Question - Tudors

[warrior]

Yes on all fronts.

Originally Posted by Aman08

Got a DJ 41 from ad in January and I will be adding a bb58. The Tudor bb58 to me felt like a watch that could be worn and abused. It felt like quality on the wrist. Two different companies. Both have in my opinion an excellent product. If your mind is set on a Rolex then save for the Rolex. If not I would get the Tudor.

[NachoNeal]

I currently desire more Tudor models than Rolex.

[Ironworker]

I went to look for another Rolex and was smitten by the Tudor watches, to me they have a little more of a utilitarian feel to them.

[Scanspeakman]

I have several Rolex and Tudor watches, so easy to compare. The most similar watches are my Sea-dweller 43 and Pelagos: both over-engineered dive watches with a helium escape valve and depth rating > 500m. In my opinion with the Pelagos you get 95% of the watch for 40% of the price. I guess the Sea-Dweller would look like the Pelagos if Rolex still focused on tool watches instead of luxury watches.

Love wearing both brands! They both have their charm. Forget all that "Tudor= poor mans Rolex" crap.

[SS Oyster]

Originally Posted by Gazoak

I agree with most of that and my Tudors get = wrist time! Ignoring the hyped up grey market values of Rolex professional models, in my opinion a Tudor offers much better value for money as a new purchase.

Depends on how you define value. If you mean it tells the same time for less money, then you are correct, but why not just buy a Casio? If you mean offers a luxury experience with all the trappings, then Rolex wins. If you mean value retention or growth, then Rolex is the clear winner.

I think Tudor make great and robust watches, but they just haven’t managed to break into the luxury category, so they continue to “follow trends” like faux patina, faux rivets, faux color fading, etc.

Rolex doesn’t follow; they lead. They also are more consistent in their pursuit of technical improvements (albeit at a glacial pace) while not messing with the look and feel that makes their models recognizable and highly prized.

Rolex also controls their distribution much better, with far fewer Rolex Boutiques and ADs in general.

Finally, Rolex spends a lot more money on marketing and product placement.


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[Dan Pierce]

Tudor offers 5 digit charm w/ 6 digit performance & construction. A rich brand history, much easier availability, realistic pricing, multiple sizes & color options, and the fact Tudor seems to tweak the noses of some status whores is another added bonus. What's not to like?
dP

[NachoNeal]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Tudor offers 5 digit charm w/ 6 digit performance & construction. A rich brand history, much easier availability, realistic pricing, multiple sizes & color options, and the fact Tudor seems to tweak the noses of some status whores is another added bonus. What's not to like?
dP

[Black Bay Dan]

Originally Posted by NachoNeal

I currently desire more Tudor models than Rolex.

Me too and that has been the case since 2012.

Dan

[Black Bay Dan]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Tudor offers 5 digit charm w/ 6 digit performance & construction. A rich brand history, much easier availability, realistic pricing, multiple sizes & color options, and the fact Tudor seems to tweak the noses of some status whores is another added bonus. What's not to like?
dP

Perfect description of all that is Tudor Dan.

Dan

[talkingbollox]

Compared to my older Rolex models I find the modern Tudor in-house movement to be a lot more accurate (0s/d).

Probably best bang for buck under 5k list.

[MickCollins1916]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Tudor offers 5 digit charm w/ 6 digit performance & construction. A rich brand history, much easier availability, realistic pricing, multiple sizes & color options, and the fact Tudor seems to tweak the noses of some status whores is another added bonus. What's not to like?
dP

this

[watchwatcher]

Well, first and foremost, you would have to define 'superior,' as it pertains to what you're looking for in a watch, before we can really help you.

[slus]

Originally Posted by Scanspeakman

I have several Rolex and Tudor watches, so easy to compare. The most similar watches are my Sea-dweller 43 and Pelagos: both over-engineered dive watches with a helium escape valve and depth rating > 500m. In my opinion with the Pelagos you get 95% of the watch for 40% of the price. I guess the Sea-Dweller would look like the Pelagos if Rolex still focused on tool watches instead of luxury watches.

Love wearing both brands! They both have their charm. Forget all that "Tudor= poor mans Rolex" crap.

True story, but my pair is a DSSD and Pelagos. Wait lists would be a mile long if the Pelagos said Rolex on the dial

[D3R3K]

Tudor has a great catalog of well-built watches that provide good value for the money. They are able to take risks like creating watches with titanium cases, silver cases, ceramic cases, etc. that would be deemed too reactionary by Rolex standards. Their affiliation with Rolex also enables them to create modern designs inspired by vintage Rolex models. I think they have a number of desirable models in their catalog.

[Black Bay Dan]

Originally Posted by slus

True story, but my pair is a DSSD and Pelagos. Wait lists would be a mile long if the Pelagos said Rolex on the dial

And the fact that it does not is what we should all be thankful for. If you know you know.

Dan

[kegan]

If I were in the market for a modern piece I wouldn’t consider a Rolex over its Tudor counterpart and its not even close.

[MinMay]

Originally Posted by Scanspeakman

I have several Rolex and Tudor watches, so easy to compare. The most similar watches are my Sea-dweller 43 and Pelagos: both over-engineered dive watches with a helium escape valve and depth rating > 500m. In my opinion with the Pelagos you get 95% of the watch for 40% of the price. I guess the Sea-Dweller would look like the Pelagos if Rolex still focused on tool watches instead of luxury watches.

