How does the whitetag authenticate dial?

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by maxGMT

The green seal hang tag is the official mark that your watch has been certified as a chronometer. Far more important than the white inventory tag.

Have to respectfully disagree here. It's non-unique and can be tossed in the box by anyone.

[maxGMT]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Have to respectfully disagree here. It's non-unique and can be tossed in the box by anyone.

We agree to disagree then. :)
The chronometer certification seal is what makes a Rolex a Rolex. An inventory purpose piece of plastic which is tossed away by most ADs is not.

[acb5456]

My white dangly tag that came with my DJ 36 has the serial number along with the reference number....is this normal/correct?

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by acb5456

My white dangly tag that came with my DJ 36 has the serial number along with the reference number....is this normal/correct?

Yes. And the full reference number at that... indicating dial etc.

[acb5456]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Yes. And the full reference number at that... indicating dial etc.

Perfect :) Thanks!

[168000]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

Agreed, and, to be clear, the white hang tag is plastic, and there is no sticker on it. All pertinent info is printed directly on the plastic, including the dial color code, if applicable, and even the size box your watch should have come in. Mine both have M, for medium.

Kat


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Since when is it the case?

Thank you.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by 168000

Since when is it the case?

Thank you.

Since the 5 year warranty cards and green Chrono tags I think.

[bay_area_kid]

Originally Posted by maxGMT

We agree to disagree then. :)
The chronometer certification seal is what makes a Rolex a Rolex. An inventory purpose piece of plastic which is tossed away by most ADs is not.

The "Superlative Certified" green tag is not special at all. You can buy those separately and in bulk.

The white plastic tag is more important because it has both the serial number and the full 10-digit reference. The last four digits after the "-" indicates the dial from factory. The last four digits are not present in the warranty card, the card only shows the first six digits which makes it impossible to determine the original dial configuration if you don't have the white plastic tag.

Those details are very helpful if you are in the process of buying a pre-owned watch and you want to verify the watch's dial configuration is correct for its serial number.

Note I bolded the word "plastic" above. A lot of Rolex ADs (even the managers) confuse the white plastic tag with the white inventory tag. So both white tags end up getting disposed. But they are supposed to give you the white plastic tag with your purchase. At least that's how it was explained to me by my Rolex AD and their Rolex rep.

[0nly5iv3Digits]

Only the case for new 6 digit reference pieces. In the old days all you needed to know was on the warranty paper - including dial, bezel, material, bracelet etc.

[bay_area_kid]

Originally Posted by 0nly5iv3Digits

Only the case for new 6 digit reference pieces. In the old days all you needed to know was on the warranty paper - including dial, bezel, material, bracelet etc.

Yes, the assumption is that we are all talking about the current Rolex "packaging".

The white tags with the full 10-digit reference and serial numbers did not even exist 7-8 years ago. Before then, we only had those green inventory hangtags with white stickers and bar codes. And before that were different kinds of warranty papers, etc.

[168000]

Originally Posted by EEpro

Since the 5 year warranty cards and green Chrono tags I think.

Thanks. I only have the green Rolex one with my explorer ii from 2011.
For my 116520 I have the green Rolex tag + a rectangular one with a white sticker on it showing a bar code with the individual number above, the reference of the watch at the bottom left and the reference of the bracelet at the bottom right

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by maxGMT

We agree to disagree then. :)
The chronometer certification seal is what makes a Rolex a Rolex. An inventory purpose piece of plastic which is tossed away by most ADs is not.

I disagree, as well. The chronometer status is printed right on the dial.
No need for a mass produced plastic tag to certify it, as such.

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[TickTockChuck]

I like to get all the hang tags that go with such an expensive purchase. They keep chipping away at the watch purchase experience, what's the next hold-back I ask?!

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by 168000

Thanks. I only have the green Rolex one with my explorer ii from 2011.
For my 116520 I have the green Rolex tag + a rectangular one with a white sticker on it showing a bar code with the individual number above, the reference of the watch at the bottom left and the reference of the bracelet at the bottom right

The rectangular green one with the printed sticker, was replaced by the white hang tag. To me, it seems important, as it verifies the serial number, model number, and dial code, of your Rolex.


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[bay_area_kid]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

I disagree, as well. The chronometer status is printed right on the dial.
No need for a mass produced plastic tag to certify it, as such.

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Exactly! It's just a mass-produced tag with no unique identifying markers. Just a fancy looking hologram. And you can buy them seperately if you're really desperate to have one.

Heck, you may be able to get one from your AD for free if you ask them nicely enough

[Duey]

Originally Posted by EEpro

I won't buy a watch without one. As stupid as that may seem. If I'm paying a dial premium I want the tag to match the dial.

The dash number after the model number is the dial configuration.

