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hflee55 · 20 April 2009, 11:28 AM

For peace of mind. i would hate to be scammed.

Lol-x · 20 April 2009, 11:47 AM

If you like vintage then you really have no choice anyway.

Mosco · 20 April 2009, 11:49 AM

On a day I buy a new Rolex for myself (or any other brand, for that matter), you will see a bunch of these:

Many people have more brains than money - they own 60+ watches. How much wrist time do you think those get? So, I have come across many Rolexes that ARE practically new, Z or newer, that have been worn twice at the most, and I buy them at 50% or more off list. And even then - it is still new to me!

Jason71 · 20 April 2009, 11:53 AM

^^ Same here. I have only purchased the DSSD new from an AD because I bought it last year when they first came out. All the rest have been pre-loved. I could care less about my name being on the warranty card because I plan to never sell any of them.

nylawbiz · 20 April 2009, 12:04 PM

It really depends on the model. I have been able to buy my watches from an AD ay prices that are compariable or even better than gray market. Of course if I was buying vintage, then it's a different story.

I woudl say I'm willing ot pay maybe up to 5% more from an AD than the gray market. Once the spread gets more than that, the decision becomes harder.

lm21 · 20 April 2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emagni

Maybe we can all funnel out purchase power to one AD and get a consistent 30% to 35% off on new watches...

Now you're talking! Have a particular AD in mind?? Perhaps one in Houston???

emagni · 20 April 2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosco

On a day I buy a new Rolex for myself (or any other brand, for that matter), you will see a bunch of these:

Many people have more brains than money - they own 60+ watches. How much wrist time do you think those get? So, I have come across many Rolexes that ARE practically new, Z or newer, that have been worn twice at the most, and I buy them at 50% or more off list. And even then - it is still new to me!

With that said, I say keep both!!! LOL

emagni · 20 April 2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lm21

Now you're talking! Have a particular AD in mind?? Perhaps one in Houston???

Our family AD is located in Louisiana so it's easier from a sales tax point of view since I live in Houston ;-)

Bisquitlips · 20 April 2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by submariner16610

Some people would really like to go to the ad's to have peace of mind. there are people who really wants brnd new.

This statement spurred another thought in me.

Peace of mind? There is something to be said in having the peace of mind that you didn't have to spend more than you had to for a fine timepiece. And the piece of mind not having to pay taxes.

walds11 · 20 April 2009, 01:56 PM

Me, me

Let someone else take the intial hit

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Originally Posted by mailman

Someone has to buy BNIB so others can buy them used down the road.

LocoNBroko · 20 April 2009, 02:45 PM

That is the same feeling I get every time I make my way back down to Miami and call my very favorite lady... For that 10 seconds or less (oops, sorry that was from a movie I just watched) I feel special. Again, that is until I pay and walk out the door!
There are so many BNIB clear carded Rolex's in Southern California on the second hand market, there there is almost no reason to buy from an AD. BUT, if that is what is desired, the AD's are willing to work with you.

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Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Excellent question Richard....

There is just something about walking in to a fine store like that, (usually) being treated kind of special for a little while (at least until you pay and walk out the door), and just feeling... important ( I guess).

adr · 20 April 2009, 02:53 PM

buying new is like getting a virgin & working on it.
pre-loved dealers here hold their price strong & their people skill out.

mdtddd2007 · 20 April 2009, 03:28 PM

It all depends on how much I am saving...if not too much different I'll buy New from AD. And w/my name on it and be peace of mind.

dra44 · 20 April 2009, 03:32 PM

I've purchased my Daytona, my wife's DJ, my PAM 104, as well as thousands of dollars worth of John Hardy jewelry all from the same AD. When Panerai announced the new Pam 28 Special Edition at Geneva this year, I called my AD. I'm now #1 on his list and will be getting the first watch that he gets in.......That's why I buy from an AD

Bisquitlips · 21 April 2009, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosco

On a day I buy a new Rolex for myself (or any other brand, for that matter), you will see a bunch of these:

Many people have more brains than money - they own 60+ watches. How much wrist time do you think those get? So, I have come across many Rolexes that ARE practically new, Z or newer, that have been worn twice at the most, and I buy them at 50% or more off list. And even then - it is still new to me!

