HELP!! Never seen before Green Dot Anchor

[ny_yeti]

We now jump to the early eighties when Rolex started using sapphire as opposed to plexi. Movements upgraded to quick set 3035 caliber and more importantly for the anchors, the depth rating was added with another 100 meters. First Rolex still used the matt dial with the big white hour markers, model 16800. The anchor to match the new depth rate probably wasn't ready. So Rolex used the old 200m/660ft anchors and put a green dot on top with the correct depth rating of 300m and 1000feet.


http://www.rnoud.com/index.php?optio...d=41&showall=1

[Beach]

according to the link bih115 sent above it appears Rolex has "glued" on the green dot in the past:

this link

We now jump to the early eighties when Rolex started using sapphire as opposed to plexi.
Movements upgraded to quick set 3035 caliber and more importantly for the anchors, the depth rating was added with another 100 meters. First Rolex still used the matt dial with the big white hour markers, model 16800. The anchor to match the new depth rate probably wasn't ready. So Rolex used the old 200m/660ft anchors and put a green dot on top with the correct depth rating of 300m and 1000feet.

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by Beach

Blueface you may be right. Im just stating the facts and my guess is a guy that was an executive at paramount would not have time to make a fake anchor when he had the means to own many rolex watches. perhaps avoid this thread moving forward as it seems its upsetting you. Im here to learn. I understand this is very strange....that being said is it possible that rolex glued the 610m green dot to a regular 200m anchor...Im just trying to figure out what this is and if its possible this anchor is just missing its green dot on the other side?

Based on the metal saying 200 on the other side, can't be a normal anchor just missing the green dot.
As has been commented, seems more like an altered genuine anchor or the extreme scenario of a genuine fluke, with the latter being doubtful.

[Beach]

wow thats crazy we posted the exact same line at the same time! see above

[Beach]

Originally Posted by BiH115

Why don't you rip the 2000m green dot off, and see what's underneath?

I dont think it smart to remove the green dot. however here is another line from the article you sent about the history of the rolex anchor


"Early eighties the 18kt changed from plexi to saphire just as the steel one. The reference changed to 16808 and the gold coloured anchor got a green dot/inlay over the old 200m/660ft anchor.

After the green inlay was replaced by an anchor with the correct depth rating 300m/1000ft the string was not immediately replaced by a chain. Also the new dial was introduced, but nipple dials were still very common until late R serialnumbers. The newer dial has a gold lining around the hour markers. The reference is still 16808. This unlike the steel sub that evolved to 168000."

[Beach]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Based on the metal saying 200 on the other side, can't be a normal anchor just missing the green dot.
As has been commented, seems more like an altered genuine anchor or the extreme scenario of a genuine fluke, with the latter being doubtful.

heres a quote from the history of the rolex anchor:

"Early eighties the 18kt changed from plexi to saphire just as the steel one. The reference changed to 16808 and the gold coloured anchor got a green dot/inlay over the old 200m/660ft anchor.

After the green inlay was replaced by an anchor with the correct depth rating 300m/1000ft the string was not immediately replaced by a chain. Also the new dial was introduced, but nipple dials were still very common until late R serialnumbers. The newer dial has a gold lining around the hour markers. The reference is still 16808. This unlike the steel sub that evolved to 168000."

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by Beach

is it possible to find a green dot for sale?

I believe it is just like the Tritium pearls. When it comes to vintage Rolex stuff there are no limits. With that I don't say
there is something wrong with your anchor, I'm not sure exactly how they was made at that time.

[Beach]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Based on the metal saying 200 on the other side, can't be a normal anchor just missing the green dot.
As has been commented, seems more like an altered genuine anchor or the extreme scenario of a genuine fluke, with the latter being doubtful.

apparently rolex did put green dot over the 200 in some cases:

quoting the history of the rolex anchor:
" The reference changed to 16808 and the gold coloured anchor got a green dot/inlay over the old 200m/660ft anchor."

[Beach]

It appears in the 60's rolex did use the 200m anchor and put a green dot over it

Here is another quote from the history of the rolex anchor:

The Sea-dweller

During the late sixties, early seventies the nowadays well sought after sea-dweller 1665 was launched. Whether this model had an anchor to accompany the revolutionary depth rating has been a question for me for some time. But then I found it. Rolex used the steel anchor with a depth rating of 200m/660ft and put green dot on top with the correct 610meters/2000feet. Rarity comes at a price and this anchor will set you back a thousand us dollars if you are lucky enough to find one. Pics are (again) from www.astorlive.com

The sea-dweller got through the same transformation as the submariner did. A new reference 16660 was introduced with a depth rating of 1220meters/4000ft. It still had a matt dial for a while and again the 200meters/660feet anchors were used. Again the green dot was used, but now with 1220 and 4000 depth rating.

[MonBK]

I would take off the green dot as it clearly doesn't belong on that anchor.

[Tanner]

Peel the wax off and see if its really stamped 2000.

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[AK797]

I'd take the green off as well, see if the correct number is underneath.

[tiger eye]

peel it off, whats the worst that can happen?

