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Sub King · 20 November 2018, 03:24 AM

I’ve heard it has to do with Rolex watches being made to last forever. AR coating is not particularly durable or long-lasting.

STEELINOX · 20 November 2018, 03:29 AM

Even if it was applied on the inside, it does nothing for "profits" in ROLEXs grand scheme of things.

As with lug holes and chamfers AND even "diagonal brushed lugs" did nada to make $ = so it all went away.

AR was never ever even thought of as "a way" to more $ for ROLEXs interests...

ecdc · 20 November 2018, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sub King

I’ve heard it has to do with Rolex watches being made to last forever. AR coating is not particularly durable or long-lasting.

Cite your source, please. It's used on eyeglasses all the time. I have an 18-year old Panerai with underside AR coating and it's as good as the day it was made. Based on my experiences, I would disagree with you.

squrrlz · 20 November 2018, 03:52 AM

What ever the reason, it would be great to see Rolex develop an AR coating in the future. It makes it so darn hard to get a good photo without glare!

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subtona · 20 November 2018, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ecdc

Nope. Rolex modified it to be 28,800.

yes thanks, that detail was lost somewhere in my eroding recall

LuminousMaximus · 20 November 2018, 04:52 AM

If Rolex Lost it’s reflectiveness I would not respect them. They would be like other lesser desirable watches...

It is one of the most desirable properties our Rolex watches possess

To even utter those anti-xxxxxxx coatings is Akin to Some bad Mo-Jo

I will not request permanent Ban because you are new...lol

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liu_watch · 20 November 2018, 05:23 AM

Outside AR coating can scratch and Rolex doesn’t want millions of watches from people with OCD to send in for “repair”, not consistent with Rolex image of making durable watches. On the other hand, inside AR coating only is not very effective, so why bother? Leading to the conclusion of no AR coating.

That would be my speculation. Am not buying the shininess explanation...

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Art 1 · 20 November 2018, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by liu_watch

Outside AR coating can scratch and Rolex doesn’t want millions of watches from people with OCD to send in for “repair”, not consistent with Rolex image of making durable watches. On the other hand, inside AR coating only is not very effective, so why bother? Leading to the conclusion of no AR coating.

That would be my speculation. Am not buying the shininess explanation...

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But thats the explanation that Rolex gave in the interview at Basel several years ago. I'm sure it can be found with a search somewhere.

HogwldFLTR · 20 November 2018, 06:06 AM

Flashiness diminishes with the addition of AR. Rolex isn't a tool watch. It's jewelry.

AK797 · 20 November 2018, 06:17 AM

After years of wondering, now I think they are basically being cheap and lazy, Breitling and Omega and others do it and it looks so much better, Rolex have even conceded partly to this with the Cyclops but I think now they are too proud to admit they've been wrong or slow and that the others have stolen a march on them. It's not hurting them so they won't change now anyway.

liu_watch · 20 November 2018, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

But thats the explanation that Rolex gave in the interview at Basel several years ago. I'm sure it can be found with a search somewhere.

And they also said the current shortage of sports models is all due to sudden, exceptionally high demand, and that it took them a year to make a Rolex...

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artschool · 20 November 2018, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ecdc

That's a stretch, but let's go with it. What about a Daytona? Why does it need a shiny crystal?

a racing car driver could use it to signal for help if he crashes at dusk during a 24hr race?

faimag · 20 November 2018, 06:56 AM

If I had a dollar for every time one wonders why rolex doesn't do this or that...

Art 1 · 20 November 2018, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by liu_watch

And they also said the current shortage of sports models is all due to sudden, exceptionally high demand, and that it took them a year to make a Rolex...

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The take a year thing is advertising. The shortage thing I'm not sure any Rolex executive made that statement on the record. It would be interesting to know if they did. They did make the statement on the record as to why the glass is what it is. What would be the point of not telling the trueth about that.

ROLEXster · 20 November 2018, 08:10 AM

Found this ... but can't confirm.
I can't see my logo close enough to tell.

Na84 · 20 November 2018, 08:14 AM

What‘s your source? Looks interesting

bmclaurin · 20 November 2018, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by asiparks

...No worries, Rolex were late to the party with substantial bracelets, ceramics, decent lume and power reserves>40 hrs, so I'm sure they'll catch up with the AR shortly...probably give it a fancy name too.....

Sounds just like Apple...

ROLEXster · 20 November 2018, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Na84

What‘s your source? Looks interesting

I was just googling and came across this article.
https://nobswatchmaker.com/blog/how-...ective-coating

Onikage · 20 November 2018, 09:11 AM

I don't really care. Every micro brand seems to be including it, along with sapphire crystals, ceramic bezels, display backs, machined clasps, solid end links etc "that you'd expect at a £300 price point". Actually I'd rather Rolex didn't bother.

Rilz · 20 November 2018, 09:34 AM

Rolex will lose it's reflectiveness but i for one would love to see them try.