Agreed Greg!

Twice as many watches that way.

Alcan · 21 April 2009, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

And I don't like having things other people touched. Especially on a place as intimate as the wrist!

That's not a problem for me, and I'm pretty sure these were on someone else's wrists before mine.

RLX-lvr · 21 April 2009, 10:05 AM

The GMTII C I have now, will be the one and only new watch I'll ever buy.

All others will be used or BNIB from our wonderful members we have here.

Only wish I found this forum years ago.

emagni · 21 April 2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLX-lvr

The GMTII C I have now, will be the one and only new watch I'll ever buy.

All others will be used or BNIB from our wonderful members we have here.

Only wish I found this forum years ago.

Agreed

Bisquitlips · 21 April 2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emagni

Agreed

Double agreed!!

Bisquitlips · 21 April 2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

That's not a problem for me, and I'm pretty sure these were on someone else's wrists before mine.

landroverking · 21 April 2009, 11:20 AM

Of the 10 Rolex's I have bought thru the years 4 came BNIB from an AD.
I think the only way I would use an AD in these times, is:
1) Big discout
2) lay-a-way
3) time paymensts with no interest.

gr8philosopher · 21 April 2009, 11:28 AM

I think one of the reason is that you might want to have your name on the warranty card as the first owner of a Rolex at least once in a lifetime :)

haakon59 · 21 April 2009, 11:46 AM

The major qualm I have about buying used is that many people resize the bracelet and I need the band to be the same as it was when purchased at the dealer. I used to be a little uncomfortable about used, but increasingly, I feel used is the way to go. I just have to make sure to ask about the band size and how many links were removed, etc.

Singslinger · 21 April 2009, 05:23 PM

I've always bought new from the same AD because I get great service, extras thrown in (diaries, watch pouches, polishing cloths, books, magazines etc) and peace of mind. My AD recently swapped a brand new watch for another one at my request - despite the guarantee card already having been filled out with my details. I'm not sure how many grey dealers could do the same.

Still, with grey dealers offering very attractive prices for new, BNIB and secondhand watches, I think it's very much a matter of personal choice whether we buy from an AD or not.

JJ Irani · 21 April 2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUB4Me

Freshness??? Its a watch not a Banana.

Says who?

chenx15 · 21 April 2009, 06:03 PM

i actually got better deals with my AD than with any other grey dealer.

trickyric · 21 April 2009, 08:07 PM

the problem I have with the grey market is you never know if the watch is real unless the guy you really know the guy you are buying from and even then some copies are so good that they might get fooled.
I pruchased a new sub from a reliable grey guy, but never fealt kosher so I had it opened and check by Mayors then sold it and went to an AD .
this is just my pshychosis though

Jimbits76 · 21 April 2009, 09:41 PM

Sentimental reasons here.

I have a Rolex watch with my gradfather's name on the papers.

My father has a Rolex watch with his name on the papers.

I have a Rolex watch with my name on the papers.

It meant a little something to me and I was prepared to pay the extra, as I would for my son when the time comes.

J

1Gunner · 21 April 2009, 10:43 PM

So would you rationalize buying a used car over a new car the same way?

Sounds like the majority in this thread do....

20 April 2009, 11:47 AM	#32
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20 April 2009, 11:49 AM	#33
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	On a day I buy a new Rolex for myself (or any other brand, for that matter), you will see a bunch of these: Many people have more brains than money - they own 60+ watches. How much wrist time do you think those get? So, I have come across many Rolexes that ARE practically new, Z or newer, that have been worn twice at the most, and I buy them at 50% or more off list. And even then - it is still new to me! __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

20 April 2009, 11:53 AM	#34
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	^^ Same here. I have only purchased the DSSD new from an AD because I bought it last year when they first came out. All the rest have been pre-loved. I could care less about my name being on the warranty card because I plan to never sell any of them. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

21 April 2009, 06:03 PM	#56
chenx15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: somewhere Posts: 2,891	i actually got better deals with my AD than with any other grey dealer. __________________ 16 GS Titles 16 AMS titles (1 short of Agassi) 23 Consecutive GS semifinals 17/18 of the last GS finals, 237 consecutive weeks #1 5 consecutive wimbledon + 1 = 6 cups 5 consecutive US open 4 Australian open 1 Sweet french open a crown for every achievement The Greatest Of All Time loves Rolex

20 April 2009, 11:28 AM	#31
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	For peace of mind. i would hate to be scammed.

