Waitlist: Time vs People

[benlee]

Originally Posted by yoast

"Do not try and bend the waitlist, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no waitlist. Then you'll see that it is not the waitlist that bends, it is only yourself."

LOL, was thinking the same.

To the OP, there's no waitlist at AD. There's some resemblance of a waitlist if you are contacting the Salon, if you are able to get on one. But there is now a waitlist to get on a waitlist.

Times are different now. Just buy grey and save the hassle. YOLO.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

There are no waitlist. There are only whales and human being.

Arnt they flying u in? Moby dick style? :)

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Arnt they flying u in? Moby dick style? :)

They mistook a tuna for a whale.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

They mistook a tuna for a whale.

That’s chicken of the sea right?

Lol

[baglady]

The fluidity of the waitlist, where such concept exists, is interesting.

I spoke to an AD today about procuring a dress watch that I've been looking for. AD said that it should be arriving shortly, and if I buy it, I should be added to the list for the Aquanaut I want. And depending on how serious I am about the dress watch (and I'm 100% serious, will buy it as soon as it's here), he can work to get me the Aquanaut sooner. Seems like a 6 month wait at its quickest, but I'm happy with that if it saves me some 25k GBP.

[d11n]

Originally Posted by baglady

The fluidity of the waitlist, where such concept exists, is interesting.

I spoke to an AD today about procuring a dress watch that I've been looking for. AD said that it should be arriving shortly, and if I buy it, I should be added to the list for the Aquanaut I want. And depending on how serious I am about the dress watch (and I'm 100% serious, will buy it as soon as it's here), he can work to get me the Aquanaut sooner. Seems like a 6 month wait at its quickest, but I'm happy with that if it saves me some 25k GBP.

waitlist=building a relationship=spending money with AD. Nothing wrong with that in my view as long as you are lucky enough to love everything you buy to build the relationship...I love classic and vintage dress watches so for me no troubles...sounds like you are in a similar situation. I think were others feel regret is when they start buying pieces they don't really want and whales jump the queue on items they are waiting for...

[baglady]

Originally Posted by d11n

waitlist=building a relationship=spending money with AD. Nothing wrong with that in my view as long as you are lucky enough to love everything you buy to build the relationship...I love classic and vintage dress watches so for me no troubles...sounds like you are in a similar situation. I think were others feel regret is when they start buying pieces they don't really want and whales jump the queue on items they are waiting for...

That's fair. Oh well, we'll see what happens. We're both brown so I sensed some mutual affinity there

[dauster]

Originally Posted by yoast

"Do not try and bend the waitlist, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no waitlist. Then you'll see that it is not the waitlist that bends, it is only yourself."

probably one of my favorite comments in a while...

[yoast]

Originally Posted by dauster

probably one of my favorite comments in a while...

[baglady]

To be clear, the waitlist sounds long but really isn't. If an AD gets two of a certain type of watch per year, then four people waiting for the watch means the fourth person waits two years. And since any of the three prior might drop out for other reasons, really I don't think the list if there is any is that long for most watches.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by baglady

To be clear, the waitlist sounds long but really isn't. If an AD gets two of a certain type of watch per year, then four people waiting for the watch means the fourth person waits two years. And since any of the three prior might drop out for other reasons, really I don't think the list if there is any is that long for most watches.

Except that the list isn't static. It's fluid based on whims, customer spends etc etc, if it exists as a formalised entity at all. As you saw, your getting on "the list" at the very least would bump a few others down. How many other 'bagladies' are there annually?

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by UmichNJ

I think that some form of waitlists can be helpful. I waited approximately four years, was a good and reliable customer, and finally received my 5711a Tiffany stamp. There were certainly many qualified buyers, and I do think wait duration played a role.


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That’s beautiful

[baglady]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Except that the list isn't static. It's fluid based on whims, customer spends etc etc, if it exists as a formalised entity at all. As you saw, your getting on "the list" at the very least would bump a few others down. How many other 'bagladies' are there annually?

Oh yeah and as I built rapport with this AD he seemed to fluidly suggest he can Fast track one to me in 6 months instead of 2 years. I could definitely see how these factors play into it.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by baglady

To be clear, the waitlist sounds long but really isn't. If an AD gets two of a certain type of watch per year, then four people waiting for the watch means the fourth person waits two years. And since any of the three prior might drop out for other reasons, really I don't think the list if there is any is that long for most watches.

I waited 8 years on a list.

[Fat_ninja]

I think wait list are different globally. The UK seems to be more strict.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I think wait list are different globally. The UK seems to be more strict.

Being as London has been Europe's de-facto capital for the last two decades, the world's pre-eminent tourist destination, and a haven for ill-begotten funds, the city's ADs have become a rather... interesting... bunch to deal with. That's before taking into account the recent gold-rush on specific models.

