Over weight & obese men in USA over 65

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

It does not work. Read up on it.

depends what goal you define for it. a big muscular body may have low body fat, but the heart still needs to work harder to serve all that muscle

[G8RDPM]

Originally Posted by Etschell

BMI is a junk metric.

True.
My BMI is about the same as when I was 35 with a 30” waist and lifted weights six days a week.
So now BMI is close to the same,but when I look in the mirror, I question whose body is attached to my head!

[bobernet]

Originally Posted by Dubshack

Todd Gurley is about 6’1” and 230. According to a BMI chart he’s just about obese.






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Todd Gurley and me. My brother from another mother. Maybe we were separated at birth.

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

It works perfectly at raising employee contributions to company health care plans. If I was the weight needed for my BMI to be cost neutral I would be a desiccated carcass in my grave.

You are totally right. The last company I worked for used it all the time.

[andyxxx]

Originally Posted by 77T

But instead of risking a heart attack or stroke, you risk death by vehicle accident

I think that must be tongue in cheek humour.

There is no doubt cyclists risk a chance of a motor accident – but given the choice of over weight/obese or fit and healthy, I know which I choose (fail but strive for)

Incidentally, I tried road biking for 12 months and clocked up many miles, but never got hooked on it as I found it tedious and boring, so I stick with (amongst other exercise) mountain biking.

[BreguetRolex]

Originally Posted by andyxxx

I think that must be tongue in cheek humour.

There is no doubt cyclists risk a chance of a motor accident – but given the choice of over weight/obese or fit and healthy, I know which I choose (fail but strive for)

Incidentally, I tried road biking for 12 months and clocked up many miles, but never got hooked on it as I found it tedious and boring, so I stick with (amongst other exercise) mountain biking.

Yes it is the risk I take and every time i lock me feet in the pedals I think about it. I am willing to take that risk for the reward I get from doing so. Riding 5000+ miles per year in both here in the states as well as 6 months in Sri Lanka, the healthy and mental gains far exceed my worries and thoughts about getting taken out, however it can happen at anytime...

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[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by andyxxx

I think that must be tongue in cheek humour.

There is no doubt cyclists risk a chance of a motor accident – but given the choice of over weight/obese or fit and healthy, I know which I choose (fail but strive for)

Incidentally, I tried road biking for 12 months and clocked up many miles, but never got hooked on it as I found it tedious and boring, so I stick with (amongst other exercise) mountain biking.

I'm sure it was tongue in cheek, but cycling accidents are the number one cause of head injuries in recreational sports. It's arguably the most dangerous way to stay in shape.

[SearChart]

18.1 here, guess I need to eat even more

[Caynuck]

Awesome keep it up. Imagine if you cut that hair and shaved the moustache how much lighter you would be.

[andyxxx]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

cycling accidents are the number one cause of head injuries in recreational sports. It's arguably the most dangerous way to stay in shape.

I agree it is/can be dangerous – I have had many cars not see me and pull out, or pass too close and on two occasions vans being that close they brushed against me.

I have tried searching for head injury statistics and can’t find any info for the UK.
The USA has a bit more info, but I can’t find statistics specifically for head injuries sustained by adults during cycling activities (ie not including the many incidents involving youngsters)
It would also be interesting to see the percentage of the injuries that occurred without helmets. Many of the statistics I have just read include all age groups and even stress that “up to 85%” of head injuries would be negated by wearing helmets – which most keen cyclists do (road and mountain)

Anyway - cycling certainly seems to work for the OP in his overall well being long may you enjoy it! (just make sure you keep your helmet on!)

[BreguetRolex]

Originally Posted by Caynuck

Awesome keep it up. Imagine if you cut that hair and shaved the moustache how much lighter you would be.

That I can tell you is not gonna happen..! :) That hair and facial hair does not in any way effect my health and well being one bit. The things that effect my life are what goes in my mouth and how much of it and how much physical activity i put my "TICKER" through.. :)33943256_10211926853832677_1313533344239058944_n.jpg

[77T]

Originally Posted by andyxxx

I think that must be tongue in cheek humour.



There is no doubt cyclists risk a chance of a motor accident – but given the choice of over weight/obese or fit and healthy, I know which I choose (fail but strive for)



Incidentally, I tried road biking for 12 months and clocked up many miles, but never got hooked on it as I found it tedious and boring, so I stick with (amongst other exercise) mountain biking.

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I'm sure it was tongue in cheek, but cycling accidents are the number one cause of head injuries in recreational sports. It's arguably the most dangerous way to stay in shape.

Yes - I meant to choose and

I was a long distance runner and tried to be competitive after meeting/racing with Bill Rogers in the ‘70’s.

I was super fit 5-10, 135 lbs on race days. My office mates thought I was at death’s door and my wife would that comment about the car risks on my long run days.

I was truly complimenting OP on fitness.


