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martinr · 29 July 2016, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Patek is patek taking on a whole new meaning these days unfortunalely. Thierry should take a back seat.

You had a real collectors item with your 5711 missing minute marker.

GB-man · 29 July 2016, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr

You had a real collectors item with your 5711 missing minute marker.

the one that got away

AK797 · 29 July 2016, 10:23 AM

I haven't seen the date issue here for quite some time and watch is 3 years old so maybe PP have resolved this issue now as widely believed since then, fingers crossed as I write.

martinr · 29 July 2016, 10:35 AM

I've had two 5711 and one 5167 over the last three years and never had the sticking date issue so hopefully it's resolved.

Vipes · 29 July 2016, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

I haven't seen the date issue here for quite some time and watch is 3 years old so maybe PP have resolved this issue now as widely believed since then, fingers crossed as I write.

I got it fixed last year and back then I think they figured out the sticking date issue. I'll see what the AD says.

Dancing Fire · 29 July 2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vipes

Well, the date didn't stick today and seems to be okay. I'm still going to see what the AD recommends. Maybe better to send it to get it checked out. Thanks, guys.

My 5396 have stuck b/t dates for the past 2 days...

Dancing Fire · 29 July 2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Passionata

with all my respect , have u ever reported this problem to PP ?A watch on this pricepoint shoud be perfect , sorrry i m speechless......

Not yet, b/c the watch is still under factory warranty till Mar. 2017

enjoythemusic · 29 July 2016, 11:25 AM

Vipes, since it was fixed once before with the same issue am sure Patek will pay for shipping both ways and a turnaround time of three to four weeks max. A reputable company values their customers.

Vipes · 29 July 2016, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Vipes, since it was fixed once before with the same issue am sure Patek will pay for shipping both ways and a turnaround time of three to four weeks max. A reputable company values their customers.

I think my AD will take care of the shipping. My warranty ran out right after they fixed it last year. I'm hoping they will fix this on their dime.

red1108nyc · 29 July 2016, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipes

I think my AD will take care of the shipping. My warranty ran out right after they fixed it last year. I'm hoping they will fix this on their dime.

So sorry to hear of this bud. I hope they can address the issue once for all so you can fully enjoy without this cloud. How many times can you re-fix the same problem? We can argue both sides but to me, major league price should not come with minor league QC.

KarlS · 29 July 2016, 12:25 PM

Most of these PP QC comments were covered in Stephens 5270 thread and it got fairly heated with directly opposing views of what should be expected of mechanical watches. I haven't had any problems and I have to say the number of reported problems seem to have dropped of on TRF

josephashburnnn · 29 July 2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipes

Hi all,

Anyone had a sticking date issue twice? Just noticed this today. Had the same thing happened last year and it was fixed by Patek. 3rd issue with 2 Pateks. I'm going to bring it to my AD this weekend. Starting to lose faith in this brand.

I have said it before and I will say it again.

We should be happy with all these QC and imperfection issues from Patek.

Why?

Because a 100% flawless watch has got no soul at all! It will be just a robot with no soul in it! Conversely, Patek watches are hand made and have souls in them, just like humans, they get "sick" and needs attention every now and then. That's why they are so expensive!

So stop complaining! Either you get rid of your Patek and buy other soul-less watches, or you get your Patek to a doctor asap. And if you happen to send your watch back to Patek, the longer it takes to come back the better. Because Pateks are exclusive stuff, and waiting is part of Club Exclusive, get it?

clintfca · 29 July 2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dancing Fire

My 5396 have stuck b/t dates for the past 2 days...

Seriously, between that and you mentioning the moon phase losing two advances per full moon cycle that watch needs to see a PP service center asap (luckily it's still under warranty).

Back to the OP's 5711. It is this reported sticking date issue that has 'somewhat' deterred me from trying to find one.

josephashburnnn · 29 July 2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfca

Back to the OP's 5711. It is this reported sticking date issue that has 'somewhat' deterred me from trying to find one.

The sticking date would be the smallest of issues dude. FInding an available 5711 is the bigger issue. The joy of landing a 5711 and joining club exclusive would negate any QC or imperfection issue.

KarlS · 29 July 2016, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfca

Seriously, between that and you mentioning the moon phase losing two advances per full moon cycle that watch needs to see a PP service center asap (luckily it's still under warranty).

Back to the OP's 5711. It is this reported sticking date issue that has 'somewhat' deterred me from trying to find one.

I think QC issues are unacceptable but not to buy a watch because of a few exceptions seems a bit extreme. Considering how many cars get recalled we would all be back to horses!

clintfca · 29 July 2016, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by josephashburnnn

The sticking date would be the smallest of issues dude. FInding an available 5711 is the bigger issue. The joy of landing a 5711 and joining club exclusive would negate any QC or imperfection issue.

I did write 'trying to find one'. The last time I saw a blue dial 5711 in the window display of a AD was in 2013 in Hong Kong. I wasn't in any position to buy a Patek back then. I still pass by the same AD every now and then to see what they have in the window.

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Originally Posted by KarlS

I think QC issues are unacceptable but not to buy a watch because of a few exceptions seems a bit extreme. Considering how many cars get recalled we would all be back to horses!

Agreed, hence I wrote 'somewhat' as oppose to indefinitely

josephashburnnn · 29 July 2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

I think QC issues are unacceptable

How is it unacceptable? QC issues are what makes a Patek a Patek. Humans are not perfect, that is why we have so many issues.

Racerdj · 29 July 2016, 08:43 PM

Sorry to read this. Mine is still ok after being fixed last year!

kilyung · 29 July 2016, 11:19 PM

I've been fortunate not to see this issue. Touch wood. Luckily I'm taking a break from PP (other than one piece I'm still waiting on).

