Is the difference between the two watches really €26,100?

[DoxaDavid]

Originally Posted by doramas

I am not saying that the price difference is not justified, it is simply a question to make a debate that can be interesting

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It’s not really a debatable subject. Apple and an orange. One is a PM piece and the other isn't.

Their value compared to one another is subjective and up to the purchaser.

[schoolboy]

Anyway, that is my answer

That in a way, we are buying the image that comes with the watch

So maybe that is what is worth all the extra cash

Take the SS Daytona for example...

It costs almost three times whwt a Speedmaster costs assuming you buy both are msrp which is nearly impossible for the Daytona

So why do people still go doe the Daytona?

I myself like how the Speedmaster looks more than how the Daytona looks

They’re both chronographs with a max of a 12 hour counter

The omega probably has more history than the Rolex

But if you buy the omega, you’re just another dude with a Speedmaster

Buy a Daytona, and you’re one of the coolest guys or girls on the block

So a watch in a way gives you more than the time

And you have to decide what you want to pay for

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

And the cost of my apple phone is definitely no commensurate with the cost of the materials it is made out of.



Nor is the value of a Picasso commensurate with the value of the paint and canvas.



But my rescue dogs are definitely worth their weight in gold. It's all relative.

Love dogs!

[schoolboy]

Also, the money thing is relative

For me a Daytona or Speedmaster would be cool, I like cars and hiking and could make us of the chrono function I think

But since I’m not made of money, should I buy a Daytona at $13k (even if I could lol) or buy a Speedmaster at $5k and spend other $8k on a cool little sports car that I can maybe do amateur racing in?

Those are the kind of questions that I ask myself because of my budget

If I were rich maybe I would ask myself what the hottest watch of the moment this and get it because why not

If it is hot it must be for a reason and if I end up not liking it I could always sell it or give it away to a good friend

So it’s relative

[MTdweller]

The biggest similarity between the two is the aesthetic of the dial and general color of the metal. For someone that likes the look but doesn’t care about PM or the day of the week, the DD would be an absolute waste of money.

Last year, I upgraded from a TT blue Sub to the all YG version. Difference in MSRP at the time was almost $21k but keep in mind I didn’t pay full retail. All that extra YG made a big difference in the look and feel of the watch. My friends here that love PM know what I’m talking about.

In the end, was the trade worth it? To me, ABSOLUTELY. Are there folks out there that don’t understand or agree? You bet. Do I care? Nope. We’re all different here, that’s part of what makes TRF so entertaining.

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by RHIII

Depends on who you ask.....


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This is the perfect answer to the OPs question

Short and correct

[doramas]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

Anyway, that is my answer

That in a way, we are buying the image that comes with the watch

So maybe that is what is worth all the extra cash

Take the SS Daytona for example...

It costs almost three times whwt a Speedmaster costs assuming you buy both are msrp which is nearly impossible for the Daytona

So why do people still go doe the Daytona?

I myself like how the Speedmaster looks more than how the Daytona looks

They’re both chronographs with a max of a 12 hour counter

The omega probably has more history than the Rolex

But if you buy the omega, you’re just another dude with a Speedmaster

Buy a Daytona, and you’re one of the coolest guys or girls on the block

So a watch in a way gives you more than the time

And you have to decide what you want to pay for

I agree.

[904VT]

PM and a more prestigious movement will do that.

[Gary Busey]

18 carat gold. 75% purity
1400$/ounce...maybe they (Rolex) bot it at 1000$/ounce.

So whats the per ounce price on this extra gold? do the math

lets see... 30K give or take at 1400$ an ounce. thats 25-30 ounces.... around 600 grams
dont know how much this weights. im guessing 200 grams (@ 75% purity)

there is a sucker born every minute. has nothing to do with prestige. Movement is prestige, worksmanship is prestige, history is prestige. marking up gold 3-4x for no reason, thats nothing. Thats Rolex laughing.
of course, there are many who won't care.
but for all the expensive watches i have, i cannot fall for that. It goes against my grain.

The only difference between the 2 is scrap metal.

some just dont care. and thats fine.

[EndlessEight]

President bracelet alone is like 5-6k more than the DJ

[Mr. Miami]

Too me it’s worth it. I understand in terms of scrap value it’s not worth the difference, but the prestige and luxury with the PM is why it’s substantially more. Just my opinion, I know 99% of other people may disagree.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by doramas

I am not saying that the price difference is not justified, it is simply a question to make a debate that can be interesting

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It is an interesting contrast and question.

I’ve had full gold and it didn’t suit me so I say, no it is not worth it.

I would add about 1/3 of that extra to get an all steel day date though

[Tools]

A better comparison would be the gold Datejust vs the Day Date. Not much point in price comparisons/values between a SS and a PM model.

[daOnlyBG]

Originally Posted by doramas

I know that the Day-Date is all white gold and the Datejust is steel and the bezel fluted in white gold, and apart from that the Day-Date has the day of the week, but here comes my question. Is the difference between the two watches really €26,100?



I hope an interesting debate will come up.

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Nope.

That's one of many reasons why so few people purchase PM watches at MSRP.

[alphadweller]

For someone who has the money and likes the feel and heft of white gold, stainless steel is not going to cut it. If I was loaded I'd go for gold, personally.

[JohnTz]

Of course it’s worth it. Night and day between the two.

[jinikari01]

Originally Posted by RTG

With this logic how did you ever come to own any Rolex? Is a DateJust really worth €6,000 more than a Timex? Is a Submariner really worth €7000 more than a Seiko?

Honest question here. As someone who presumably spent thousands on an overpriced steel watch that happened to say Rolex. How can you not understand somebody else justifying spending much more on a similar watch in precious metals?

Preach brotha.

[nachopc]

Originally Posted by Verdi

Why buy a DD when you can buy a DJ



Why buy a DJ when you can buy an OP



Why buy a new OP when you can get pre-owned one



Why buy a Rolex when you can buy an Omega for less



Why buy an Omega when you can buy a Tissot



Why buy a watch when you can check the time on your mobile phone?

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[42itus]

I think that people that can afford the DD don't consider the price difference.

Hermes sells bags that range from $5 to $20+. At least with the DD DJ comparison you're getting a more complicated movement.

[torrente]

Value is subjective, in my case I fell in love with the dial and the bracelet. I had the occasion to celebrate and went for it.
I love the infinite silverish tones and how WG changes depending on the light and surfaces, usually you see more golden tone on the brushed links.

[faimag]

Yes it’s worth it

[Mr DateJust]

Wish I had got a DD a few years ago when they were just about in the realm of being something I could justify. A 36mm DD is my grail piece but look at the price of them now. Never going to happen.

[doramas]

Originally Posted by Tools

A better comparison would be the gold Datejust vs the Day Date. Not much point in price comparisons/values between a SS and a PM model.

In the current catalogue, what is the reference for Datejust all gold? Doesn't exist.
The comparison is a Datejust steel with a white gold bezel

[AK797]

That is the luxury premium Rolex ascribes to their PM models, its up to the individual if they can afford it or want it.