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by AK797

I'd take the green off as well, see if the correct number is underneath.

The correct number will be there, just not 2000.

[Beach]

You must be kidding people about taking the green dot off. We have proof rolex used 200m/600ft anchors and covered them with green dots. the wear and patina are very consistent with the 2000 green dot. This was used as a key chain for a 60's austin martin. I just cant remove the green dot as it would devalue this anchor. HAS ANYONE READ THE HISTORY OF THE ROLEX ANCHOR. it verifies that rolex used 200/600 anchors for the early model sea dweller

[corn18]

Why are you trying so hard to figure this out?

BTW, do you have an MG to go with that manual? I grew up with MGB's. Fun cars.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Beach

You must be kidding people about taking the green dot off. We have proof rolex used 200m/600ft anchors and covered them with green dots. the wear and patina are very consistent with the 2000 green dot. This was used as a key chain for a 60's austin martin. I just cant remove the green dot as it would devalue this anchor. HAS ANYONE READ THE HISTORY OF THE ROLEX ANCHOR. it verifies that rolex used 200/600 anchors for the early model sea dweller

Sorry pal, there is no such thing.

[donq]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Sorry pal, there is no such thing.

I think Austin Martin would wholeheartedly disagree with you, good sir!!

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by donq

I think Austin Martin would wholeheartedly disagree with you, good sir!!

Really, can you please show me what an Austin Martin looks like?

[Beach]

how would I reattach the green dot? would you remove this if it were yours? I would likely damage the green dot beyond trying to remove it. Seems we have a lot of people not willing to read the website about how these were made.

I was hoping to find someone here educated on this matter however I have reached out to the people who are more familiar and they have confirmed this to be real.

[Beach]

Originally Posted by corn18

Why are you trying so hard to figure this out?

BTW, do you have an MG to go with that manual? I grew up with MGB's. Fun cars.

I have a 1959 MGA that two tone red/black. Its a wonderful car to drive for the vintage. I absolutely love it

[Canefan1]

Originally Posted by Beach

how would I reattach the green dot? would you remove this if it were yours? I would likely damage the green dot beyond trying to remove it. Seems we have a lot of people not willing to read the website about how these were made.

I was hoping to find someone here educated on this matter however I have reached out to the people who are more familiar and they have confirmed this to be real.

[Beach]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Really, can you please show me what an Austin Martin looks like?

Sorry guys Aston martin is the correct spelling ... Making fun of someone because autocorrect stepped in is rather low however I can see by the picture you guys have posted (porsche or rolls speedo) that your goal is to impress people. People with real money tend to want to hide the fact so they are not a target......its the people trying to obtain wealth that pretend to have money by showing the world their rolls speedo/clock they copied from google!

[Chiboy]

I don't think I've ever seen such animosity in a thread about such a benign subject.

[Beach]

Originally Posted by MonBK

I would take off the green dot as it clearly doesn't belong on that anchor.

"The Sea-dweller"
During the late sixties, early seventies the nowadays well sought after sea-dweller 1665 was launched. Whether this model had an anchor to accompany the revolutionary depth rating has been a question for me for some time. But then I found it. Rolex used the steel anchor with a depth rating of 200m/660ft and put green dot on top with the correct 610meters/2000feet. Rarity comes at a price and this anchor will set you back a thousand us dollars if you are lucky enough to find one."


The sea-dweller got through the same transformation as the submariner did. A new reference 16660 was introduced with a depth rating of 1220meters/4000ft. It still had a matt dial for a while and again the 200meters/660feet anchors were used. Again the green dot was used, but now with 1220 and 4000 depth rating.


Only a few years after introducing the 16660 the dial was replaced by a glossy version with the white gold hour marker lining. The reference number stayed the same (tripple six). I like to believe that at this time the anchor was finally ready and got the correct depth stamped on it. The string was still attached to it, no chain yet."

[GermanyMatt]

I suppose the best hope is the green dot on the opposite side has fallen off. It sounds like you have found someone to authenticate the anchor, so unless you are a collector, I'd find someone to buy it. I seriously doubt you find that person on this forum.

[Beach]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

I don't think I've ever seen such animosity in a thread about such a benign subject.

I am not sure why Im being attack. Apparently people are not friendly on this site???? Everyone is an authority yet no one is looking at the history of the anchor article as a reference and just posting a opinion. Honestly where would someone get an extra green dot from people? These anchors are made of steel and I would imagine hard to destroy so I dont see where the extra green dot would appear from especially on a vintage anchor.

Im looking for anyone with a positive response or fact as to why it is not legit? There are many articles about how Rolex has used old anchors and attached the green dot. I even have people saying the anchor is authentic so Please explain or offer a fact as to why this could not be real???

[myporsche]

This is the stupidest thread I have read in a long time.

Take your anchor and your geen dot and _ _ _ _

[JayB]

Originally Posted by Beach

I even have people saying the anchor is authentic so Please explain or offer a fact as to why this could not be real???

If you've already found people to authenticate it then you have your answer.

You must obviously trust the opinion of these people so why do you need someone here to say otherwise.

[Canefan1]

The forum is being trolled.