As an effective oligopoly, they have been able to make rules safe in the knowledge they will be followed without protest. Buying a watch has long been as pleasant an experience as buying a used car.

It will be interesting to see how things change should Brexit occur - the city has already lost some of its lustre in the last three years...

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Being as London has been Europe's de-facto capital for the last two decades, the world's pre-eminent tourist destination, and a haven for ill-begotten funds, the city's ADs have become a rather... interesting... bunch to deal with. That's before taking into account the recent gold-rush on specific models.

As an effective oligopoly, they have been able to make rules safe in the knowledge they will be followed.

It will be interesting to see how things change should Brexit occur...

1) rules can be broken

2) I really don’t understand the dynamic of having to beg for a luxury good. People should want me/usto buy their stuff not the other way around... time to take back the power bois... and gals. Now I do genuinely like a few of my AD’s but the fringe people...they can bite me

[benlee]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

1) rules can be broken

2) I really don’t understand the dynamic of having to beg for a luxury good. People should want me/usto buy their stuff not the other way around... time to take back the power bois... and gals. Now I do genuinely like a few of my AD’s but the fringe people...they can bite me

You should tell the folks in the rolex section, who are clamouring to buy a Ceramic Daytona or Peps GMT Some will even bend backwards and tolerate atrocious service and treatment, just so they can buy a hot watch at msrp.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

1) rules can be broken

2) I really don’t understand the dynamic of having to beg for a luxury good. People should want me/usto buy their stuff not the other way around... time to take back the power bois... and gals. Now I do genuinely like a few of my AD’s but the fringe people...they can bite me

1. I wholeheartedly agree, but sometimes those making the rules won't let me break them or at least won't break them for me. If they have been willing (wink wink, nudge nudge) ...

These are consumer goods - beautiful, yes, but essentially useless consumer goods nonetheless. I am not insecure or naive enough to believe that my life will be fundamentally better, or that I will be meaningfully happier, with even the most amazing watch. And so I smile, politely decline their insinuated offer, thank them for their time and our history, and go get some dumplings at Din Tai Fung instead.

2. Again, totally agree. Even in the case of limited supply and a wait, politeness, respect, honesty and transparency go a long way (out of the window in the past few years - in London at least).

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by benlee

You should tell the folks in the rolex section, who are clamouring to buy a Ceramic Daytona or Peps GMT Some will even bend backwards and tolerate atrocious service and treatment, just so they can buy a hot watch at msrp.

And what about those looking for a 5711, 5167, 15500, 15202, RM 11-02 etc etc? It is far from a uniquely Rolex phenomenon.

[benlee]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

And what about those looking for a 5711, 5167, 15500, 15202, RM 11-02 etc etc? It is far from a uniquely Rolex phenomenon.

Yes, they are all the same. But somehow, those in the Rolex section comes across to me as rather desperate relatively, pardon the term. I can't be bother with any Rolex nowadays after some BS-talk from my AD. They are just mass-production machine made abiet well made timepieces. I collect what I like and can get my hands on, without jumping thru hoops, and nowadays, I rather enjoy "value watches" ( ie "cheap" ), like Seiko.

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

These are consumer goods - beautiful, yes, but essentially useless consumer goods nonetheless. I am not insecure or naive enough to believe that my life will be fundamentally better, or that I will be meaningfully happier, with even the most amazing watch. And so I smile, politely decline their insinuated offer, thank them for their time and our history, and go get some dumplings at Din Tai Fung instead.
.

Well said. Couldn't agree more.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

And what about those looking for a 5711, 5167, 15500, 15202, RM 11-02 etc etc? It is far from a uniquely Rolex phenomenon.

11-03 not 11-02. Just FYI. :)

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

11-03 not 11-02. Just FYI. :)

Noted! Gotta brush up on my RM knowledge and lingo...

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Noted! Gotta brush up on my RM knowledge and lingo...

One is a dog, the other is grail.

[martinr]

RM 11-02 is an awesome watch especially in white with a green rubber strap. They’re all dogs considering the BS you have to put up with and the price you have to pay to get one. I read Mille came up with the design one day when he was playing around carving a bar of soap.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

One is a dog, the other is grail.

I mean it's all personal taste, but I gotta admit, I just don't see it.

[martinr]

The 11-03 has some tits around the edges so it’s a better design than the 11-02? Koolaid.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by martinr

The 11-03 has some tits around the edges so it’s a better design than the 11-02? Koolaid.

Ah. I totally see it now.

[dauster]

[QUOTE= I read Mille came up with the design one day when he was playing around carving a bar of soap.[/QUOTE]

LOL best comment in a while...

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Ah. I totally see it now.

The 11-02 is also a GMT it has the extra pusher on the left. Kind of like the 5524

Originally Posted by dauster

LOL best comment in a while...

They use clay models for cars and other things... so soap is not really all that far fetched