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Old 24 December 2019, 03:59 AM   #31
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Omega outshines Tudor in every way in terms of quality. When it comes to materials, movement, finish etc (which is what OP is asking for) the fair comparison would be Omega vs Rolex.
No it does not
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Old 24 December 2019, 04:10 AM   #32
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yeah ... and WTF is wrong with that ??
Or do you really think Rolex is better ?

Take a rolex sub and a Pelagos ... compare them and TEST them ( waterproof, precision, shockproof, etc) You would be very surprised
If those were the criteria, a G-Shock would win every time.
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Old 24 December 2019, 04:25 AM   #33
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If those were the criteria, a G-Shock would win every time.
You have a point

But if we look at something else like the finishing
My speedmaster is not better than any of my Tudor

Somehow people always look at the price
And if an omega costs 7k and a Tudor 4.5k they think the omega must be better

Unfortunately that is not correct

I’m not saying a Tudor is better than an omega.... but just don’t take it for granted that the omega is better than the Tudor

They are in the same league
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Old 24 December 2019, 04:34 AM   #34
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You have a point

But if we look at something else like the finishing
My speedmaster is not better than any of my Tudor




Somehow people always look at the price
And if an omega costs 7k and a Tudor 4.5k they think the omega must be better

Unfortunately that is not correct

I’m not saying a Tudor is better than an omega.... but just don’t take it for granted that the omega is better than the Tudor

They are in the same league
I think they are pretty much equal, but with different styles, Tudors are more tools/ more rustic to put it one way. When I go to my AD Mayors that carries both brands and other I can tell the Omegas in the past few years has tried to regain all ground that lost in the 90's and 2000's with constant change of references, ETA movements and on... in any case now I think Omega's with new in house movements and better finish may be slightly higher. Buy what you like.
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Old 24 December 2019, 04:43 AM   #35
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As a generality Omega are typically higher quality imo, but also much more expensive and overpriced new vs used market. Tudor will outsource some movements and/or share with other brands such as Breitling. The rivet bracelets just are not for me either, I think they are trying waaaayyyy too hard with them. That said Tudor imo are some of the best values on the market. As others have said many different references so tough to make more generalities for me.
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Old 24 December 2019, 04:51 AM   #36
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Problem with omega in recent times is the design is not consistent and the limitless number of ‘limited’ editions. Eg Bond OHMSS 50th anniversary sea-master. Limited to “just” 7007 pieces. That’s a shit ton of a niche watch like this meaning on the secondary market you’ll lose probably half of you ever come to sell. Meanwhile, special editions like the moon watch 50th are rare as hens’ teeth. I.e the one people actually want can’t be had easily at list.

Movement is good, finishing is decent but the value proposition is about more than that to lots of people who like to change watches and lets be honest, who in the current climate is going to pick up brand new omegas at list prices when they can be had at significant discounts lightly used. Meanwhile some tudors are almost (BB58, gmt) hanging on to their value at flipping time. Personally I doubt I’ll ever any of my meagre collection but to serious collectors I think value retention is a big deal regardless of quality differential over Tudor.


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Old 24 December 2019, 04:58 AM   #37
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Looking for some viewpoints:

How does Tudor compare to Omega in terms of quality? (Materials, movement, finish etc)
I would take Omega ahead of Tudor and I would take Rolex ahead of Omega. Omega make some nice watches. To be honest I don't really understand Tudor. I can't see how what they are offering is worth the price they ask.
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Old 24 December 2019, 05:12 AM   #38
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Omega is in a different class to Tudor. It’s not even a comparison.
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Old 24 December 2019, 05:14 AM   #39
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. To be honest I don't really understand Tudor. I can't see how what they are offering is worth the price they ask.
This is so unbelievable
I think everyone that knows enough about watches will say Tudor
Offers probably the best quality for the price they ask.

With a wink you often hear it’s Rolex but without the price you have to pay for the huge marketing

I can understand they are not tour taste but how can you say their price is questionable ?????
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Old 24 December 2019, 05:18 AM   #40
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This is so unbelievable
I think everyone that knows enough about watches will say Tudor
Offers probably the best quality for the price they ask.

With a wink you often hear it’s Rolex but without the price you have to pay for the huge marketing

I can understand they are not tour taste but how can you say their price is questionable ?????
The OP didn’t ask what brand represents best value, he asked which brand people thought was ‘better’.

That in itself is very generic, but, I think based on the replies, you can tell that many people who ‘know’ watches, including myself, would say Omega.
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Old 24 December 2019, 05:23 AM   #41
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I was referring to the modern stuff. I’m considering buying either a SMP/PO or potentially a BB58 (Harrods) while I wait for a Sub allocation.
I had a Planet Ocean 600m Co-axial with their 8900 movement and it was incredibly accurate. I have since moved on from that piece and currently have a Tudor Pelagos which is also very accurate, though not quite as much as the Omega - the Tudor MT5612 runs a little fast (barely). I am wearing my SD4K as I type this and the 3135 movement is rock solid, in line with the Planet Ocean. I just can't see it like I could on the PO.

If you can deal with the thickness of a Planet Ocean I think it's a far better piece in terms of quality and manufacturing than the BB58. Totally different aesthetically though.
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Old 24 December 2019, 05:29 AM   #42
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I am VERY impressed with the newer Omegas. To me Tudor will always be the almost Rolex. So in this can Id rather have an all the way Omega vs an almost Rolex
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Old 24 December 2019, 05:31 AM   #43
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This is so unbelievable
I think everyone that knows enough about watches will say Tudor
Offers probably the best quality for the price they ask.

