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Old 3 December 2019, 04:48 PM   #31
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I can only see the point in bundling with Jewelry if it is items you actually want or had planned to buy. Then it makes sense totally.

Otherwise you may aswel go grey and pay the premium without unwanted tatt.
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Old 3 December 2019, 04:52 PM   #32
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I’m going to guess they’re not idiots and would stamp final sale and no returns on the receipt. You would have an uphill battle and deservedly so. Once you shake hands a deal is a deal especially when they are being upfront about it.
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Old 3 December 2019, 05:29 PM   #33
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I feel like that's sacrificing your word, reputation, honor (whatever you want to call it) for a SS Rolex.

Is this what we've come to?.... I hope not


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You mean, like when the AD tells you they have no SS and no ability to get a random person one in a reasonable time? That word?

F that... buy this and you get that... I would buy on the Grey market before I ever engaged in something like this. I would lose all honour, respect and all that other meaningless crap when it comes to watch buying if someone was baiting me like this.
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Old 3 December 2019, 07:05 PM   #34
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Last three have been a root beer and a submariner and white steel Daytona

They started off asking me to buy jewellery of up to 75% of the cost of the watch (100% for the Daytona) in order to get them.

After haggling I had to spend around $1500 on jewellery for the sub date and same again for the root beer. I had to spend $10k on jewellery to get the Daytona which I accept as I got some nice stuff that I’d never have bought before jewellery wise and still got the Daytona

Overall I don’t mind, I wouldn’t go back on my word as that would ruin my relationship with them but it was a question out of curiousity. Nothing more

It’s kind of all fun and games and abroad they’re more honest about what you have to do to buy one. In the U.K. they’re not as straightforward about what you have to do to buy one.
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Old 3 December 2019, 08:06 PM   #35
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You mean, like when the AD tells you they have no SS and no ability to get a random person one in a reasonable time? That word?

F that... buy this and you get that... I would buy on the Grey market before I ever engaged in something like this. I would lose all honour, respect and all that other meaningless crap when it comes to watch buying if someone was baiting me like this.
Good lord! Hyperbole much?

A bundle deal is a straightforward business transaction that is upfront and honest and you are free to accept or decline. It is not like it’s comparable to breaking a solemn vow of fidelity or screwing over a friend for your own gain.

And how is buying at at an inflated price from a reseller more palatable given the only two ways that watch ended up in their hands is either it was part of a bundle deal, or an actual customer bought and flipped it?
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Old 3 December 2019, 08:59 PM   #36
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Good lord! Hyperbole much?

A bundle deal is a straightforward business transaction that is upfront and honest and you are free to accept or decline. It is not like it’s comparable to breaking a solemn vow of fidelity or screwing over a friend for your own gain.

And how is buying at at an inflated price from a reseller more palatable given the only two ways that watch ended up in their hands is either it was part of a bundle deal, or an actual customer bought and flipped it?


While a bundle deal like this is straightforward, it’s still sleazy. Rolex provides these ad’s with inventory to sell to customers without any games. They expect all watches to be in the display cases. Think of the great lengths this brand goes to: every ad has to look the same, watches handled with white gloves, etc. when their brand ambassadors play games like this for their own gains, it tarnishes how we all feel towards rolex.






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Old 3 December 2019, 10:03 PM   #37
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While a bundle deal like this is straightforward, it’s still sleazy. Rolex provides these ad’s with inventory to sell to customers without any games. They expect all watches to be in the display cases. Think of the great lengths this brand goes to: every ad has to look the same, watches handled with white gloves, etc. when their brand ambassadors play games like this for their own gains, it tarnishes how we all feel towards rolex.
Have to say there is zero evidence to suggest Rolex expect dealers to put every watch in their display cabinets and sell to the first person that walks through the door. There is evidence to the contrary though.

I agree that it may come across as sleazy, but that is a matter of perspective.

ADs can easily sell every hot watch they receive to existing customers. In truth, they don’t need any new clients that only want to buy a hot Rolex.

A bundle is an opportunity to purchase something that you are otherwise not going to be offered. Everyone else that a store calls a VIP client has paid their way (often over many years). So Johnny Come-lately has to pay too.

The reason for my original comment was simply there is no reason to be offended by a bundle. It’s an opportunity to jump ‘the list’. Don’t like the offer on the table, move on to the next one. You don’t need that AD and they don’t need you.
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Old 3 December 2019, 11:56 PM   #38
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Those of us in first world countries who deal with major companies (Amazon, Harrods, Sears, etc.) sometimes forget that in other countries, the laws rules and customs are different. I suspect that few places in those tourist areas would accept any kind of return.

If I was the store manager or owner, I wouldn't give you anything back except a swift kick in the backside. Bloody tourist!
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Old 4 December 2019, 02:24 AM   #39
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Its the most ridiculous thing Ive seen this industry. It really sucks when you are already paying so much just to get the watch.
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Old 4 December 2019, 09:57 PM   #40
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Its the most ridiculous thing Ive seen this industry. It really sucks when you are already paying so much just to get the watch.
It’s supply and demand. If a seller has more potential buyers than products they hold the power. When they have more products than buyers then it is the buyer that holds the power.

People don’t report ADs to Rolex if they receive a discount on a slow moving watch....a double standard I think
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Old 4 December 2019, 10:40 PM   #41
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I live in Puerto Rico, USA (Caribbean) and at least here not such thing as under MSRP Rolexes from the AD (or magically appearing high demand SS pieces on bundle sells lol)


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Old 4 December 2019, 11:33 PM   #42
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Been to 4 different Rolex dealers over the course of this year in the Caribbean



Each one has always had some watches in the back



Each one has told me I can have one if I buy some jewellery



Each one has negotiated re how much jewellery I need to spend to buy the watch



It’s a straightforward transaction for them



But question is what would happen if I bought the watch and took the jewellery back for a refund the next day and played them at their own game?!
As long as you would be OK with them if they sold you the jewelry and then said they changed their mind about selling you the watch then sure, go right ahead.

Seriously, its unethical on your part and doing it to a "store" is no different than doing it to a fellow human being. You either agree to the deal and stick to it or you don't and walk away. I think your moral co.pass may have been magnetized.

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Old 4 December 2019, 11:45 PM   #43
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A deal is a deal.
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