Exactly

The white s/n tag Does tell you the dial

Like a WG president with a blue diamond dial 128349-0010 this is the configuration it left Rolex and the s/n matches

[sawhornsoff]

I’ve bought many from the same AD since 2004. There has been periods where they wouldn’t give me the white tag as they were instructed not to do so. Recently, I’ve been given the tags. My last watch I picked up in Nov this year included the white tag.

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by sawhornsoff

I’ve bought many from the same AD since 2004. There has been periods where they wouldn’t give me the white tag as they were instructed not to do so. Recently, I’ve been given the tags. My last watch I picked up in Nov this year included the white tag.

Originally Posted by sawhornsoff

I’ve bought many from the same AD since 2004. There has been periods where they wouldn’t give me the white tag as they were instructed not to do so. Recently, I’ve been given the tags. My last watch I picked up in Nov this year included the white tag.

The white tag, that is being discussed, was not around until 2016.

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[rolexboy66]

My watch dealer shared that white tags are more relevant for the more exclusive and expensive pieces like meteorite dials or Daytona John Mayor for example

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by rolexboy66

My watch dealer shared that white tags are more relevant for the more exclusive and expensive pieces like meteorite dials or Daytona John Mayor for example

They are relevant for any Rolex, to verify its original configuration. For instance, there are OPs being sold on eBay, which have aftermarket Celebration, green, Tiffany, or yellow dials. The watches are genuine, but the dials are not. The white tag, which presumably would not be provided, in this case, would show that the watch started out, as a blue or black dial OP.

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[Tbird]

And what does Oyster, M or S mean at the bottom line of the tag? Mine is Oyster, but cant be the bracelet, which is Jub on my watch.

[Zoomerang]

Originally Posted by Tbird

And what does Oyster, M or S mean at the bottom line of the tag? Mine is Oyster, but cant be the bracelet, which is Jub on my watch.

Supposed to be the box size, but the box doesn't ship with the watch but rather the AD will pick a box and sometimes they will give you a different size from what's stated on the white tag.

[Halifax Daytona UK]

Available on eBay and for whatever model / dial you want

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by Halifax Daytona UK

Available on eBay and for whatever model / dial you want

Originally Posted by Halifax Daytona UK

Available on eBay and for whatever model / dial you want

The white tags being sold on eBay are likely real, but not available for any model, or dial, that a buyer may want. They are tags, that may have been discarded by an AD, who didn’t provide them, at time of sale, and will have a serial number for a specific watch, which has already been sold. So, I’m not sure what purpose they would serve, for anyone.

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[illiguy]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

The rectangular green one with the printed sticker, was replaced by the white hang tag. To me, it seems important, as it verifies the serial number, model number, and dial code, of your Rolex.


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This is correct. Pictures might help.

Immediately below is a green hang tag c. 2012 that references serial number (blacked out), model reference (14060M), and bracelet code (93150). There is no dial reference code. But, as a Submariner, you know it’s a black dial. If buying something like an anniversary Submariner with Date (aka “Kermit”), I’d want the matching hangtag that has model reference (16610LV) and the warranty card that would verify it as a legitimate Kermit.



Here is the warranty card for my Daytona. Simply based on photo, one cannot deduce whether it is a white dial or black dial.



Here is the white serial tag for the Daytona. There is the model reference number and dial code (-0001 indicating a white dial).

“Oyster M” indicating a Medium box for this stainless steel sport model.




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[Tbird]

So Oyster then means Oyster product range, next to Cellini? and different ones I dont remember now

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by illiguy

Here is the warranty card for my Daytona. Simply based on photo, one cannot deduce whether it is a white dial or black dial.



Here is the white serial tag for the Daytona. There is the model reference number and dial code (-0001 indicating a white dial).

This little white tag saved me from a heart attack when I had dial issues with my Daytona.

It was very reassuring to know it was NOT a swapped dial and indeed was born with the white dial.

[R1100RS]

Is there a common code that is linked to the "4-digit part" of the 10-digit reference?
So as an example 118135 refers to the model (day-date). Is there a code that identifies the final 5 digits (i.e. -0005 = Rhodium Dial). If there is a table or reference link that would be really useful.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by R1100RS

Is there a common code that is linked to the "4-digit part" of the 10-digit reference?
So as an example 118135 refers to the model (day-date). Is there a code that identifies the final 5 digits (i.e. -0005 = Rhodium Dial). If there is a table or reference link that would be really useful.

If you go to the Rolex website you'll see the full part number when you open the brochure for the watch.



For my Daytona it is 116509-0073

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by igbgotiz

I hear the little white tag that comes with Rolex can be used to authenticate the dial is original.

Please post where you heard this. First time I read this kind of nonsense.