R!$ · 20 November 2018, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nektar

That would slow down the production lol

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Sweetswisssteel · 20 November 2018, 10:19 AM

It scratches easily

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superpop · 20 November 2018, 10:35 AM

I have a few Breitlings with AR and it holds up exceptionally well. I do not notice any difference in the clarity.

J!m · 20 November 2018, 10:48 AM

There are plenty of third parties that will AR coat the original crystal.

But what puts me off more, for a “tool watch” is that when actually outside, in the sun, doing something other than riding a desk, the sun reflection can be quite blinding off the flat crystal. I wish they would have domed it slightly, even if it was only on the ‘dweller (no cyclops) to avoid this.

AR durability is fine, especially internally. Go the (older) Omega route: lightly domed with internal AR. The Planet Ocean is double AR, which is amazing, if it does scratch easily on the outside.

STEELINOX · 20 November 2018, 11:08 AM

My MKII has it on the inside...

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s.m.b. · 20 November 2018, 11:12 AM

5:39

3:43

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imgook · 20 November 2018, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ROLEXster

Found this ... but can't confirm.
I can't see my logo close enough to tell.

Well i have a D500

cattleman41 · 20 November 2018, 11:41 AM

Personally, I love how they reflect.

s.m.b. · 20 November 2018, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cattleman41

Personally, I love how they reflect.

I do as well. It's one of the details I enjoy most.

arcentaur · 20 November 2018, 11:56 AM

I for one would love the SMPc dial’s look on the sub’s at every angle..

20 November 2018, 03:29 AM	#32
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20 November 2018, 06:06 AM	#39
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20 November 2018, 09:11 AM	#49
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	I don't really care. Every micro brand seems to be including it, along with sapphire crystals, ceramic bezels, display backs, machined clasps, solid end links etc "that you'd expect at a £300 price point". Actually I'd rather Rolex didn't bother. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

20 November 2018, 11:08 AM	#55
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,020	My MKII has it on the inside... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN SUB-MAH-REEEN-ER ~ !

20 November 2018, 03:24 AM	#31
Sub King "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Canada Watch: 124060 Posts: 402	I’ve heard it has to do with Rolex watches being made to last forever. AR coating is not particularly durable or long-lasting.

20 November 2018, 03:52 AM	#34
squrrlz "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Canada Watch: 114270, 16570 Posts: 77	What ever the reason, it would be great to see Rolex develop an AR coating in the future. It makes it so darn hard to get a good photo without glare! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 November 2018, 05:23 AM	#37
liu_watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: FL Posts: 667	Outside AR coating can scratch and Rolex doesn’t want millions of watches from people with OCD to send in for “repair”, not consistent with Rolex image of making durable watches. On the other hand, inside AR coating only is not very effective, so why bother? Leading to the conclusion of no AR coating. That would be my speculation. Am not buying the shininess explanation... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 November 2018, 06:17 AM	#40
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	After years of wondering, now I think they are basically being cheap and lazy, Breitling and Omega and others do it and it looks so much better, Rolex have even conceded partly to this with the Cyclops but I think now they are too proud to admit they've been wrong or slow and that the others have stolen a march on them. It's not hurting them so they won't change now anyway.

20 November 2018, 06:56 AM	#43
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,089	If I had a dollar for every time one wonders why rolex doesn't do this or that...

20 November 2018, 08:14 AM	#46
Na84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Munich Watch: 4x ♛ 4x ] Posts: 15	What‘s your source? Looks interesting

20 November 2018, 09:34 AM	#50
Rilz "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: USA Posts: 142	Rolex will lose it's reflectiveness but i for one would love to see them try.

20 November 2018, 10:19 AM	#52
Sweetswisssteel "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Brisbane Watch: 126618LB Posts: 588	It scratches easily Sent from my HTC 2PXH3 using Tapatalk

20 November 2018, 10:35 AM	#53
superpop "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Freeattle, WA Watch: SD43 and SS SkyD Posts: 432	I have a few Breitlings with AR and it holds up exceptionally well. I do not notice any difference in the clarity.

20 November 2018, 10:48 AM	#54
J!m "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Jim Location: Connecticut Watch: this! Hold my beer Posts: 2,839	There are plenty of third parties that will AR coat the original crystal. But what puts me off more, for a “tool watch” is that when actually outside, in the sun, doing something other than riding a desk, the sun reflection can be quite blinding off the flat crystal. I wish they would have domed it slightly, even if it was only on the ‘dweller (no cyclops) to avoid this. AR durability is fine, especially internally. Go the (older) Omega route: lightly domed with internal AR. The Planet Ocean is double AR, which is amazing, if it does scratch easily on the outside.

20 November 2018, 11:12 AM	#56
s.m.b. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: the Far West Posts: 1,282	5:39 3:43 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Rolex & Patek Philippe

20 November 2018, 11:41 AM	#58
cattleman41 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Houston Watch: BLNR DTNA Sub DJ41 Posts: 39	Personally, I love how they reflect.

20 November 2018, 11:56 AM	#60
arcentaur "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Nunya Posts: 330	I for one would love the SMPc dial’s look on the sub’s at every angle..

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