20 April 2009, 12:04 PM	#35
nylawbiz Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: New York Watch: too many Posts: 705	It really depends on the model. I have been able to buy my watches from an AD ay prices that are compariable or even better than gray market. Of course if I was buying vintage, then it's a different story. I woudl say I'm willing ot pay maybe up to 5% more from an AD than the gray market. Once the spread gets more than that, the decision becomes harder.

20 April 2009, 02:53 PM	#42
adr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Malaysia Posts: 185	buying new is like getting a virgin & working on it. pre-loved dealers here hold their price strong & their people skill out.

20 April 2009, 03:28 PM	#43
mdtddd2007 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: U.S Watch: Rolex, PP, AP, GS Posts: 5,785	It all depends on how much I am saving...if not too much different I'll buy New from AD. And w/my name on it and be peace of mind.

20 April 2009, 03:32 PM	#44
dra44 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dave Location: New Jersey Watch: 116523 White Dial Posts: 44	I've purchased my Daytona, my wife's DJ, my PAM 104, as well as thousands of dollars worth of John Hardy jewelry all from the same AD. When Panerai announced the new Pam 28 Special Edition at Geneva this year, I called my AD. I'm now #1 on his list and will be getting the first watch that he gets in.......That's why I buy from an AD

21 April 2009, 10:05 AM	#47
RLX-lvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Toronto Posts: 1,947	The GMTII C I have now, will be the one and only new watch I'll ever buy. All others will be used or BNIB from our wonderful members we have here. Only wish I found this forum years ago.

21 April 2009, 11:20 AM	#51
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Of the 10 Rolex's I have bought thru the years 4 came BNIB from an AD. I think the only way I would use an AD in these times, is: 1) Big discout 2) lay-a-way 3) time paymensts with no interest.

21 April 2009, 11:28 AM	#52
gr8philosopher Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Jom Polparsi Location: Madison, WI Watch: Sub date, EXII Posts: 27	I think one of the reason is that you might want to have your name on the warranty card as the first owner of a Rolex at least once in a lifetime :)

21 April 2009, 11:46 AM	#53
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	The major qualm I have about buying used is that many people resize the bracelet and I need the band to be the same as it was when purchased at the dealer. I used to be a little uncomfortable about used, but increasingly, I feel used is the way to go. I just have to make sure to ask about the band size and how many links were removed, etc.

21 April 2009, 05:23 PM	#54
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	I've always bought new from the same AD because I get great service, extras thrown in (diaries, watch pouches, polishing cloths, books, magazines etc) and peace of mind. My AD recently swapped a brand new watch for another one at my request - despite the guarantee card already having been filled out with my details. I'm not sure how many grey dealers could do the same. Still, with grey dealers offering very attractive prices for new, BNIB and secondhand watches, I think it's very much a matter of personal choice whether we buy from an AD or not.

21 April 2009, 08:07 PM	#57
trickyric Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: florida Watch: Daytona ss Posts: 51	the problem I have with the grey market is you never know if the watch is real unless the guy you really know the guy you are buying from and even then some copies are so good that they might get fooled. I pruchased a new sub from a reliable grey guy, but never fealt kosher so I had it opened and check by Mayors then sold it and went to an AD . this is just my pshychosis though

21 April 2009, 09:41 PM	#58
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Sentimental reasons here. I have a Rolex watch with my gradfather's name on the papers. My father has a Rolex watch with his name on the papers. I have a Rolex watch with my name on the papers. It meant a little something to me and I was prepared to pay the extra, as I would for my son when the time comes. J

21 April 2009, 10:43 PM	#59
1Gunner "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: down by the river Watch: 16613,16030, BM Posts: 77	So would you rationalize buying a used car over a new car the same way? Sounds like the majority in this thread do....

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