KarlS · 29 July 2016, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by josephashburnnn

How is it unacceptable? QC issues are what makes a Patek a Patek. Humans are not perfect, that is why we have so many issues.

Because the last time I got into an aeroplane which I think is infinitely more complex in operation I don't expect the undergear to stick! I am just weird that way. If you read my post you will see that there has been all said and done in another thread and there is little point rehashing the same points!

KarlS · 29 July 2016, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by josephashburnnn

I have said it before and I will say it again.

We should be happy with all these QC and imperfection issues from Patek.

Why?

Because a 100% flawless watch has got no soul at all! It will be just a robot with no soul in it! Conversely, Patek watches are hand made and have souls in them, just like humans, they get "sick" and needs attention every now and then. That's why they are so expensive!

So stop complaining! Either you get rid of your Patek and buy other soul-less watches, or you get your Patek to a doctor asap. And if you happen to send your watch back to Patek, the longer it takes to come back the better. Because Pateks are exclusive stuff, and waiting is part of Club Exclusive, get it?

Personally if we could arrange for you to get all the Pateks with a soul snd just send me the ones that work, I will be happy!!

enjoythemusic · 29 July 2016, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Personally if we could arrange for you to get all the Pateks with a soul snd just send me the ones that work, I will be happy!!

masyv6 · 30 July 2016, 12:10 AM

Sorry to hear about it, man!

Just bring it to the Dallas GTG and I'll take it off your hands

nyc2la · 30 July 2016, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

I've been fortunate not to see this issue. Touch wood. Luckily I'm taking a break from PP (other than one piece I'm still waiting on).

Mike, what's your brand of choice these days? And, what's the PP you're still waiting on??

martinr · 30 July 2016, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Personally if we could arrange for you to get all the Pateks with a soul snd just send me the ones that work, I will be happy!!

Karl,I added him to my "club exclusive", the ignore list.

josephashburnnn · 30 July 2016, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Personally if we could arrange for you to get all the Pateks with a soul snd just send me the ones that work, I will be happy!!

Of course Patek will make them work again. Just a matter of how long. Again, the longer it takes, the better it is. You are going to love your watch even more once it comes back.

josephashburnnn · 30 July 2016, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr

Karl,I added him to my "club exclusive", the ignore list.

Seems like you can't really appreciate a Patek.

KarlS · 30 July 2016, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by josephashburnnn

Seems like you can't really appreciate a Patek.

Obviously not...but then I am not a 5175 owner like yourself...I hope you appreciate your 5175 more when the perpetual calendar sticks on Mondays and that you truly appreciate Patek when it may return after a year in the service centre! The good news is that by the time you get it back from Patek at least one perpetual calendar change may take place and hopefully you will not be disappointed when it works! I think the difference in views is not going to have a conclusion so let's just agree to disagree!

GB-man · 30 July 2016, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by josephashburnnn

I have said it before and I will say it again.

We should be happy with all these QC and imperfection issues from Patek.

Why?

Because a 100% flawless watch has got no soul at all! It will be just a robot with no soul in it! Conversely, Patek watches are hand made and have souls in them, just like humans, they get "sick" and needs attention every now and then. That's why they are so expensive!

So stop complaining! Either you get rid of your Patek and buy other soul-less watches, or you get your Patek to a doctor asap. And if you happen to send your watch back to Patek, the longer it takes to come back the better. Because Pateks are exclusive stuff, and waiting is part of Club Exclusive, get it?

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Originally Posted by josephashburnnn

The sticking date would be the smallest of issues dude. FInding an available 5711 is the bigger issue. The joy of landing a 5711 and joining club exclusive would negate any QC or imperfection issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by josephashburnnn

How is it unacceptable? QC issues are what makes a Patek a Patek. Humans are not perfect, that is why we have so many issues.

Quote:

Originally Posted by josephashburnnn

Of course Patek will make them work again. Just a matter of how long. Again, the longer it takes, the better it is. You are going to love your watch even more once it comes back.

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Originally Posted by josephashburnnn

Seems like you can't really appreciate a Patek.

You're on a roll.

KarlS · 30 July 2016, 01:35 AM

Ha ha good avatar....troll jumps to mind

29 July 2016, 11:25 AM	#38
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 20,989	Vipes, since it was fixed once before with the same issue am sure Patek will pay for shipping both ways and a turnaround time of three to four weeks max. A reputable company values their customers. __________________ __________________ ----> TAMPA Meetup In December 2024 <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=13450519 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

29 July 2016, 08:43 PM	#48
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	Sorry to read this. Mine is still ok after being fixed last year! __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

29 July 2016, 10:23 AM	#33
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	I haven't seen the date issue here for quite some time and watch is 3 years old so maybe PP have resolved this issue now as widely believed since then, fingers crossed as I write.

29 July 2016, 10:35 AM	#34
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,106	I've had two 5711 and one 5167 over the last three years and never had the sticking date issue so hopefully it's resolved.

29 July 2016, 12:25 PM	#41
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	Most of these PP QC comments were covered in Stephens 5270 thread and it got fairly heated with directly opposing views of what should be expected of mechanical watches. I haven't had any problems and I have to say the number of reported problems seem to have dropped of on TRF

29 July 2016, 11:19 PM	#49
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	I've been fortunate not to see this issue. Touch wood. Luckily I'm taking a break from PP (other than one piece I'm still waiting on).

30 July 2016, 12:10 AM	#53
masyv6 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: 35000ft Posts: 3,771	Sorry to hear about it, man! Just bring it to the Dallas GTG and I'll take it off your hands

30 July 2016, 01:35 AM	#60
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	Ha ha good avatar....troll jumps to mind

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