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[BreguetRolex]

Originally Posted by 77T

Yes - I meant to choose and

I was a long distance runner and tried to be competitive after meeting/racing with Bill Rogers in the ‘70’s.

I was super fit 5-10, 135 lbs on race days. My office mates thought I was at death’s door and my wife would that comment about the car risks on my long run days.

I was truly complimenting OP on fitness.


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Thanks and no harm at all. It is a constant work in progress and one that I enjoy to the point of obsession . My life revolves around my ability to cycle and eat as healthy as one can. It is not easy and many many people can not keep it up and maintain this life habits or that they do not even care. I do not care what anyone else does one bit, but others will never sway or change my ways either.

[BreguetRolex]

This picture was taken last September here in NW Ohio with 2 of my high school classmates that graduated with me in 1972. All 3 of us are 65 years old and all three of us are still heavy into physical fitness and well being. The guy is a long distance runner and still is to this day running over 115,000 miles in his life time. He now still does races in a over 65 competition and places very well every single time and from time to time he still can smoke some of the young ones at 5 and 10 k races. The gal in the middle is a long distance runner and also extremely fit. We are a rare breed and it just makes us feel all warm and fuzzy inside..

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[Art 1]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I'm sure it was tongue in cheek, but cycling accidents are the number one cause of head injuries in recreational sports. It's arguably the most dangerous way to stay in shape.

In Orlando one is really risking it on a bike.

[77T]

Originally Posted by Art 1

In Orlando one is really risking it on a bike.

I grew up in Miami and started on sidewalks in the dark because the roadways were so dangerous. Learned all about the compression factor of concrete vs tarmac.

Atlanta area was more safe back in the ‘70’s but now it’s a crap shoot between rate of DWI and/or distracted driving (DWD).

Now I’m a walker and ironically yesterday while crossing a State Hwy at a corner, a guy in a red 4x4 speeds up towards me - I see his head is down - then he’s shocked to find me crossing - and gives me the long horn. Guess his text or whatever he was fiddling with made me invisible.

Those are the drivers we all must be wary about.


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[TK-710]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

I had nice BM about 15 minutes ago, is that good?

Absolutely. I used to judge whether it was going to be a good day or a bad day based on my workout but once I hit 40 the BM became the measuring stick. It really sets the tone for the whole day. Plus I always weigh my self afterwards. That’s always good for a pound or so in the win column.

[Zakalwe]

To address the point that BMI is useless, that's like saying, without any context, that a hammer is rubbish.

BMI is a tool and like any tool it has specific uses and when used appropriately and when the user is aware of its numerous limitations, it can be moderately useful. It's used in medical statistics and research as a criterion for co-opting people into studies, partly because it's easy to measure and because on average (note the emphasis) it correlates with obestity, i.e. as the BMI of a population goes up, the fatter (and more unhealthy) they are. So take a bunch of a hundred random people with a BMI of over 30. Sure one or two of them will be bodybuilders/athletes. 98 of them will be obese.

Clinically BMI is used in conjunction with other markers to assess health. If you email your new doctor your height and weight and he tells you you're obese without gathering any further information, get a new doctor. In practice, a doctor will speak to you (and therefore find out if you're an NFL running back and adjust his thinking accordingly) examine you and obtain more relevant information. In this context and allied to metrics like your waist circumference, BMI has a role in particular with respect to monitoring trends.

But yes, for comparing the health of random people on an internet forum, BMI is rubbish.

[BreguetRolex]

Originally Posted by Art 1

In Orlando one is really risking it on a bike.

My wife and I live 6 months here in the States in NW Ohio and by 3rd week of october we are out of here and spend the next 6 months on the equator in Hot and Humid Sri Lanka,. This is where I get the bulb of my miles for the year cause I can ride every single day without weather being a factor. Yes it is quite insane at times, but I am quite use to it for doing it so long. I am more scared riding the roads here in NW Ohio then I am in Sri Lanka. It takes quite some time to get conditioned to the extreme humidity and heat but i love it...

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by BreguetRolex

My wife and I live 6 months here in the States in NW Ohio and by 3rd week of october we are out of here and spend the next 6 months on the equator in Hot and Humid Sri Lanka,. This is where I get the bulb of my miles for the year cause I can ride every single day without weather being a factor. Yes it is quite insane at times, but I am quite use to it for doing it so long. I am more scared riding the roads here in NW Ohio then I am in Sri Lanka. It takes quite some time to get conditioned to the extreme humidity and heat but i love it...

I love the heat and humidity of Central Florida and thrive in it, it doesn't bother me. I am now in cold dreary and rainy Ontario. Hoping for some warmth to come this way. It was a warm winter in Florida, summer like, in fact.