Love wearing both brands! They both have their charm. Forget all that "Tudor= poor mans Rolex" crap.

So true. People who said Tudor is a poor man Rolex should show their bank statement. let’s see who has more money

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

Depends on how you define value. If you mean it tells the same time for less money, then you are correct, but why not just buy a Casio? If you mean offers a luxury experience with all the trappings, then Rolex wins. If you mean value retention or growth, then Rolex is the clear winner.

I think Tudor make great and robust watches, but they just haven’t managed to break into the luxury category, so they continue to “follow trends” like faux patina, faux rivets, faux color fading, etc.

Rolex doesn’t follow; they lead. They also are more consistent in their pursuit of technical improvements (albeit at a glacial pace) while not messing with the look and feel that makes their models recognizable and highly prized.

Rolex also controls their distribution much better, with far fewer Rolex Boutiques and ADs in general.

Finally, Rolex spends a lot more money on marketing and product placement.


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I'm not sure that Rolex "lead" anything. Their most hyped reference uses a movement (albeit well proven) that has been around for years.

Technical improvements? Many manufacturers use ceramics and many can produce 70 plus hour PR movements that don't suffer from the issues that affect some of the 32** movements.

I agree that the strength in Rolex is brand recognition and value retention. That drives pricing which in turn drives the luxury element of ownership.

Rolex has he best marketing machine in the business. Possibly of any business. That's what drives perception.

Subjectively, yes, Rolex wins, by a mile.

Objectively, however, as a physical item, there is very little difference in product quality.

If you wind back the clock to when LV subs were languishing unwanted in AD cases, and you could walk in and pick up any Rolex other than steel Daytonas, like for like a Tudor represented better value for money on practically any measure.

I'm not sure Tudor follow "trends" because they can't break into the luxury category (whatever that actually is?) I believe Tudor are placed where they are with intent. And if you take it the other way, there will be those that enjoy the ownership experience of haute horology timepieces that would scoff at the idea of Rolex being a luxury timepiece.

Objectively a Sub is not three times the watch a BB is.

Subjectively, of course, that's a very different matter and very much down to one's personal view

[Rolexvin]

The difference is an 8 seconds gap on a bad day.

[Black Bay Dan]

Originally Posted by Rolexvin

The difference is an 8 seconds gap on a bad day.

I don't think Rolex watches are that bad compared to Tudor. Maybe 2 seconds a day.

Dan

[GrantD]

The difference is perception, this is down to marketing but my Tudor GMT out performs my Rolex’s on accuracy overtime all the time, ok so the whole watch was changed after 2 movement swaps.

I’ve also another Tudor I have to change the time on a weekly basis but strangely I love this watch more.

Rolex is one of the most desirable watches but the new Tudors are right up there with them, technically.




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[Peter Toronto]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Tudor offers 5 digit charm w/ 6 digit performance & construction. A rich brand history, much easier availability, realistic pricing, multiple sizes & color options, and the fact Tudor seems to tweak the noses of some status whores is another added bonus. What's not to like?
dP

That captures it perfectly for me: “5 digit charm with 6 digit performance and construction”. Well said Dan.


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[Old Expat Beast]

Still running strong and true after ten years with no service.

[teager]

Love Tudor, I just walked into a store, tried on a few, chose one, paid for it and walked out with it.
Imagine if you could do that with Rolex - dream on. Sadly…….

[Hardtimes]

I have to be honest here. While I think the Tudor is a great watch I have a mental block that is for sure my vanity. I just see them as almost a Rolex. Not trying to offend anyone but some of the models are just too close to Rolex to serve any purpose other than just being a cheaper alternative.

[Steerpike999]

I love Tudor for what they are a very well made, highly accurate, price competitive wristwatch, I own four so far; BB25 Silver, P01, Pelagos and Pelagos FXD. I find all these models to be unique in the way Tudor has produced them

For me its not about them being better or worse or more / less than Rolex or any other brand for that matter. I look at a watch and decide if I like it or not based on all sorts of factors,brand being one of them. I certainly don't buy a watch based on its brand alone or even as the major reason for purchase.

If you like a particular Tudor model and can afford it, buy it.

[DG123]

I've never worn a Tudor. How does that brand's bracelet compare to the Rolex Oyster bracelet ?

[inadeje]

Tudor makes some solid watches. A few have appealed to me.

1. Heritage Chronograph - Had it for 1 summer and enjoyed it.
2. BB 58 Bronze - Love the style and quirky bronze look that Rolex won’t ever make (still own)

[Steerpike999]

Originally Posted by DG123

I've never worn a Tudor. How does that brand's bracelet compare to the Rolex Oyster bracelet ?

My Pelagos comes on a bracelet. the rest are all on leather / rubber / Nato..

Its a good solid bracelet with an interesting take on extension for wetsuit, but not as comfortable, imo, as the Rolex oyster bracelet

[zaphod777]

A Tudor isn't a substitute for a Rolex but they make great watches for the money. I own a modern Datejust and a Tudor Blackbay 36. The Rolex is better but I'm not sure it is 3x better.

I'm happy to have both though.