Is this ‘Proof’ Rolex are deliberately withholding stock ???

[HogwldFLTR]

I seriously doubt there is that much control of the Rolex stock inventory. I'd not make any conclusions based on the data presented.

[alphasports]

So now instead of kissing AD's asses to convince them to SELL us an overpriced watch, we should be eternally grateful to them for just letting us fondle them for a few moments?

The psychology of this supply issue just keeps getting weirder and weirder (no offence to OP, I do get it!)

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by TempoKing

I am glad you saw them in the flesh.
Personally I lost my interest in the Rolex sport models...because
I never wait in line
I don’t like most ADs
I want a discount for a product that has an unethically high price
...and some other reasons too complicated for you to hear
...as they are unimportant to most

I respect your resolve and like you, I won’t pay over MSRP. The use of the term unethically is interesting. I mean is it ethical to see the watch even at MSRP? I’m not sure, as this would depend on many factors. Sometimes I look down at my Daytona on my wrist and then across at someone in need and wonder if it’s ethical that I have such an expensive watch (I paid msrp though took me 14 years to get it) on my wrist and some have nothing. Not sure but these are the things that run through my mind sometimes.

[padi56]

Afraid all these Mk1 Mk2 dials etc stuff only exists in internet forum fantasy land and drive seller prices up land, there is no definite date for any Rolex watch to be made or shipped around the world for sale as for holding stock complete nonsense. I remember a few years back now the limited addition of 300 only of the new 2012 TOG for the Japanese only market.I remember this well as they were reported on forum as all being single letter Fxxxxxx and Dxxxxxx serials. And many on forum said they were old stock as they should be random serials now that did bring a smile to my face.

[JayHantz]

Glad he let let you see them and give you a taste of what you like, or do not like about them. The only thing that has me scratching my head is he let you hold them, but wouldn't let you try them on? Like your wrist is going to scuff the polished bits more than your hands would?

[vipereaper30]

Originally Posted by Rosex

I have an SD43 waiting for me at an AD, he is under strict instructions not to show it to anyone or even take it out of the coffin, I will collect it in a few weeks.

We all know your serial # now thanks to OP. Congrats on the incoming, I always love the delayed gratification of the wait!

[Rashid.bk]

Beautiful watches. Seems bizarre to read that these encounters are somewhat magical now...to see a ss Rolex in real life...woooooow...I'm blessed. It's laughable, but it's kinda how I felt when I finally saw a BLRO a couple weeks ago(in a grey's shop).

Now as for your post, it adds to the compounding lists of other facts. Mostly because they can produce watches at will when needed, I don't believe for a second those "came in" just yesterday. Rolex is aware, controlling, and managing this product distribution aka shortage. Maybe it wasn't planned from the beginning but it is now something that is to their benefit and somehow building their brand power and demand.

I would bet a weeks salary that DJs and PM Rolex are selling more than ever the last two years. Look at how many new DJs are incomings compared to 4-5 years ago, it was a bit odd to see someone chase a DJ purchase.

Rolex is in full control, they seem to want their watches more than I do, so I'm slowly starting to look at other brands. I like mechanical watches, I don't only love Rolex and many other houses also have history and pedigree. I cannot believe this is what Wilsdorf envisioned.

[DoctorA]

I don’t believe 90% of what ADs say!! It could’ve been sitting in his vault all that long and waiting for the right VIP to collect, the one who spends enough to be worthy of it!!

[GJ-PGMTII]

Originally Posted by BenzBen

I’ve wondered this as well. How some ADs will get the old Batman 116710 BLNR well after the release of the Batgirl.


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What’s the difference between Batman and batgirl gmts?


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[Doktor]

Originally Posted by padi56

Afraid all these Mk1 Mk2 dials etc stuff only exists in internet forum fantasy land and drive seller prices up land, there is no definite date for any Rolex watch to be made or shipped around the world for sale as for holding stock complete nonsense. I remember a few years back now the limited addition of 300 only of the new 2012 TOG for the Japanese only market.I remember this well as they were reported on forum as all being single letter Fxxxxxx and Dxxxxxx serials. And many on forum said they were old stock as they should be random serials now that did bring a smile to my face.

Right!

[NoVaSubowner]

Originally Posted by AK797

I think Rolex was in the Grassy Knoll as well...

I think Rolex is the Deep State.

Rolex knows what is really in Area 51.

Rolex financed the “Moon Landing”. Which was really on a soundstage in West Hollywood.





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[e dantes]

Originally Posted by NoVaSubowner

I think Rolex is the Deep State.

Rolex knows what is really in Area 51.

Rolex financed the “Moon Landing”. Which was really on a soundstage in West Hollywood.

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They may have conspired with Omega on the "moon landing."

[othertbone]

Originally Posted by ancientmariner

Perhaps they were not ‘delivered yesterday’

Yep where are the stickers??

Don't look new at all to me. Probably pieces they stole in a trade waiting to go to the grey market at a hefty profit, to be completely frank and honest with you.

[KVNNSCHNG]

Originally Posted by ancientmariner

Perhaps they were not ‘delivered yesterday’

Bingo.

