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[dmash]

Originally Posted by EEpro

For what it's worth my Lange moon phase exhibits no flaws on the polished gold hands or markers under 10x magnification. I was shocked.

The only signs (under 10x) that it was even made by humans and not aliens is a tiny "hard water stain" visible at one angle on the rotor. Likely due to inadvertent air drying of a water droplet after ultrasonic cleaning.

Lange is on another level, I would actually suggest people DO use a loupe with their watches

[G.Montag]

For those who think that this issue is unique to Rolex, I would suggest checking out the thread below.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...=749871&page=2

For comparison, Patek Philippe:



Lange:

[thorm]

Originally Posted by G.Montag

For those who think that this issue is unique to Rolex, I would suggest checking out the thread below.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...=749871&page=2

For comparison, Patek Philippe:



Lange:

But these imperfections are not comparable to the rolex in the video I'd say. Here you are showing the reflection of the underside of a second hand, which is never treated in any watch that I know of anyway.

[G.Montag]

Originally Posted by thorm

But these imperfections are not comparable to the rolex in the video I'd say. Here you are showing the reflection of the underside of a second hand, which is never treated in any watch that I know of anyway.

Yes, but most watches do not have mirrors on the dial. And what about the nasty rust-like stains on the Patek?

P.S. I agree that the scratches/dings on the OP minute hand are inexcusable. What I'm saying is that such issues are not unique to Rolex.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by thorm

But these imperfections are not comparable to the rolex in the video I'd say. Here you are showing the reflection of the underside of a second hand, which is never treated in any watch that I know of anyway.

And only visible 16.6% of the time (and under magnification) as the small seconds hand transits the moon which subtends 10 seconds of the minute.

I was more in awe of the flawless moon.

[77T]

Originally Posted by thorm

That's disappointing. Judging by the videos we see on that channel with magnification, there is such scratches on some rolex hands (just not to the extreme seen in this particular video), and if they're not willing to fix that, then they are lowering the standard rolex is supposed to have. Lowering the standard compared to other brands that are doing better. Not a good direction to take.

As the vlogger often said, the highly magnified issues he cited are not visible to an unaided eye.

Loupemania is not normal in a daily-worn watch owner. Just my opinion: try to resist it and you’ll be happier.

You will soon have easily visible dings of your own to deal with.


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[thorm]

Originally Posted by 77T

As the vlogger often said, the highly magnified issues he cited are not visible to an unaided eye.

Loupemania is not normal in a daily-worn watch owner. Just my opinion: try to resist it and you’ll be happier.

You will soon have easily visible dings of your own to deal with.


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Depend on the type of quality issues. I am not expecting perfection like Lange watches, I just want them to keep consistent to the level of finish they mean to deliver, which I assume is this

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by thorm

Depend on the type of quality issues. I am not expecting perfection like Lange watches, I just want them to keep consistent to the level of finish they mean to deliver, which I assume is this

I did a quick check of 2 BLROs and a Daytona at 15x and none look this good. They have tiny flecks all over and the edges have varying smoothness.

I'm fine with it though. I don't think Rolex intends for these to look good under a loupe.

Same watch from slightly different angle looks good.

[Car32]

I recently discovered his channel, videos are awesome. I love his comparisons and the photography/production is top notch, I especially love the 3rd party new wrist shots so you can see how the watch looks on someone. Very useful. But look at Hafiz's other videos, plenty of scratches on the hands, dust around the lime plots and on the dial of almost all the Rolexes he's reviewed, but nothing like the OP41. And don't look at the Tudor BB58 blue video if you don't want to see terrible hand scratches!!! But as long as they're visible to the naked eye I'd be fine with it.

I love my Rolex's but have had plenty of problems. This is a statement directly from their website: "The Rolex Classic collection consists of models that combines Rolex’s know-how and high standards of perfection in an approach that heightens watchmaking heritage in its most timeless form." IMO, they shouldn't use the word "perfection its a straight lie and I have definitely been disillusioned given their reputation for "perfection". They're simply not.

Here is my list of issues, the number of Rolexes Ive owned WITH problems far outnumber the ones that haven't.

Sub 114060 big spec of dust on dial - since sold

ladies TT 28mm datejust - crown kept coming unscrewed; fixed under warranty at RSC, they said something like the stem was too long, which is just bizarre

ceramic Daytona white dial - after 3 years started making rotor noise that sounded like pulling on a zipper; was worried rotor was rubbing against case or movement; took to RSC under warranty - got it back and they said it needed oil, also with a big scratch on side of case which I let go; a year later (this past summer), same thing. Finally took it in, came back with sweep hand misaligned. Just got it back again, after watching Hafiz's videos, took a closer look at hands, and there is either a spec of dust or scratch on the minute hand, can't really tell and not sure if it was there to begin with or if it was RSC.

