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Old 15 December 2016, 08:03 AM   #31
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I really hope your buddy doesn't have his home broken into. If it does happen, I really hope the burglar doesn't steal the watches. That would be a shame. To the lawters out there, what would happen in that situation?

Side note, what self-respecting man would wear another man's watch?
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Old 15 December 2016, 08:06 AM   #32
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I really hope your buddy doesn't have his home broken into. If it does happen, I really hope the burglar doesn't steal the watches. That would be a shame. To the lawters out there, what would happen in that situation?

Side note, what self-respecting man would wear another man's watch?
The burglar.
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Old 15 December 2016, 08:08 AM   #33
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I really hope your buddy doesn't have his home broken into. If it does happen, I really hope the burglar doesn't steal the watches. That would be a shame. To the lawters out there, what would happen in that situation?

Side note, what self-respecting man would wear another man's watch?
One currently wearing just the other man's wife.
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Old 15 December 2016, 08:16 AM   #34
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Time to replace with a look a like Rolex. Then let things just happen, when and if, she comes back with the watch and complains. Then ask her what has she done with the one she took away
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Old 15 December 2016, 08:17 AM   #35
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I'd smash both of them with a hammer 100 times and put the hangtags on the bracelet toss them in the boxs with all accessories and when they opened them up to sapphire crystal covering their hands like sand at the beach and texted me.....

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" must have happened durring shipping, call FedEx"
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Old 15 December 2016, 08:19 AM   #36
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Sad situation, sorry to hear.

Have the lawyers negotiate it and let her choke on it. It's just a thing, though admittedly a fairly expensive thing.

Once he gets his bearings he can buy a shiny new watch, or shiny new watches.

Nothing like getting a new watch in the mail to cheer me up.

PS - wait till the millenial boyfriend wakes up one morning and realizes he doesn't want to be laying in the same bed as a middle aged woman. I mean, I'm 48, and even I don't want to be laying in the same bed as a middle aged woman...

Good luck to him.
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Old 15 December 2016, 08:37 AM   #37
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Divorce

When my divorce was in process 30 years ago, there was a country western song about divorce that I remember well.

"She got the gold mine and I got the shaft."
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Old 15 December 2016, 08:45 AM   #38
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Shouldn't this be moved to "general"?
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Old 15 December 2016, 08:53 AM   #39
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Are you not all assuming he doesn't deserve this. For all we know he could have done any number of miserable things to her. There are always 2 sides to a story and maybe she bought the watches anyway in the belief he deserved them and unknown to her he was not the person she thought he was.
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Old 15 December 2016, 08:57 AM   #40
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Old 15 December 2016, 09:01 AM   #41
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Are Rolexes Considered Community Property?

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What's mine's my own. Ouch what a story... Not sure what the law is here (I don't plan on getting married, unless it's to someone with at least equal 'community property') I always thought watches and luxury items were safe from this, just half the house and bank accounts would go. Certainly worth a read up it seems.


When they say half of everything, they mean half of everything! Even if you own assets before a marriage you may be liable for their appreciation during the marriage should one divorce. A family member learned this the hard way
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Old 15 December 2016, 09:03 AM   #42
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The guy should be asking for half the value of all of her jewelry and personal assets to be included as well. Pretty nasty stuff. I hope I never have to go through it.....
My first thought LOL she might think different if it dips into her pile.
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Old 15 December 2016, 09:03 AM   #43
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Old 15 December 2016, 09:19 AM   #44
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What seems obvious to me is that her jewelry should be fair game for the same equitable division.

I'd imagine she has some nice jewelry if the OP has three Rolexes. If she's attached to any/all of it, maybe you can agree that she keeps her jewelry and you keep your watches...
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Old 15 December 2016, 09:20 AM   #45
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Old 15 December 2016, 09:35 AM   #46
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Good luck if I was getting divorced and the wife wanted my watches.Id just say I sold them or they would just vanish.
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Old 15 December 2016, 09:42 AM   #47
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What seems obvious to me is that her jewelry should be fair game for the same equitable division.

I'd imagine she has some nice jewelry if the OP has three Rolexes. If she's attached to any/all of it, maybe you can agree that she keeps her jewelry and you keep your watches...
Exactly, go after all her jewellery and detail it all out and then demand half of it, and see if she won't agree to her keeping hers and you yours.
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Old 15 December 2016, 09:52 AM   #48
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Case in point. A work colleague is currently separated and divorce proceedings underway. Two of his three Rolexes (an SS Datejust, SS Submariner and SS GMT) were purchased during the course of his 8-year marriage to a now 40-something woman who has recently taken up with a Millennial-aged lover. As per her divorce attorney, she is now staking claim to both the Submariner and GMT (one of which she intends to pass on to her current boyfriend) and the other to be sold. While this planned endeavor is a 'slap in the face' to any hardworking and devoted Rolex WIS, the eventual dispersal of joint (community-based assets) is apparently legal and on the horizon for the soon-to-be divorced couple. As an afterthought, is it maybe best to keep some personal purchases and belongings 'secret' from spouses given that domestic changes can occur at any time?
It's not quite this cut-and-dried. The watches may be community-property as they can be classed as an asset, but division of those assets would be done in an equitable fashion in a community-property state.