[BreguetRolex]

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Originally Posted by Art 1

I love the heat and humidity of Central Florida and thrive in it, it doesn't bother me. I am now in cold dreary and rainy Ontario. Hoping for some warmth to come this way. It was a warm winter in Florida, summer like, in fact.

some of the awesome and super delicious fruits of Sri Lanka

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by 77T

I grew up in Miami and started on sidewalks in the dark because the roadways were so dangerous. Learned all about the compression factor of concrete vs tarmac.

Atlanta area was more safe back in the ‘70’s but now it’s a crap shoot between rate of DWI and/or distracted driving (DWD).

Now I’m a walker and ironically yesterday while crossing a State Hwy at a corner, a guy in a red 4x4 speeds up towards me - I see his head is down - then he’s shocked to find me crossing - and gives me the long horn. Guess his text or whatever he was fiddling with made me invisible.

Those are the drivers we all must be wary about.


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My wife is a biker and is comfortable in the 20-30K range. In fact she's off to inside biking now as we are in Canada and it's raining. But there are some very nice old rail trails in Ontario for biking. In Orlando she cannot bike other than the neighborhood. I have given up walking at night in Orlando, we are in walking distance to the city but it's just no longer safe at night. A few months ago a high school student was shot and killed walking to the school in the morning darkness about 100 yards away. And one evening I was about run off the sidewalk by a pickup full of drunk young people yelling things at me. Got me to thinking a beer bottle could have come my way. It's a shame really, its just how Central Florida can be. Much safer for bikers and walkers in Ontario, it's just the weather is so bad to walk or bike.

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by BreguetRolex

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some of the awesome and super delicious fruits of Sri Lanka

Very nice! Thanks for the pics!

[BreguetRolex]

Originally Posted by Art 1

My wife is a biker and is comfortable in the 20-30K range. In fact she's off to inside biking now as we are in Canada and it's raining. But there are some very nice old rail trails in Ontario for biking. In Orlando she cannot bike other than the neighborhood. I have given up walking at night in Orlando, we are in walking distance to the city but it's just no longer safe at night. A few months ago a high school student was shot and killed walking to the school in the morning darkness about 100 yards away. And one evening I was about run off the sidewalk by a pickup full of drunk young people yelling things at me. Got me to thinking a beer bottle could have come my way. It's a shame really, its just how Central Florida can be. Much safer for bikers and walkers in Ontario, it's just the weather is so bad to walk or bike.

We just arrived back from Sri Lanka 2 weeks ago and I am finding it hard to get adjusted to this gloom and doom of NW Ohio.. I been riding but so hard to get out as it has been on and off raining since we got back. My fingers and toes are cold and I have a electric heater on today here in my office.. Sure hope it starts getting nice out really soon..

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by BreguetRolex

We just arrived back from Sri Lanka 2 weeks ago and I am finding it hard to get adjusted to this gloom and doom of NW Ohio.. I been riding but so hard to get out as it has been on and off raining since we got back. My fingers and toes are cold and I have a electric heater on today here in my office.. Sure hope it starts getting nice out really soon..

I hear ya and understand. It can be hard to get motivated with the gray skys.

[Fencer]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I'm sure it was tongue in cheek, but cycling accidents are the number one cause of head injuries in recreational sports. It's arguably the most dangerous way to stay in shape.

Agreed. I got hit by a car, twelve broken bones in my back, fortunately the spine was fine. The bike, a beautiful DeRosa was totaled, of course.

[Art 1]

Originally Posted by Fencer

Agreed. I got hit by a car, twelve broken bones in my back, fortunately the spine was fine. The bike, a beautiful DeRosa was totaled, of course.

That's just awful, I'm sorry you went through that. My doctor in Florida who is also a friend was run over about 2 years ago. He will never be the same, but he lived, was out of work for a long time. He says he was lucky to have pulled through it all.

[BreguetRolex]

Originally Posted by Fencer

Agreed. I got hit by a car, twelve broken bones in my back, fortunately the spine was fine. The bike, a beautiful DeRosa was totaled, of course.

Oh that is quite sickening to see and really sad to hear things like this. Gosh you are quite lucky to say the least..

[BreguetRolex]

The cycling and running that I do is great for cardio and keeping me very fit, however the biggest and most important thing is "THE DIET"..! Its all about what and how much goes in the mouth. You are what you eat and that's the truth. I have a lot of people tell me, oh hell I am going to take up cycling so that i can lose weight and be like you Jerry.. HAH.. What cracks me up is a person that will go out and ride for 2 hours and burn 900 calories or so then pig out and consume 1800 calories.. Thats not really going to work..:)

[Fencer]

Ironically, just a few hours prior to my arrival, the local ER worked on another biker - our local cardio surgeon. He was far less lucky - broke his neck. He then lived, fully paralyzed, for about 8 years, in a house near us.

I LOVED riding, but decided to stop after that. Our local roads are dangerous - narrow, windy, hilly, often with no shoulders.

Best of luck to all the riders out there, and stay safe!