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Old 17 January 2009, 01:45 PM   #31
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Can I chnage my vote from Daytona to 233...
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Old 17 January 2009, 01:59 PM   #32
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Panerai is nice with fellow "WIS". but i only live with the public around me who doesn't care about high end watches(or they just can't afford them) so i'll go with the daytona. with all honesty i hate explaining. If i buy a panerai there is no wow factor from the public they will surely say why didn't you buy a rolex. no matter how much i want to convince myself that i just want to buy my rolex for myself satisfaction but i'll be honest i like the reaction of people when i tell them my watch is a rolex. Sadly i am a very vain person. So panerai will never cut it for me because it will never be the household name like rolex is and for that matter no other watch will ever ever match that.
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The Daytona has lost much of its glamour.It's a bit "oldnews".

Its a simple test take a Daytona and place it next to a PAM 233 ..... No contest.The PAM wins and the Daytona looks a little lost.

Its all about individual taste,but after I bought my PAM 104,all the Rollies went and were replaced by more PAMs.
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Old 17 January 2009, 02:02 PM   #34
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Panerai is nice with fellow "WIS". but i only live with the public around me who doesn't care about high end watches(or they just can't afford them) so i'll go with the daytona. with all honesty i hate explaining. If i buy a panerai there is no wow factor from the public they will surely say why didn't you buy a rolex. no matter how much i want to convince myself that i just want to buy my rolex for myself satisfaction but i'll be honest i like the reaction of people when i tell them my watch is a rolex. Sadly i am a very vain person. So panerai will never cut it for me because it will never be the household name like rolex is and for that matter no other watch will ever ever match that.


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Old 17 January 2009, 02:04 PM   #35
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felly! i'm a daytona boy now so i have to fight for it through thick or thin.
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Panerai is nice with fellow "WIS". but i only live with the public around me who doesn't care about high end watches(or they just can't afford them) so i'll go with the daytona. with all honesty i hate explaining. If i buy a panerai there is no wow factor from the public they will surely say why didn't you buy a rolex. no matter how much i want to convince myself that i just want to buy my rolex for myself satisfaction but i'll be honest i like the reaction of people when i tell them my watch is a rolex. Sadly i am a very vain person. So panerai will never cut it for me because it will never be the household name like rolex is and for that matter no other watch will ever ever match that.
So you buy your watch soley based on impressing or pleasing others? Interesting to say the least.....
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So you buy your watch soley based on impressing or pleasing others? Interesting to say the least.....
pleasing myself by making others very uncomfortable! Sadly that's me very very vain...
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Old 17 January 2009, 02:09 PM   #38
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Sorry to bring this thread back to life, but I thought it was a good debate going on, and I agree very much with this post.

That being said I tried a 233 on today at the BH boutique and I AM IN LOVE!

Can I chnage my vote from Daytona to 233...
YES. You can.

I too am in love with the 233 and can say I am lucky enough to own one. It gets more wrist time than any of my 9 other watches...

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Old 17 January 2009, 02:13 PM   #39
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pleasing myself by making others very uncomfortable! Sadly that's me very very vain...
I got no prob with it, just find it interesting. I actually rarely wear any of my Rolex since I hate the attention. And have found that I prefer the models without the cyclops so they attract even less attention. With my Panerai I get comments about my failing eye sight. Love both brands, respect both brands just hate rather than like the attention and misconceptions that go along with Rolex.
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I got no prob with it, just find it interesting. I actually rarely wear any of my Rolex since I hate the attention. And have found that I prefer the models without the cyclops so they attract even less attention. With my Panerai I get comments about my failing eye sight. Love both brands, respect both brands just hate rather than like the attention and misconceptions that go along with Rolex.
I hear you! to be honest i think the only reason i'm buying a rolex is because of the misconceptions.
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Old 17 January 2009, 02:24 PM   #41
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I hear you! to be honest i think the only reason i'm buying a rolex is because of the misconceptions.
LOL. All about spending your own money to make your own self happy. Anyone should be able to admit that. So if you buy what you like, you've made the right choice.
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How about the 233's weighty big brother ??
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Old 17 January 2009, 02:32 PM   #43
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LOL. All about spending your own money to make your own self happy. Anyone should be able to admit that. So if you buy what you like, you've made the right choice.
pretty happy! but i am intrigued by the dark side as well. maybe next year
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Listen, all you morons... Let's get to the basics, the Paneri is a very well-made and quality watch, and it does have some very nice features, but Felly is right in his posts, Paneri does not, and probably will not, reach the "status" of Rolex. It's a great watch, and if you like the Paneri, then go for it, but there is something to having one of the most sought-after watches from the most recognized watch manufacturer in the world. If the Daytona was all "hype" or marketing results of Rolex, then why is it still so popular? I happen to love it, (mine), and even if it wasn't the icon that it is (like it or not, it truly is an icon) I'd still love it. Owning a fine timepiece is about individuality, and for all those of you that say you like the Paneri better, I respect that and support you guys 100%, it's a quality timepiece and certainly an exceptional watch, I just like the fact of owning ... the flagship of Rolex.
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Old 17 January 2009, 02:46 PM   #45
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The 233 celebrated the first in-house movement by panerai and this adds to why it is so valuable now however 10 yrs from now, who knows.
Also, many say the big watch fad (44mm and up) is just a phase. Although I didn't see it that way a year ago, it does seem to make some sense now.

As for the Daytona, well, there's plenty enough said about it already and its history speaks for itself.