Ceramic black dial Daytona 1. Bought from grey dealer. Noticed the entire right side of the big block of text at the top was crooked and started sloping down just enough to be noticeable. Sold it when got call for black Daytona from AD

Ceramic black dial Daytona 2. Noticed parts of dial where it met the sub dials were very rough at the edges (not smooth like my white) - not really noticeable unless light hit it just right and you saw the uneven reflection. Sweep hand also slightly misaligned. Figured I'd wait til close to end of warranty period to address. After 2 years, power reserve all of a sudden didn't last more than 24 hrs and winding was rough. Brought it in to RSC, they had trouble seeing the dial imperfection but noticed the sweep hand right away. They finally agreed to placed the dial but that could be 6 months+ because they have to send it back and get a new one from Geneva, and the Swiss are....Swiss.

Polar Explorer 16570. bought second hand, took in for service. They did a good job overall, except polishing on 9 o'clock side was not perfectly circular/smooth, when in the right light, you can see the very small bumps as if they just polished a couple millimeters, adjusted the angle, polished another couple of millimeters, adjusted again, and so on. After a few weeks of getting back, noticed bezel is slightly misaligned by a couple of degrees. Not enough for me to go back and have them fix it quite frankly.

Sub 124060 - noticed very slight dent on side of minute hand, only noticeable when in the right light and you can tell because the reflection off the side of the hand isn't even.

Tudor BB 58 blue. There is a small crater in one of the lume plots. Only noticeable in bright light where it creates a small shadow at certain angles.

the two watches I own that I haven't noticed problems are:

BLNR, been about two years.

Blue dial Yachtmaster. Only had for a few weeks, haven't noticed anything so far.

Don't let Rolex fan boys tell you Rolex is perfect, they definitely have their QC issues.

[77T]

Originally Posted by thorm

Depend on the type of quality issues. I am not expecting perfection like Lange watches, I just want them to keep consistent to the level of finish they mean to deliver, which I assume is this

If you can’t put the loupe away, you may want to switch brands and cancel your OP41 order - otherwise you’ll be disappointed.


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[owl.]

Originally Posted by thorm

Hey fellow rolex owners.

I have a question for you. I saw this video on youtube today and I was wondering if you guys have some personal thoughts or experiences with how Rolex QC is like. Do this video show typical QC for Rolex, or is this just a very unlucky pick? Have you checked your watches, do they display same QC-flaws?

Image from video:



Here is the video in which it shows a lot of QC-issues:
https://youtu.be/hsPZURSJEDQ?t=408

OP...

If you look at the crown on the rehaut of the watch, many times it doesn’t line up with the 12 o’clock marker on the dial of the watch

I’ve done research and some say that the rehaut is part of the case, and can’t be rotated, so if something is off, then it is the dial, that maybe when the watchmaker put it on, he/she didn’t align it perfectly using the dial feet

Something like that.

Anyway....

You can see this “issue” on a $6000 oyster perpetual, and on a $36k full gold Rolex

Look into it; and you will quickly realize that there is no such thing as perfection with Rolex

[alphadweller]

I've seen the blue and the yellow OP41s at the AD. Took a loupe with me, always do. I asked if it was ok to have a look, SA said no problem. They were flawless at x5 magnification. Bringing the electronic microscope would have been a bit much but on a serious note a loupe sounds reasonable to me to avoid QC issues.

[robsterguy]

I have some QC issues with my BLRO, but I’m giving Rolex a chance to sort it out by sending it to RSC via my AD in January.
I have uneven lume on the 6 o’clock marker, that can be seen without a loupe, and a hair on the datewheel.
Check out my BLRO QC issues post.

[MrMercedes]

that is really unbelievable

[owl.]

Originally Posted by robsterguy

I have some QC issues with my BLRO, but I’m giving Rolex a chance to sort it out by sending it to RSC via my AD in January.
I have uneven lume on the 6 o’clock marker, that can be seen without a loupe, and a hair on the datewheel.
Check out my BLRO QC issues post.

You’re giving Rolex a chance?

Wow.

Hahahaha

Most guys on here are dying for Rolex to give them a chance to buy that watch