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to write these detailed replies...

That Moser pioneer on rubber I am digging though ... My favorite of the recommendations you have sent.
Local jeweler is an authorized Moser dealer, I'll see if they are getting any in (for curiosity). Otherwise, I remember looking at Moser and not seeing
anything that really moved me.

Yeah, it is fractionally on the long side…
Good to see one of the models I’ve mentioned has resonated with you – but if you’re not careful, you might find yourself gravitating towards the much more expensive Perpetual Calendar version!

I’m surprised you feel the De Bethune is a bit too out there, especially the DB28GS – with its 6 day PR.

If you’re willing to consider something more down market, then have a look at the Eterna Royal Kontiki Chronograph, and one that may need to be a buy before you try option, is the (long since defunct) Wyler Code R Chronograph.
Can’t believe I forgot this one – Glashutte Original Sport Evo (discontinued these past 3 years, iirc)!
And I presume Linde Werdelin is out of contention due to the 46mm case and similarity with the GP Chrono Hawk?
One last one, which may not technically fit the sport description, but I think it looks just too unique to ignore, and that’s the Pierre DeRoche Royal Retro.
Oh, no…there’s still one more that may tempt you away from your “guns” – Lehmann

[RinkRolex]

Both stunning. The 5167R is so gorgeous in flesh!

Congrats!

[jschmidtdmd]

Congrats....sometimes less is more.

JPS

[BigAl72]

Congratulations and interesting story.

[Royalex]

Good choices.

[Psmith]

Congrats

[brmeyers]

Thanks everyone, officially an incoming!
Pic when I got out of my car coming back from picking it up...
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[gummy]

Originally Posted by brmeyers

A New Beginning
After much thought and reflection, countless hours on this forum, reading and watching reviews, etc...
AND having fun shopping at a couple ADs for Rolex, AP and PP,
I have decided to cash in my "All Rolex" collection for something new, something fresh. Something unexpected.

Past 8 years journey
Over the past 8 years, I have owned 9 Rolexes - 2 SS Subs, 2 TT Subs, a WG Sub, SS Daytona, Pepsi, DSSD, and a Exp II.
RG YM didn't stay long enough to count. Though you could say 10.

I still love Rolex, but I am desiring something new and fresh. Honestly, I have not been excited with my Rolexes as of late, not because I dislike Rolex, no far from it...
Its because I have been a Rolex company man for 8 years, not deviating except for 2 Omegas and a Hublot (all very short lived).

After all this I have realized a couple things
1) I don't like heavy, PM watches with PM bracelets... I like the way they look, just not how they feel on my small, awkward shaped wrists.
2) I will probably never get WG anything again.
Nobody seemed to even know I was wearing gold save the few rare WIS I bump into and meet in the wild.
(I guess the whole "stealth wealth" concept isn't for me).
3) The Sub is my favorite Rolex design followed closely by Daytona.
So down the road, very probable one of these Rolexes will come back to my collection.
4) I am not going to focus on building a collection of balanced pieces anymore.
No more thoughts like GMT, Chrono, Diver and dress. Balancing brands, colors, etc.
In fact, I am not really interested in watch "collecting". I am interested in watch "wearing".
I am just going to buy watches I really WANT to wear, look forward to wearing. and that get me excited.
As soon as they don't, I will flip them for something that does excite me.
5) I want only exceptional watches for all occasions, even going to the gym and the beach.
6) I am not into fluted bezels or traditional dress watches... the dressiest watch I would probably ever get is a 5711-1r or 5712r on a strap.
7) At this point, only 4 brands interest me - Rolex, AP, PP and RM. And only sports models. RM is down the road, not anytime soon.
8) I will probably trade and flip my watches often, just as I do my cars. I accept that about myself and will feel no guilt any longer.
Right now two watches feels right though I can see myself adding a SS bracelet watch that is comfortable later this year (like 5711/5712).
I have been wearing SS/PM bracelets nonstop for 8 years so I have no problem having two rubber strap watches now.

NEW Collection starting this Tuesday
SO, my collection is going from a WG Sub, SS Daytona, and Pepsi to:

1) PP 5167R
2) AP 26405CE (Ceramic anthracite)

I tried on most PP Aquanaut and Nautilus versions and Most AP RO and ROO models at ADs.
These are the two that together really moved me emotionally and also were very comfortable to wear.
One will work for dress (amazing how good the 5167r looks on rubber), and the AP for even more occasions as I will probably workout with it even.

The toughest choices boiled down to AP 44rg vs Ceramic anthracite and PP 5712-1a vs 5167r.
I knew I wanted actual gold on my watch, so 5167r and AP 44rg were the two finalists.
Once I wore the AP44rg and felt its heft compared to the comfort of the 5167r and AP CE, the AP CE fell into place.
Plus looking in the mirror, on me, I actually like the way it looks better (that surprised me).

Ultimately I LOVE the look and comfort of my final two choices...

So let me introduce you to my new 2 piece collection

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p.s. Had a hard time deciding which forum to post this in...
I didn't want to post in the Rolex forum, because it's a new beginning for me, and I no longer have rolexes.
I decided here, only because I have been a bit more active here than the AP forum.

Saw the Patek dock incoming...Love the AP - Congrats!

[brmeyers]

^^ Thanks Thomas, AP didn't stick, just too big and uncomfortable on my wrist.
It's a shame, because I love the way it looks.
Leaning 5712 for next one, and AP probably after that (RO, not a ROO)

[lapince]

Originally Posted by brmeyers

^^ Thanks Thomas, AP didn't stick, just too big and uncomfortable on my wrist.
It's a shame, because I love the way it looks.
Leaning 5712 for next one, and AP probably after that (RO, not a ROO)

WOW, you flipped the AP??? That's too bad, I have the CE diver and it's very comfy, maybe not as much as a 5712 or 5167 but much more than any Rolex sub c or GMT c, it's very light and comfy.

Did you give it some time to get used to it? Sometimes when I get a new style of watch, like when I got my AP, at the time I was wearing almost only a 5712 and sure it felt huge at first, but after a few days it was fine.

It's too bad but that's life, you should definitely consider the 5712, awesome watch, really comfy, and makes a great duo with your 5167R, like I said I will have the AP, 5712 and 5167R, and I have 2 other watches ordered but they will be in 2017, so I am aiming for a 5 piece collection, hope all of them will stick, for me 5 is the max and 3 is the minimum, though when I had the 5712 and the AP I was quite happy, but I wanted a third, so once October I will have 3 for some time and should be quite happy like that, I think you should be fine with a 5712, won't tell you to get a ceramic diver as it's not far in size from the 44's, but having a ceramic watch is kinda cool, almost no risk of it getting scratched, ok mine cracked for no reason but the AP service was great, it's waiting for me in Paris.

Good luck on your choice but can tell you if you love the 5167R you should love the 5712

[Flex368]

Originally Posted by brmeyers

Hey Felix, LOL, I have a GOOD feeling these two will be sticking around until AT LEAST Basel 2017..

Originally Posted by Flex368

You certainly selected two fine references there. Will they stay for longer than one week this time?

I simply have to quote myself here.