With a wink you often hear it’s Rolex but without the price you have to pay for the huge marketing

I can understand they are not tour taste but how can you say their price is questionable ?????
If someone can sell you the idea that a Tudor is a Rolex they are good sales people. To put the price into perspective they are asking Grand Seiko prices for Tudor watches. GS and Tudor are not even on the same planet when it comes to quality. Neither are Tudor and Rolex, even though the price of a Tudor is more than half of what a comparable Rolex would cost. If you are spending that much money, why buy a Tudor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P6RMud2-K4

https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...gos-experience

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=531719

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f23/tu...l-1734098.html
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Old 24 December 2019, 05:32 AM   #44
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It is but a BMW M car is “better” than a Ford Focus RS but then it should be given the price differential and then a porsche is better than the bmw. The omega is definitely better than the black bay but again so it should be given it’s about 50 per cent more.

I do like omega models but I can’t swallow the losses at the moment should I need the cash. That’s probably reason not to buy anything so I’ll sit tight for now. I love aqua terra, love seamaster 300 retro, love diver 300m and moonwatch sapphire and grey side and hope to own some of these one day but feel my money would be safer in Rolex and probably Tudor (in the right models..) in these strange times. Appreciate the quality but not the whole value proposition right now if that makes sense. Yeah omega is better but is is better value overall. Not sure it is.


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Old 24 December 2019, 05:39 AM   #45
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Somehow people always look at the price
And if an omega costs 7k and a Tudor 4.5k they think the omega must be better
Yep. And they also omit the fact that "for some reason" the Omegas are heavily discounted on the online market - far from the official recommended retail prices quoted on Omega's website.
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Old 24 December 2019, 05:41 AM   #46
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they both love to crap out very similar watches with slight tweaks and dress it up as another model.
Haha yea right out of the Rolex play book
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Old 24 December 2019, 06:15 AM   #47
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This really depends on the model. My 2017 Speedmaster wasn’t much of a watch compared to my 2017 and 2018 Tudors. Not particularly well finished. Not accurate. Lower quality bracelet. Worse clasp. Nice big box though. And $1500 off retail brand new.

I haven’t checked out the new seamasters though. They look nice.

I do find all omega bracelets garish, even compared to the Tudor’s rivets.
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Old 24 December 2019, 06:20 AM   #48
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Haha yea right out of the Rolex play book
At least Rolex doesn’t release endless variations of watches like both Tudor and Omega
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Old 24 December 2019, 06:24 AM   #49
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This is so unbelievable
I think everyone that knows enough about watches will say Tudor
Offers probably the best quality for the price they ask.

With a wink you often hear it’s Rolex but without the price you have to pay for the huge marketing

I can understand they are not tour taste but how can you say their price is questionable ?????
Omega knocks Tudor out the park IMO. That’s why they are not in the same price band and to the same point why Rolex is in a slightly higher band than omega.

Tudor make a great watch for the price. The price you pay is a fairly unrefined and slab sided case in most cases. Omega finishing is generally better IMO although movements from both are great. Omega are also a bit more daring in their design.

Just depends what you want.
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Old 24 December 2019, 06:32 AM   #50
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For the Newbies: You should do a search on TRF on how heated the “Rolex vs Omega” threads use to get. The Rolex vs Omega comparison is legendary and always the battle cry for some serious technical debate with some heavyweight boxing just for the fun of it. All other brand comparisons are just a school yard tussle.
Tudor won’t be in the same zip code of heated exchanges. You might get a much closer and a more equal debate between Tag Heuer and Tudor.
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For the Newbies: You should do a search on TRF on how heated the “Rolex vs Omega” threads use to get. The Rolex vs Omega comparison is legendary and always the battle cry for some serious technical debate with some heavyweight boxing just for the fun of it. All other brand comparisons are just a school yard tussle.
Tudor won’t be in the same zip code of heated exchanges. You might be get a much closer and a more equal debate between Tag Heuer and Tudor.
That’s all folks.

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I do find all omega bracelets garish, even compared to the Tudor’s rivets.

Really? What, like this one, garish?!




Ok...
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Old 24 December 2019, 06:50 AM   #53
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Omega for me.
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Old 24 December 2019, 06:51 AM   #54
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For the Newbies: You should do a search on TRF on how heated the “Rolex vs Omega” threads use to get. The Rolex vs Omega comparison is legendary and always the battle cry for some serious technical debate with some heavyweight boxing just for the fun of it. All other brand comparisons are just a school yard tussle.
Tudor won’t be in the same zip code of heated exchanges. You might be get a much closer and a more equal debate between Tag Heuer and Tudor.
Yes.

Tudor guys are putting on airs to compare with Omega.
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Old 24 December 2019, 06:52 AM   #55
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I think they offer both fantastic watches
Tudor is perfect value for money and you will enjoy both. I love the SMP more btw
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Old 24 December 2019, 06:59 AM   #56
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Omega needs to stop making quartz versions, imho
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Old 24 December 2019, 07:01 AM   #57
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P.S, talking of people who ‘know’ about watches.

If anyone can tell me what watch my photo was of, I will be seriously, seriously, impressed.
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Diving function - The Omega is rated to a depth of 300m and has an HEV. The Tudor is rated to 200m. Both watches have overbuilt specs for any recreational diver that typically goes to 18m (open water) or 30m (advanced open water) and will serve as a novelty backup timer just fine.
Novelty indeed. The only real backup to your dive computer is another dive computer.
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P.S, talking of people who ‘know’ about watches.

If anyone can tell me what watch my photo was of, I will be seriously, seriously, impressed.
Could be a 2254.50 or 2255.80

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Novelty indeed. The only real backup to your dive computer is another dive computer.


100% agree. I have my D4i and whatever is on the rented BCD. Anything else is a novelty.
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