SD43 vs 16710

[B737]

Thanks for all the input - I really appreciate it. I went ahead on the deal. Maby stupid - but the Pepsi has a place in my hart. Besides being a nice watch it also represent the 80th and 90th in a way. There is a sentimental value in this model that none of new Rolexes cant touch.

[Pbender]

Originally Posted by rgwarden

It’s like the one on the left screams Rolex, and the one on the right doesn’t have to.


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+1 and the one on the right goes so much better with those shoes



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[mtgjr]

Originally Posted by B737

Thanks for all the input - I really appreciate it. I went ahead on the deal. Maby stupid - but the Pepsi has a place in my hart. Besides being a nice watch it also represent the 80th and 90th in a way. There is a sentimental value in this model that none of new Rolexes cant touch.

The 80th and 90th what?

[sgmgolf]

If its a choice then 16710 wins for me.....my favorite watch by far (I own 16600 SD and 16710 GMT). I could part with my SD if I really had to choose but never my 16710! Ideally, don't trade the SD43 and add the 16710 if that's an option.
They compliment each other quite well in a small collection! You would have a classic (16710) and a highly desired modern SD43.

Cheers

[VicLeChic]

Originally Posted by B737

Thanks for all the input - I really appreciate it. I went ahead on the deal. Maby stupid - but the Pepsi has a place in my hart. Besides being a nice watch it also represent the 80th and 90th in a way. There is a sentimental value in this model that none of new Rolexes cant touch.

I haven't been in your situation of wanting to trade a modern Rolex for an older one. I don't think I'll ever will but who knows.

Good luck with your choice. The thrill is what moves us so I hope the GMT re-acquisition turns out to be as expected.

[Maiden]

Originally Posted by rgwarden

There are an increasing number of threads on TRF where new model acquisitions are regretted and 5 digit models are coveted.
I swapped my BLNR for a 16570 and haven’t regretted it, regardless of value or the perceived ‘improvements’ - Easylink etc.
I just prefer the proportions.
And the trouble is, now I’ve taken against the new lugs/cases/crown guards I can’t unsee them.
As long as I don’t see a five digit next to a six digit I can almost get away with it and want one, but when a photo shows both, the differences are major to me.


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It is interesting how we all "see" things differently. I can barely notice a difference in this blown up photo, and it would even be less noticeable on the wrist in the wild, to me anyway.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Maiden

It is interesting how we all "see" things differently. I can barely notice a difference in this blown up photo, and it would even be less noticeable on the wrist in the wild, to me anyway.

For me it’s all in the lugs and how they influence overall case shape. And what has been seen cannot be unseen. Compare the lugs of the two GMTs and see if you still can’t see the difference. It’s like comparing curvaceous with just plain fat

6 digit maxi case lugs can be ugly imho. Something Rolex addressed with the SD43.

[CalSRQ1]

Originally Posted by Devildog

For me it’s all in the lugs and how they influence overall case shape. And what has been seen cannot be unseen. Compare the lugs of the two GMTs and see if you still can’t see the difference. It’s like comparing curvaceous with just plain fat

6 digit maxi case lugs can be ugly imho. Something Rolex addressed with the SD43.

Wow - great post...never looked at the lugs in this way but you are spot on

[abozz]

Love modern Rolex, SD43!.

[masterdinh]

Originally Posted by B737

I have a SD43. I like it, but i am drawn to the 16710 I used to own one but sold it. I now have the chanse of getting another 16710 for the SD43 with around 3000 Euros my way. The GMT is with certificate and in an almost unpolished condition. Looking at SD43 shortage discussions, red letters going away and price increases - would you do it? I would like the gmt more but I dont want to do anything stupid...

If it were me. No way. SD 43 looks amazing.


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[Cru Jones]

For me, SD50 > 16710.

[Onikage]

Don't walk, run! Once you drop the SD43 into their hands and the GMT and 3000 euros are in yours that is.

[GMT Aviator]

Originally Posted by B737

Thanks for all the input - I really appreciate it. I went ahead on the deal. Maby stupid - but the Pepsi has a place in my hart. Besides being a nice watch it also represent the 80th and 90th in a way. There is a sentimental value in this model that none of new Rolexes cant touch.

Congrats. Personally I would have likely done the same.

The trouble with the SD, as beautiful as it is, it blends into the ‘black dial, black ceramic bezel’ slot like most the other Rolex Sport Watches.
As well as 16710’s my daily is a 116710 LN. It’s a great watch but I can’t see myself ever buying a SD, Sub, etc because in the black dial, black bezel combination they pretty much all look the same.
Others will disagree and appreciate the subtle differences between them all, but for me, a sub, a GMT, an SD43 etc are not differentiated enough at a glance for me to justify the spend on them. I’d rather my collection have a bit more differentiation when I open the watch box, even though four of my watches are 16710’s!

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by Devildog

For me it’s all in the lugs and how they influence overall case shape. And what has been seen cannot be unseen. Compare the lugs of the two GMTs and see if you still can’t see the difference. It’s like comparing curvaceous with just plain fat

6 digit maxi case lugs can be ugly imho. Something Rolex addressed with the SD43.

Brutal but true.