They are both beautiful watches and you are right, totally different.... so why dont you buy both!
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Old 17 January 2009, 05:17 PM   #46
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Listen, all you morons... Let's get to the basics, the Paneri is a very well-made and quality watch, and it does have some very nice features, but Felly is right in his posts, Paneri does not, and probably will not, reach the "status" of Rolex. It's a great watch, and if you like the Paneri, then go for it, but there is something to having one of the most sought-after watches from the most recognized watch manufacturer in the world. If the Daytona was all "hype" or marketing results of Rolex, then why is it still so popular? I happen to love it, (mine), and even if it wasn't the icon that it is (like it or not, it truly is an icon) I'd still love it. Owning a fine timepiece is about individuality, and for all those of you that say you like the Paneri better, I respect that and support you guys 100%, it's a quality timepiece and certainly an exceptional watch, I just like the fact of owning ... the flagship of Rolex.

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Panerai is nice with fellow "WIS". but i only live with the public around me who doesn't care about high end watches(or they just can't afford them) so i'll go with the daytona. with all honesty i hate explaining. If i buy a panerai there is no wow factor from the public they will surely say why didn't you buy a rolex. no matter how much i want to convince myself that i just want to buy my rolex for myself satisfaction but i'll be honest i like the reaction of people when i tell them my watch is a rolex. Sadly i am a very vain person. So panerai will never cut it for me because it will never be the household name like rolex is and for that matter no other watch will ever ever match that.
Interesting, if sad take.

I mean obviously there is some wow factor with a Rolex and many other fine luxury items, but truth be told, Rolex is no where near the top echelon of high end watches, it’s just what most of the general public associates with haute horology. It’s funny, because I feel that out here in L.A., with all our flash and in many cases, “fakeness”, there is actually a pretty big draw on Panerai’s since they are so large. Albeit, modestly designed, but still they have a presence about them.
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I went for the Daytona, I keep looking at Panerai's and I just really don't get it. I don't understand the watch, I guess I'm not a Panerai kinda guy...plus the daytona has soooo much more history behind it which can be achieved only through the passage of time, ...
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I've had the offer of both in my hunt for a new watch, i do love the 233, it's beautiful, but it's massive, there is no way you can hide that under your shirt, it will stick out like a sore thumb wherever you wear it so if it's a daily wearer then remember it can rarely be put into discrete mode!

The Daytona, well i think everyone on here knows my grumbles about it, the lack of a date function is a huge oversight by Rolex, there are so many ways they could incorporate a date without removing any of the style, i guess they're saving the date feature for the day that the Daytona stops selling for a premium.


So, my vote, if you can get away with wearing the 233 then get it, if you're like me and struggle to pull off wearing a watch that sits so high off the wrist and is very prominent then the Daytona might be the better bet.


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Both GREAT. But I think I will go for 233 first, then after that Daytona ss.
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Sorry to bring this thread back to life, but I thought it was a good debate going on, and I agree very much with this post.

That being said I tried a 233 on today at the BH boutique and I AM IN LOVE!

Can I chnage my vote from Daytona to 233...
Yes, you can!!!
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Interesting, if sad take.

I mean obviously there is some wow factor with a Rolex and many other fine luxury items, but truth be told, Rolex is no where near the top echelon of high end watches, it’s just what most of the general public associates with haute horology. It’s funny, because I feel that out here in L.A., with all our flash and in many cases, “fakeness”, there is actually a pretty big draw on Panerai’s since they are so large. Albeit, modestly designed, but still they have a presence about them.
i agree with you hundred percent on this one. it is a factor where you live. in the united states it seems like rolex watches are everywhere (fake or real) and people become jaded and the wow factor is gone. i like the wow factor. I think if i live there i'll go to panerai as well just to be away from that bunch.
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Visited some ADs this morning...

My Panerai still have the 233 in stock.I know there are some that desperately want one ....

Also saw a greenglass Milgauss and a original relieved valve DSSD in the window at the Rolex AD ......but somehow Rolex just dont do it for me anymore.

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I think it's only a matter of taste.
Daytona is icon, but 233 is great. So whatever you choose, both is winner.
But once again, if I were you, I will get 233 first, then Daytona.
And I will do that...
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Daytona"s are everywhere now, you don't see many 233 in the wild. Possibly at Basel new Daytona in 42 or 44mm.
I have a few Daytona's and prefer the 233.
Enjoy whatever you choose!
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Daytona"s are everywhere now, you don't see many 233 in the wild. Possibly at Basel new Daytona in 42 or 44mm.
I have a few Daytona's and prefer the 233.
Enjoy whatever you choose!
A Daytona,with the same flat profile in 45mm would be a brilliant move on the part of Rolex.Should however increase the dial size too.Not like the DSSD where the dial looks out of balance small compared to the rest of the design ...... and no inscriptions !!!
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There are people on this board far smarter than me, but last I looked, I can get a 233 for around $11500 - $12000 on a watch that retails for $14700. On the flip side, a SS Daytona is going to be right around MSRP (perhaps a discount if you really look hard or are a good customer). Based on that, I'd say the Daytona is going to hold value better.

I do like the look of the 233, but I do think the BIG WATCH buzz is a fad that will go away in a few years...but that's just my opinion.
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There are people on this board far smarter than me, but last I looked, I can get a 233 for around $11500 - $12000 on a watch that retails for $14700. On the flip side, a SS Daytona is going to be right around MSRP (perhaps a discount if you really look hard or are a good customer). Based on that, I'd say the Daytona is going to hold value better.

I do like the look of the 233, but I do think the BIG WATCH buzz is a fad that will go away in a few years...but that's just my opinion.
buddy! you are in the right section of the forum! and i'll give you for that
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Come on guys, both are great watches!!

And let's make thing clear here, I don't have any of the two and I been trying to get a SS Daytona for a long time and for me is enough no more waiting, so I'll probably go with the 233 I don't know why but Panerai is starting to get on me
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