14060M values help

[harvey]

Originally Posted by cm70

I have the same ... NOS ... all stickers
very rare to find ... :) and to sell away ... :)

Not that rare I bet.

I have a one still stickered which I bought in April 2009 from Ernest Jones with a 10% discount. Think I paid about £2250ish.

[cm70]

Originally Posted by illiguy

Let’s see some pics!

I have only 6 posts (this including) ... I will soon be able

[Alessi156]

Originally Posted by m j b

To me that is a ridiculously high price since I sold my 14060M for half of that several years ago. But I fear that it is the going rate, since it seems that everything with a crown on it has rocketed up in value.

My only caveat would be that it be serviced by Rolex, which will help you tremendously should you decide to sell it in the future. A service by someone else is likely just as thorough, but it does affect resale.

And of course, make sure that it hasn't been polished to death.

Best of luck. I still think that's one of the best Rolex models out there and still kick myself for selling it.

Don’t feel too bad. I sold my 5513 from 1971 about 6 years ago for a bit less than you probably sold your sub for. Regret doesn’t even begin to explain it😂 This is the way of Rolex over the last 15 years or so.

[Big Jay]

I have a 2 liner 14060M. Value seems to be all over the place based on year, condition, box and papers. Earlier versions (F serial) seem to be in the $6500-$7500 range full set (box papers). As you get newer, it jumps to $7500-$8500. I couldn't see paying more than $9000 for an absolutely mint 14060M with box/papers. $10,000 to me just seems too high.

I paid $4750 for mine in 2016, 8/10 condition with box/papers.

[cm70]

Originally Posted by harvey

Not that rare I bet.

I have a one still stickered which I bought in April 2009 from Ernest Jones with a 10% discount. Think I paid about £2250ish.

Yours should be a M or V serial ... marvellous one !!
well ... for sure a NOS 14060M is not "rare"... I would better say "not common"

[cm70]

Originally Posted by harvey

Not that rare I bet.

I have a one still stickered which I bought in April 2009 from Ernest Jones with a 10% discount. Think I paid about £2250ish.

sure not "rare" ... "not common" is better ...
your 2009 should be a M or V .... ?
here is mine, alphanumeric, 2014 in the card ... I believe this was one of the last to be manufactured/sold ...

[Sublovin]

Since you asked, I think it’s ridiculously overpriced. It’s more than a new Sub. These sat in my dealers cases at $5,500 back in the day. If you want to spend 10 G’s in one, go for it, but I think it’s silly to put it mildly

[Big Jay]

Originally Posted by Sublovin

Since you asked, I think it’s ridiculously overpriced. It’s more than a new Sub. These sat in my dealers cases at $5,500 back in the day. If you want to spend 10 G’s in one, go for it, but I think it’s silly to put it mildly

Little more to the point, but I agree. I would just attempt to build a relationship with an AD and get a new one.

In fact, I'm debating selling mine and adding money in and going new.

[Sublovin]

Originally Posted by Big Jay

Little more to the point, but I agree. I would just attempt to build a relationship with an AD and get a new one.

In fact, I'm debating selling mine and adding money in and going new.

Yep. Smart move. I like my old 16610 but I sure as hell wouldn’t pay more for it than a new one! Too bad cars don’t go up after we drive them for a few years and beat the hell out of them.
I’m all for true collectible vintage, but it’s gotten to a point where people are just paying stupid money for an old Sub.

[Evad3]

8K sounds right on the money, assuming its in very good condition.

10-12K for a NOS

[Evad3]

Originally Posted by cm70

sure not "rare" ... "not common" is better ...
your 2009 should be a M or V .... ?
here is mine, alphanumeric, 2014 in the card ... I believe this was one of the last to be manufactured/sold ...

[illiguy]

Originally Posted by Evad3

Very nice. 14060M is one of my all-time favorite references (alongside the 116610LN) for Submariners.

What year are your NOS on the warranties? Random Serials? Twice as nice!

This one is a 2014 Warranty Card Random Serial.

[Evad3]

Originally Posted by illiguy

Very nice. 14060M is one of my all-time favorite references (alongside the 116610LN) for Submariners.

What year are your NOS on the warranties? Random Serials? Twice as nice!

The later M's are one of the best IMO, some of the modern touches but still the classic shape. The 6 digit bracelets are still far superior for me though

These are both dated Mid 2012 and random serials

Edit: Just seen your pic, very nice! Did you manage to get it yourself from an AD safe? must have been in there for 2 years!

[zen123]

Beauties

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[illiguy]

AD Safe 2019 and untouched. A miracle find that a friend acquired, then to me, and has now passed on to a better home. Likely now touched and de-stickered and properly worn like yours ought to be!