[VicLeChic]

Originally Posted by Devildog

For me it’s all in the lugs and how they influence overall case shape. And what has been seen cannot be unseen. Compare the lugs of the two GMTs and see if you still can’t see the difference. It’s like comparing curvaceous with just plain fat

6 digit maxi case lugs can be ugly imho. Something Rolex addressed with the SD43.

I must admit it is the main reason why I've never clicked with the six digits Sub. Saw it in the flesh, tried it on. I bought the YM and the SD43 instead.

But this is only a matter of taste, what you and me see as fat lugs, others pereceive as muscular. A friend of mine loves the look of his 114060 for that very reason. It helps make a 40mm case look larger, somewhat more macho/masculine dare I say. Eye of the beholder.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

I must admit it is the main reason why I've never clicked with the six digits Sub. Saw it in the flesh, tried it on. I bought the YM and the SD43 instead.

But this is only a matter of taste, what you and me see as fat lugs, others pereceive as muscular. A friend of mine loves the look of his 114060 for that very reason. It helps make a 40mm case look larger, somewhat more macho/masculine dare I say. Eye of the beholder.

Indeed

To my eyes the maxi case works better in TT as the gold breaks up the expanse of steel, but I appeciate how others like the thicker lugs

[Mick8moses]

I personally would never trade the SD43 for a previously loved GMT. I'm a sub guy and I love my two line 14060M. But if I sold it, I wouldn't think about trading my SD43 for another. I would look at that watch as part of my history that I decided to move from. Just like my first guitar that I learned how to strum chords on.
The new watch wouldn't feel the same as my old one, it wouldn't be the timepiece I wore most everyday watching my daughter grow up - it would only remind me of it.
My new SD43 I wear most everyday now. This watch represents this present time for me - as my daughter left father-adoring child to become independent teen.
I honestly believe this is why many of us can't bear to sell our old watches because of the moments they shared with us, or fathers or grandfathers. It is the single thing that we wore everyday through every trial, tribulation and exuberation. We look at old pictures with family and friends and there it is on our wrist or our Dad's wrist. Then on Sunday we decide to pull it out of the box set the time and put it back on and it feels like an old friend.

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[rex513]

I would advice you save and have both of them.

[airchitect]

I’d stick stay with the SD43 and save for the 16710. To me that watch has always worn small and in all reality is less robust than your 116710. Not to mention.....imho, if......and it’s a big if.......Rolex decides to release a new SS Coke GMT or finally gets the mauve and burple bezel correct and puts it on SS, the 16710 market is going to correct like no other.....

[RXAPPP]

I prefer a modern rolex over a 5 digit model however in this case a 9/10 16710 gets my vote

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by airchitect

I’d stick stay with the SD43 and save for the 16710. To me that watch has always worn small and in all reality is less robust than your 116710. Not to mention.....imho, if......and it’s a big if.......Rolex decides to release a new SS Coke GMT or finally gets the mauve and burple bezel correct and puts it on SS, the 16710 market is going to correct like no other.....

The odds of Rolex coming up with true Pepsi coloured ceramic and offering it in SS, angering the previous white gold big money buyers are very slim.

[VicLeChic]

Originally Posted by Onikage

The odds of Rolex coming up with true Pepsi coloured ceramic and offering it in SS, angering the previous white gold big money buyers are very slim.

They've just done it with the Sky-Dweller though.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

They've just done it with the Sky-Dweller though.

I think it’s a little different. They went from no existing steel models and Three different precious metals, a handful of different dials and strap options, to adding 1 model in SS with three different dial options none of which are the same as the gold options.

Compared to adding a SS GMT model (which already exists in two variants) but with the same dial and bezel as their white gold version.

I seriously doubt they’ll do it. I don’t think they’ll do a coke bezel either. But if for some reason they surprise me, IMO the decision would still be based on a different foundation than the decision to make a sky d in steel.

[VicLeChic]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

I think it’s a little different. They went from no existing steel models and Three different precious metals, a handful of different dials and strap options, to adding 1 model in SS with three different dial options none of which are the same as the gold options.
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Same blue dial in the SS Sky-Dweller as in the WG.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=579121

[mtgjr]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

.... to adding 1 model in SS with three different dial options which are exactly the same as the white gold options.

Fixed that for you.

[watchwatcher]

Originally Posted by B737

Thanks for all the input - I really appreciate it. I went ahead on the deal. Maby stupid - but the Pepsi has a place in my hart. Besides being a nice watch it also represent the 80th and 90th in a way. There is a sentimental value in this model that none of new Rolexes cant touch.

Hey, the watch is more of an aesthetic appeal than a logical one. If the Pepsi has a place in your heart and the SD doesn't, then sounds like a good move to me.

I mean, no one in their right mind spends this much money for a watch, right?

Congrats and post some pics!

[brandrea]

Congratulations OP.

Watch buying almost always comes to to emotion

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

Same blue dial in the SS Sky-Dweller as in the WG.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=579121

whoa. Thanks for posting.

That's nuts! Just saw that in the other thread.

Well, I'm very surprised.

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

They've just done it with the Sky-Dweller though.

True but, making the pepsi colours more true to the alu bezels would be seen as an improvement. I can't imagine Rolex doing that and offering it in SS. I doubt it would affect the 16710 lunacy even if they did.