Her diamonds, earring, necklaces, bracelets, designer hand bags, and the like may off-set the value of his watches.
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Old 15 December 2016, 09:56 AM   #49
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I really hope your buddy doesn't have his home broken into. If it does happen, I really hope the burglar doesn't steal the watches. That would be a shame. To the lawters out there, what would happen in that situation?

Side note, what self-respecting man would wear another man's watch?
Obviously a very spiteful one. I certainly wouldn't!
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Old 15 December 2016, 10:31 AM   #50
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When they say half of everything, they mean half of everything! Even if you own assets before a marriage you may be liable for their appreciation during the marriage should one divorce. A family member learned this the hard way
How is this enforced? Assuming she doesn't keep copies of sales receipts or videos of private transactions where is the proof any watches have ever existed? Half ones accounts, house and car won't cut it she wants your watches, grandfather clock vintage wine and heirlooms too?
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Old 15 December 2016, 11:12 AM   #51
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Sell it for one dollar to a trusted friend or family member give wife 50 cents buy back later for a dollar after divorce. And don't keep secrets from wife.
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Old 15 December 2016, 11:18 AM   #52
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This thread is comical.

Things get split up during a divorce. It's too bad he left his rolex lying around. That said he'd get credit for one half the marital value in equitable distribution. So crying over it is just venting.
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Old 15 December 2016, 12:12 PM   #53
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This thread is comical.

Things get split up during a divorce. It's too bad he left his rolex lying around. That said he'd get credit for one half the marital value in equitable distribution. So crying over it is just venting.
Funny stories, to be certain.

About 15 years ago, a neighbor in Florida was going through the same issues. When he caught his wife cheating, the wife said she was going to divorce him, so he engaged an attorney who said exactly what you've said here. Before any case was filed, the neighbor got in his 4x4 pickup truck and went on a rampage, driving into/through the house, over the stuff in the yard, and into anything he couldn't drive over. All the property was junk.

She got half the market value of the property at time of filing, which for junk isn't much. He still had to pay off the loans on the junk. She tried to get the market value before it was trashed, but the judge ruled that at the time he trashed it the stuff was his property to dispose of as he saw fit, and though it may seem a bit crazy that he would trash his own stuff, she had no claim as there was no action underway that would protect the value on her behalf.

I'm not a lawyer, and this is his side of the story, but I know she was telling everyone she didn't get anything out of the divorce.
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Old 15 December 2016, 12:16 PM   #54
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I would give them to her in a heartbeat if the judge ordered it. Otherwise he is going to order cash be paid instead. I would however open the case back and make sure that watch needed a new movement before I handed them over. Good luck to your buddy and I hope there are no kids involved. They are the ones who pay the most in a divorce.
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Old 15 December 2016, 12:22 PM   #55
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Funny stories, to be certain.

About 15 years ago, a neighbor in Florida was going through the same issues. When he caught his wife cheating, the wife said she was going to divorce him, so he engaged an attorney who said exactly what you've said here. Before any case was filed, the neighbor got in his 4x4 pickup truck and went on a rampage, driving into/through the house, over the stuff in the yard, and into anything he couldn't drive over. All the property was junk.

She got half the market value of the property at time of filing, which for junk isn't much. He still had to pay off the loans on the junk. She tried to get the market value before it was trashed, but the judge ruled that at the time he trashed it the stuff was his property to dispose of as he saw fit, and though it may seem a bit crazy that he would trash his own stuff, she had no claim as there was no action underway that would protect the value on her behalf.

I'm not a lawyer, and this is his side of the story, but I know she was telling everyone she didn't get anything out of the divorce.
Yeah that makes sense. Passive appreciation or depreciation after filing on a marital asset is marital. Active appreciation is non marital.
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Old 15 December 2016, 01:21 PM   #56
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i do divorce for a living. it is no different than buying a girlfriend jewelry watch prior to filing. in any state, community or equitable distribution, its dissipation. the only way it wouldnt be is if you used inherited funds that were not commingled with other funds.

if anyone needs advice just PM me.
I was under the assumption that even if you have a separate bank account (not secret just premarital assets) once you use that money to buy something it's a marital asset?

Either way that sucks big time. I would prolly swap the watches with some of canal streets finest.
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Old 15 December 2016, 01:29 PM   #57
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My buddy back home, his ex-wife's new boyfriend is driving his old Harley. Tell me that wouldn't piss you off seeing him tooling around town on it.
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Old 15 December 2016, 01:39 PM   #58
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This comes to mind when reading this thread

Chris rock ( I understand )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8TqhBIEbWA
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Old 15 December 2016, 01:45 PM   #59
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Wait it gets worse. I've got another one.

My best friend from high school. A full bird Colonel in the Air Force. 26 years. The day that he submits his retirement packet he comes home from work and finds the locks on his house have been changed. He can't get in and calls his wife. No answer.

Long story short this woman waited until the last minute of his career to divorce him to maximize her half of his retirement pension.


To say that my friend was floored is an understatement.
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