Note: The 2014 date was written onto the card. It was a moot point because the 5-year warranty had already lapsed at that point. Card was originally blank except for AD stamp. So, this was truly “NOS”.

Originally Posted by Evad3

The later M's are one of the best IMO, some of the modern touches but still the classic shape. The 6 digit bracelets are still far superior for me though

These are both dated Mid 2012 and random serials

Edit: Just seen your pic, very nice! Did you manage to get it yourself from an AD safe? must have been in there for 2 years!

[cm70]

Hi... People of the NOS 14060M RRR !!!
:)

[Nickshangs]

Originally Posted by Big Jay

Little more to the point, but I agree. I would just attempt to build a relationship with an AD and get a new one.

In fact, I'm debating selling mine and adding money in and going new.

trying to build a relationship with an AD is like looking for lord lucan riding on a unicorn in your local park in the UK!

however, i have a 124060, the newest version on the ND SUB and for me they are 2 different watches.


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[Nickshangs]

and here she is, what a beauty

[Big Jay]

Originally Posted by Nickshangs

trying to build a relationship with an AD is like looking for lord lucan riding on a unicorn in your local park in the UK!

however, i have a 124060, the newest version on the ND SUB and for me they are 2 different watches.


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Not necessarily in all cases. Very difficult, yes. Not impossible though.

[woodruffm]

Originally Posted by Nickshangs

and here she is, what a beauty

Congratulations mate, very nice.

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[csaltphoto]

Originally Posted by Nickshangs

and here she is, what a beauty

Looks good! Nice and crisp. You will love it. Very easy to wear.

[Evad3]

Originally Posted by Nickshangs

and here she is, what a beauty

Congrats! That wears really well on your wrist

[Max 66]

Being the price of a brand new 124060 £6,450.00 why should someone pay £8,000.00 for an old second hand 14060M?
The answer is because someone prefers the original 5 digit Submariner; if so a watch that has been polished with bezel and crystal replaced is no longer a coeval watch, hence to me it doesn't worth the price.

Having said that, my personal opinion about the 5 digit no date Submariner is that the first version 14060 with Tritium Swiss-T<25 / 2 line dial (1988 - 1999) is the most representative and the preferred one; indeed to the contrary of the 16610, the last updated version 14060M (2000 - 2012) did not benefit of the SEL bracelet nor of the updated no-holes lugs.

[Nickshangs]

Originally Posted by Max 66

Being the price of a brand new 124060 £6,450.00 why should someone pay £8,000.00 for an old second hand 14060M?
The answer is because someone prefers the original 5 digit Submariner; if so a watch that has been polished with bezel and crystal replaced is no longer a coeval watch, hence to me it doesn't worth the price.

Having said that, my personal opinion about the 5 digit no date Submariner is that the first version 14060 with Tritium Swiss-T&lt;25 / 2 line dial (1988 - 1999) is the most representative and the preferred one; indeed to the contrary of the 16610, the last updated version 14060M (2000 - 2012) did not benefit of the SEL bracelet nor of the updated no-holes lugs.

some good and very valid points, however the 124060 is a waiting list watch, and that’s if you can get on the waiting list. if you actually want one in the uk, you either have to be lucky and have a relationship with an AD or pay the going price on the grey market which is 9.5-10k at the moment. that’s the reality. I managed to get hold of one for the princely sum of 9.5k, that was considered as a bit of a bargain.

secondly the preference for the 14060 and the 14060M is a different argument, other than the newer movement there’s not much in it. there seem to be many more 2 liners around to the rarer 4 liners, the lug holes are part of the charm of owning a vintage/classic rolex but again that’s just my opinion.

[Nickshangs]

and here it is next to my 16600, i think the light caught my 16600 slightly better in this pic, will take more. both classic rolex sports watches and in my opinion are rolex’s finest divers ever

[Evad3]

Originally Posted by Nickshangs

and here it is next to my 16600, i think the light caught my 16600 slightly better in this pic, will take more. both classic rolex sports watches and in my opinion are rolex’s finest divers ever

Very nice Nick, judging by the lugs both look to be in amazing shape

[Nickshangs]

Originally Posted by Evad3

Very nice Nick, judging by the lugs both look to be in amazing shape

thank you dave


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[Steph-paul]

Congrats for your new 14160 M ,it’s a beautiful watch !
I have a 2010 , I think it’s a G serial number, a classic beauty.
Also I like your SD, well done !

[Nickshangs]

Originally Posted by Steph-paul

Congrats for your new 14160 M ,it’s a beautiful watch !
I have a 2010 , I think it’s a G serial number, a classic beauty.
Also I like your SD, well done !

thank you so much


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