The "Hot", "In" and "Rare" Rolexes...

[mike]

Hot , In, and Rare covers a lot of ground.

I'd say as to current pieces the GMT IIc is "Hot" and "In" as is the GV, but neither are rare.

As to collectable know one can say with any certainty. I still go with the LV or COSC 14060M if they become discontinued.

[dskjl]

Well I don't really know but if Rolex works at all like Porsche than the last of the traditional breeds usually rise to the top of the collectors list. For example and 1995-1998 (US market distribution years) air cooled 993 (turbo, C4S, cab C4,) are holding their value better or even improving in value over the water cooled modern Porsche’s. That is not to say that a modern day water cooled car won't become collectable as they too may become the last of a breed someday, but right now there future collectability does not look good. Of course there will always be the rare limited production stand-outs that are more obvious future collectables, but the last of a "great" something often becomes desirable to those whom appreciate its contribution to their blood line.

Just my

[allanofcalifornia]

I think the Yachtmaster II would be the hot rare item if Rolex was to discontinue it!! Hot items are usually those produced in small quantities!!


Allan

[mborkow]

I don't think the 14060m will be discontinued. I believe they will continue to make that watch as is (lug holes & hollow end links) for many years to come.

[ROLEX MAN]

If you have some spare "dosh" invest in one of these>>>>>>>>>>

[karmatp]

Nothing made that past decade will ever be rare. Rolex produces way to many watches these days for any of them to be worth a darn 30 years down the road. Even models that people seem to think have low production numbers were produced in the tens of thousands.

[Deep Sea]

Originally Posted by al_bongo

I have a COSC 14060M myself. What is it with the 14060M and its imminent demise? It wasn't discontinued this year - a lot of people were convinced Basel 2009 would see the announcement.

If I was a betting man I'd put a large sum on it not being discontinued next year either.

It is a hot Rolex for sure, but it's not rare.

Let's face it there are a few of them kicking about even without another full years production.

It would make sense to me that Rolex would keep the 14060M in the line-up. It's their entry into the Submariner, and relatively low cost compared to the others. It represent an icon for many, and keeping it would likely provide the entry into the higher-end Rolex for many up-and-coming professionals, and it's a great gift Rolex.

Who knows for sure. I do know if they decide to eliminate it, I'll have one in my collection (again) before the prices creep up.

[JamesM]

Maybe the Milgauss GV, if availability remains low over the next few years.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Do you have any figures to back up your assertion over the limited availability of the black dialed 116520?..... If we're going on production numbers per year, then the Sub ND, for example, is a much "rarer" watch than an SS Daytona.

Backatcha; got any figures to back this up?

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by improviz

Backatcha; got any figures to back this up?

My local AD will sell about 2 Sub NDs compared to 4-5 Daytonas per year

[improviz]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

My local AD will sell about 2 Sub NDs compared to 4-5 Daytonas per year

Anecdotal.

In all seriousness, though, my point was that unfortunately we have no production figures from Rolex for either, but there's certainly no question as to which is in more demand. Having said that, however, I'd agree that the SS Daytona, regardless of dial color, probably isn't quite scarce enough to fetch the $$$$ of, say, an original Daytona or an original Milgauss twenty years on down the line...but otoh, it's still much scarcer than most, so I wouldn't expect to lose money on one either: though the economy seems to be softening their market up a bit (along with the rest of the luxury goods market ), they still seem to be getting snapped up pretty quickly in the FS section.

So while it almost certainly won't command the $$ of the *really* rare watches, I reckon it will do pretty well compared to many of its contemporaries; time, of course, will tell the tale.

Btw, if your AD is selling 4-5 black dialed SS Daytonas per year, he's got some serious mojo! Most of the dealers in the DFW area get maybe 1 or two SS Daytonas full stop.

[unclesallie]

GMT 167513, circa '85, 'rootbeer'?

[greekbum]

Many will not agree with what I am going to say next but here it goes.Having traded the financial markets all of my life and studied trends,bubbles and manias during this time I say things dont usually happen twice the same.The vintage sport model Rolex watch mania that saw prices go to astronomical numbers has topped and its over.In other words the real money has been made.Thats not to say certain pieces might not go up in value from here but the % move that happened wont be repeated with the same models etc.Does anybody remember the bubble back craze years ago?So if there is ever a mania in watches again its anyones guess what it will be.Keep in mind many if not all of the vintage Rolex sport models sold new for under a few hundred dollars in the 60' and 70's that many are paying 20-100 times that now.A new SS Daytona is what 10k so we say 100k to a cool million in 20 years to get that same type of return?I can only laugh but you never know.So for now we can go on and enjoy wearing or staring at our watches.When I bought my 16750 Gmt new in the mid 80's the thought never entered my mind if it would be rare or if it would be worth more in 10 years.The salesman said buy a Rolex it will last a lifetime.A close friend of mine bought a DRSD in 1999 box papers everything mint for 3k and in 2006 couldnt resist the 35k offer.Heck it was more than 11x what he paid and he enjoyed it for that time frame.He watched it sell for 45k the next year.Do you think it sells for 450k in 10 years? Its anyones guess but I say no. For all we know the wrist watch might be like the pocket watch in 20 years replaced with something else for telling time.Did I say that oh man am I gonna here some S!@T now...............ROFL...........

[Watchdog]

Originally Posted by greekbum

Many will not agree with what I am going to say next but here it goes.Having traded the financial markets all of my life and studied trends,bubbles and manias during this time I say things dont usually happen twice the same.The vintage sport model Rolex watch mania that saw prices go to astronomical numbers has topped and its over.In other words the real money has been made.Thats not to say certain pieces might not go up in value from here but the % move that happened wont be repeated with the same models etc.Does anybody remember the bubble back craze years ago?So if there is ever a mania in watches again its anyones guess what it will be.Keep in mind many if not all of the vintage Rolex sport models sold new for under a few hundred dollars in the 60' and 70's that many are paying 20-100 times that now.A new SS Daytona is what 10k so we say 100k to a cool million in 20 years to get that same type of return?I can only laugh but you never know.So for now we can go on and enjoy wearing or staring at our watches.When I bought my 16750 Gmt new in the mid 80's the thought never entered my mind if it would be rare or if it would be worth more in 10 years.The salesman said buy a Rolex it will last a lifetime.A close friend of mine bought a DRSD in 1999 box papers everything mint for 3k and in 2006 couldnt resist the 35k offer.Heck it was more than 11x what he paid and he enjoyed it for that time frame.He watched it sell for 45k the next year.Do you think it sells for 450k in 10 years? Its anyones guess but I say no. For all we know the wrist watch might be like the pocket watch in 20 years replaced with something else for telling time.Did I say that oh man am I gonna here some S!@T now...............ROFL...........

Very interesting . . .

[Spare201]

The way pricing is and the perception of rolex becoming a common brand will bring about a trend for original vintage pieces, subs, daytonas, milgaus. The brand has become kind of a cheese magnet. The older specialist watches will become the ultimate in unimitatable exclusivity.

[Porsche]

Originally Posted by oztimelord

I recon the Yachtmaster II

+1

I'm with you Rene, and I think you know why