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Old 9 July 2021, 04:28 AM   #31
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I'm Irish but born and live in London.

The real question is England to lose or get the call for a grail, which would you pick? Now that's a hard one.

The Welsh, Scottish, and Irish members of TRF will be in two minds about this one. Tough call.
I'll take "get the call for a grail", it would be a win / win situation.
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:29 AM   #32
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That actor as you call him, is the player of the tournament, and does what 99% of other players do, England resisted diving for so long as that was not in their mentality but lost so many games due to others diving so they have had to catch on and do the same to compete on a level playing field.
Exactly, and now England is facing the dive kings of the game - Italy.
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:31 AM   #33
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I suppose it beats spending three hours watching a 60min game, with a load of men dressed in more armour than if they were going to war, throwing a ball forwards and catching it! But hey, at least there is always a winner...
I like AF but couldn't ever watch a game live, I have to record and fast forward thru it, after all it's famously a four hour advertisment broken up by 1 hour of sports action.
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:32 AM   #34
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The Argentina-Colombia 1-1 game that eventually went to penalties was more ruthless and nerve-wracking than any NFL game I've watched and I've watched many.
Someone faked breaking a nail ??
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:39 AM   #35
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.... a game where players roll around like they’ve been shot after having a shoelace stepped on…
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:44 AM   #36
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"when they go low, we go high" springs to mind.
I really don't think drugs are the answer... altho maybe the Irish need to take desperate measures these days.
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:47 AM   #37
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Maybe you have to be Irish/Scottish/Welsh to fully grasp it but that really isn't a win/win situation.

Getting the call is a win of course but England winning would be loss for us the size of which I can't even put into words. If England win I'll be devastated and I don't even watch football.
Even for Northern Ireland?
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:49 AM   #38
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This England "team" is one of the best we've had in recent decades. Southgate has them playing in a system they all seem happy with. The best two teams are in the final and if England can play their best they will win.

Played in its simplest form it truly is "A beautiful game".
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:49 AM   #39
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Even for Northern Ireland?
I voted remain and would again today but thanks to Brexit there will probably be no such place within my lifetime. That's one plus from it at least.
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:52 AM   #40
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Now that is a tough call.

Scenario 1: Grail watch and England win, so I have a dream watch on my wrist, but while wearing it, I have to listen to the English banging on about how 'football came home' forever more.
Scenario 2: No watch, but England lose.

I'm going 2.
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Old 9 July 2021, 04:58 AM   #41
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This England "team" is one of the best we've had in recent decades. Southgate has them playing in a system they all seem happy with. The best two teams are in the final and if England can play their best they will win.

Played in its simplest form it truly is "A beautiful game".
It is and we have the deepest squad in the world, if we had gone another way and really played to our attacking strengths, remember our defence was the worry going into the tournament and so Southgate has been so defensive, I think looking back we could have probably beaten every team comfortably by 2 or 3 goals in every game, as the back 4/5 have held out really well too plus Sterling, who was the weak link for me, has been brilliant, and we would be very hot favorites to take down Italy too, instead Italy are slight favourites.
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Old 9 July 2021, 05:05 AM   #42
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I think looking back we could have probably beaten every team comfortably by 2 or 3 goals in every game
That is hilarious.
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Old 9 July 2021, 05:06 AM   #43
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A 0 - 0 score would go to extra time and if still no winner, penalties. I'm not a huge soccer fan but watching England has been amazing.

Win....I can't afford my grail :)
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Old 9 July 2021, 05:08 AM   #44
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Forza Italia!

There's my answer.
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Old 9 July 2021, 05:10 AM   #45
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Das as someone living in the UK please refer to it as football and not soccer. Thank you.
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Old 9 July 2021, 05:14 AM   #46
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That is hilarious.
I agree, and I am an England fan.
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Old 9 July 2021, 05:16 AM   #47
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Someone faked breaking a nail ??
If by 'faked breaking a nail' you mean "someone had blood squirting out of their ankle, through their socks and onto the field" just to score penalties in overtime with that exact same foot while directly trash talking their opponent who's about 30-40% bigger than them, then yes, they "faked breaking a nail."
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Old 9 July 2021, 05:22 AM   #48
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Das as someone living in the UK please refer to it as football and not soccer. Thank you.
+1

As someone who has lived in the UK for a few years and returned back to Canada recently I cringe every time I hear "soccer".
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Old 9 July 2021, 05:36 AM   #49
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Only thing less likely than getting a new Rolex sports watch, is England winning anything
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Old 9 July 2021, 06:00 AM   #53
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If by 'faked breaking a nail' you mean "someone had blood squirting out of their ankle, through their socks and onto the field" just to score penalties in overtime with that exact same foot while directly trash talking their opponent who's about 30-40% bigger than them, then yes, they "faked breaking a nail."
You must not watch many games then.
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Old 9 July 2021, 06:27 AM   #55
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There are certainly valid criticisms of American football compared to soccer, such as long games, lack of consistent action, too many rules, etc, I agree with those. But the "too many pads, the players are weak" argument coming from the crowd of a sport that is known for dives and theatrics is pretty silly and I'm surprised anyone would try to make that point.
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Old 9 July 2021, 06:49 AM   #56
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There are certainly valid criticisms of American football compared to soccer, such as long games, lack of consistent action, too many rules, etc, I agree with those. But the "too many pads, the players are weak" argument coming from the crowd of a sport that is known for dives and theatrics is pretty silly and I'm surprised anyone would try to make that point.
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Old 9 July 2021, 09:17 AM   #57
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you cheeky yanks and your bloody questions this old bloke from chestershire would be chuffed to bits to have quid in his pocket and fish and chips in his belly and a heirloom on his wrist than some silly football trophy and i'd be gobsmacked if any true english chap says otherwise, bobs your uncle
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Guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that one. I think The Simpsons summed up soccer nicely for Americans

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Old 9 July 2021, 07:10 PM   #59
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Guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that one. I think The Simpsons summed up soccer nicely for Americans

Haha, definitely have to agree to disagree. I remember watching this very episode! Personally, I think this says more about Americans than it does about football.... Have a great weekend Mike

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Haha, definitely have to agree to disagree. I remember watching this very episode! Personally, I think this says more about Americans than it does about football.... Have a great weekend Mike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE7qVAtNwQk&t=139s
Perhaps it does. I will give soccer credit for having two hour games. American football does drag on and on at times. I actually find myself purposely recording games and starting one hour after kickoff. By skipping commercials and halftime only, I can watch the entire game in two hours and be caught up to live tv by the end. DVRs have changed my life. Rarely watch anything live anymore.

Anyway that's another topic. You have a great weekend too Ollie. I love the UK and all its quirks. Can't wait to get back there again some day. Been too long.
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