[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by Rosex

I have an SD43 waiting for me at an AD, he is under strict instructions not to show it to anyone or even take it out of the coffin, I will collect it in a few weeks. I can assure you that he will respect my wish. P.S he has been holding the watch for me for a few months and its locked away. Excited to see if its an MK1 or Mk2, a bit like is it a boy or girl, I don't want to know until I collect so have not asked. According to my AD they not getting many SD43's anymore, he says the flow on them has slowed substantially since the initial release.

OH, he'll show it around...count on it. They all do. How would you ever know?

[Stellite]

LMAO. This thread needs this

[Rosex]

Originally Posted by vipereaper30

We all know your serial # now thanks to OP. Congrats on the incoming, I always love the delayed gratification of the wait!

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by othertbone

Yep where are the stickers??

Don't look new at all to me. Probably pieces they stole in a trade waiting to go to the grey market at a hefty profit, to be completely frank and honest with you.

They have stickers, you can see them in the pics. I do agree a little with your theory on back door sales though.

[Coolex]

I can 100% guarantee that most AD's have every SS model in stock in the back at all times.

IF you have a good relationship with them they will always show you whatever you want and claim "it's on hold for a costumer."

It's all Hollywood and fake.

Just the other day I was inquiring with a close AD about some various quartz and automatic Chronographs. We were talking about the difference in reset between different brands. I asked if they had any Rolex chronographs that I could "just take a peak at" to see how the complications compare. Low and behold, a white and black dial version appeared in front of me with no question. Of course they were both "on hold for customers."

[GJ-PGMTII]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

OH, he'll show it around...count on it. They all do. How would you ever know?

Have a friend walk in to that AD and ask about the watch and wonder out loud doubts if it’ll look good on their wrist.




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[tyler1980]

doesnt prove anything. what if the watch failed some QC step and went to the back of the queue and just made it out again?

I have a Harrods BB for example and they are all numbered. When they get sold sometimes a very low number is the one Harrods gets delivered even though the last one they got was numbered in the thousands. Its not always a linear process

[UmichNJ]

Originally Posted by MrPear

I really like seeing this kind of topic, sadly there is enough evidence to prove that ADs all over the planet are indeed holding stock in safes to both generate demand and sell their lesser DJ's, DD's and jewellery.

I love my AD very much for allowing me to purchase what are deemed as rarities (although, let's face it, they are not) however, I know they are lying through their back teeth when it comes to the Professional range.

What sucks is that Rolex will not do a thing about this.

I genuinely despise what is happening with a brand I have adored since I was a child.

Or, the dealer may just be holding them as “pre sold” for a customer. I’ve had a number of pieces that I couldn’t immediately collect and my AD held them for when I returned back to NYC.


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[tyler1980]

the bigger problem is because its abnormal people are going to assume its a mod and not original if you sell it. They will look at the purchase date and assume it cant be a legit MK1 dial

i wouldn't want it just because of that. It does raise questions for a potential buyer down the line as lets be honest we rarely keep all of our watches forever

[BenzBen]

Originally Posted by GJ-PGMTII

What’s the difference between Batman and batgirl gmts?


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Batgirl is 126710 instead of 116710. It has a jubilee bracelet and the 3285 movement instead of the oyster bracelet and 3186 movement.


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[BenzBen]

I know a few ADs that withhold stock for very long periods of time waiting for the right deal/bundle and perhaps this is what has happened here.


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[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by BenzBen

I know a few ADs that withhold stock for very long periods of time waiting for the right deal/bundle and perhaps this is what has happened here.


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very possible too.... OP said AD said it just arrived. Point being there is an explanation either way. If the AD has been holding it or if something happened on the Rolex side


doesnt have to be a conspiracy

[Rrpdc]

Originally Posted by ancientmariner

Perhaps they were not ‘delivered yesterday’

+1. Exactly!

[R G]

Originally Posted by alphasports

So now instead of kissing AD's asses to convince them to SELL us an overpriced watch, we should be eternally grateful to them for just letting us fondle them for a few moments?

The psychology of this supply issue just keeps getting weirder and weirder (no offence to OP, I do get it!)

X2

Originally Posted by DoctorA

I don’t believe 90% of what ADs say!! It could’ve been sitting in his vault all that long and waiting for the right VIP to collect, the one who spends enough to be worthy of it!!

[Lol-x]

How you can see 2 watches and draw conclusions about the entire Rolex distribution channel related to millions of watches is truely remarkable, pure genius I'd say.

[superpop]

I think all of these conspiracy theories are just that, theories. 4 years ago I purchased a leather tang strap for one of my Breitlings at a Rolex AD that also sells many other types of watches including Breitling. That was my purchase history with the AD! a month ago I walked in and started talking watches and looked over the PAM's and Breitlings. I then went over to the Rolex area and started looking at those cases. Lots of variety including blue DJ's and a TT SD43. I loved the SD43 but told the guy I really wanted a SS version. He went in the back and came out with a tray with the SS SD43 on it for me to try on. He said it is yours if you want it. They had just got it in and the manager told him to sell it. I told him I would give it some thought as I was not really prepared to buy that day and it was my first time seeing the watch. Called him back a few days later and told him I would come in to pick it up. Done deal and I paid retail. No one asked my or even hinted that I needed to buy other stuff to get this watch. I think they just surmised that I am not a flipper but rather a local customer that they want to have as a long term customer.