UFO Disclosure Imminent?

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by Paul7

The evidence to date says yes. There is an amazing amount of fine-tuning that enables life to support life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_universe

That assumes we are the only intelligent species here. Plato writing has been fairly astute, imho.

[Jeronimo]

Originally Posted by VaRobot

As expected, Avi's perspective is completely Newtonian. This is his formal education, thankfully he has the nerve to go outside the box a bit, sadly many of his peers still wont. Many peers may eventually go kicking and screaming as they are drug into the "Phenomenal" future.

In the example of the "Tic Tac" and other "seemingly solid" craft caught on Radar, IR Imaging, and Visual......... Newtonian Physics is out the window.

Much of the Broader "Phenomena" is non-sensical in it's nature, hence the psychological mindset difficulty dealing with it.

Yes, academia needs to broaden their minds... I think Avi at least has his mind set in the right direction. Just started his book last night.

Cheers!


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[VaRobot]

Originally Posted by Jeronimo

Yes, academia needs to broaden their minds... I think Avi at least has his mind set in the right direction. Just started his book last night.

Cheers!


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I am approximately half way through the book, I am reading 2 other books at the same time.

So far book is very good and inline with his interviews. The book has more technical details supporting his opinion on it being un-natural and artificially constructed.

[BNA/LION]

watching TV

[Cuinne]

I'll just leave this here:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/2321251...e-ufo-crashes/

[VaRobot]

Originally Posted by Cuinne

I'll just leave this here:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/2321251...e-ufo-crashes/

Yeah, the academics that studied this debris mentioned this many years ago, finally the Pentagon confirms.

Also in Daily Mail:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...O-crashes.html


TTSA, Professor Jacques Vallee, Linda Moulton Howe, all had pieces of "extra terrestrial" debris that was analyzed. TTSA still has debris that the army is analyzing:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...aterial-claims


This isn't simply debris and most likely doesn't come from "Aliens from another Planet".

Jacques Vallee started the "Invisible College", it continues today with Academic Professors whom collect this debris and artifacts for analysis.

The most recent I am aware of is Professor D.W Pasulka and her Collages examining recovered crash material. This is discussed here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/01...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://uncw.edu/par/faculty/faculty-pasulka.html


In the above book Professor Pasulka states, quotes:

"Absurdity seems to have been written into the artifacts"

"It was so anomalous as to be incomprehensible"

"The artifacts also studied us"

"There is some sort of symbiotic relationship between the artifact and those in proximity."


This all relates to Chris Mellon, former Deputy Asst Secretary of Defense and his briefings to Congress:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Mellon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpi0YXboDQM



Sometimes Ignorance really is Bliss....................


To summarize, some of these artifacts/debris interact with Human Psyche.

They are most likely something purposefully put there disguised as crash debris.

[TheVTCGuy]

I’ll just say it...

Double Face Palm

[VaRobot]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I’ll just say it...

Double Face Palm

As you always have, over and over and over and over and over. Again and again and again.

"That which is understood doesn't need to be discussed"

Over and over and over and over...............

Almost two years of Unintellectual, Uniformed Juvenile worthless contribution to the thread.

I understood your position years ago, yes I really did, honestly, I get it. How many times do you need to say the same thing?????

We disagree, do you need to keep re-stating????


You form opinion 3 minutes after my post without possibly researching any validity of it or questioning any specifics of it.


Yet I have been accurate in sooooo much I stated almost two years ago. Sad really sad.

I provide references, you provide "opinion"


You know what opinions are like, correct?

Everybody has one..................

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by VaRobot

As you always have, over and over and over and over and over. Again and again and again.

"That which is understood doesn't need to be discussed"

Over and over and over and over...............

Almost two years of Unintellectual, Uniformed Juvenile worthless contribution to the thread.

I understood your position years ago, yes I really did, honestly, I get it. How many times do you need to say the same thing?????

We disagree, do you need to keep re-stating????

I was just about to ask you the same thing

[VaRobot]

I completely dont get it.

I hoped this thread would provide information on something I thought important.

Sadly I dont have the patience I use to. I give up, I'm done, I wont be back. You win.

The thread is all yours.

Take Care and God Bless, Regards, John

[Jeronimo]

Originally Posted by VaRobot

Yeah, the academics that studied this debris mentioned this many years ago, finally the Pentagon confirms.

Also in Daily Mail:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...O-crashes.html


TTSA, Professor Jacques Vallee, Linda Moulton Howe, all had pieces of "extra terrestrial" debris that was analyzed. TTSA still has debris that the army is analyzing:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...aterial-claims


This isn't simply debris and most likely doesn't come from "Aliens from another Planet".

Jacques Vallee started the "Invisible College", it continues today with Academic Professors whom collect this debris and artifacts for analysis.

The most recent I am aware of is Professor D.W Pasulka and her Collages examining recovered crash material. This is discussed here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/01...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://uncw.edu/par/faculty/faculty-pasulka.html


In the above book Professor Pasulka states, quotes:

"Absurdity seems to have been written into the artifacts"

"It was so anomalous as to be incomprehensible"

"The artifacts also studied us"

"There is some sort of symbiotic relationship between the artifact and those in proximity."


This all relates to Chris Mellon, former Deputy Asst Secretary of Defense and his briefings to Congress:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Mellon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpi0YXboDQM



Sometimes Ignorance really is Bliss....................


To summarize, some of these artifacts/debris interact with Human Psyche.

They are most likely something purposefully put there disguised as crash debris.

Thanks, this is really interesting and sort of groundbreaking! I wasn’t expecting something so straightforward as this response.

Very glad that you brought this to our attention.

Cheers!


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[Jeronimo]

Originally Posted by Cuinne

I'll just leave this here:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/2321251...e-ufo-crashes/

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[TheVTCGuy]

Let me understand this, I read the report and it is... interesting, but please let me get this correctly.

You believe, that aliens have placed a substance, call it a “metallic” substance in an area, disguised it as crash debris from a spaceship, and this metallic substance communicates with human beings ? From some telepathic connection or vibrating in response to questions or some other form of interaction.

Have I got that right?

[Andad]

He has gone and is not coming back?

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Andad

Who are you asking Paul?

He has gone and is not coming back.

You Eddie!

I guess it was a general question. I am just... flabbergasted... at some of the things people have suggested.... BUT! If it is ever proven true, that aliens in fact DID place telepathic metal parts in an area to communicate with humans, and disguised it as a spaceship crash, and our government is in conspiracy to cover it up (and has a relationship with said aliens) I promise, I will eat my words and admit I was wrong.

[Andad]

I think you are safe Paul.

The odds of this being possible are incalculable.

I listened to the interview earlier this week and it seemed that he was more intent on criticising his peers?

In any event this thread was never worth the bandwidth on a The Rolex Forum.

Should have been moved to The X Files Forum.

Had there really been proof the OP would not have needed 40% of the posts.

One solid post with something irrefutable would have been good enough.

[bayerische]

Almost two years now. Seems we have different definitions of "imminent".

[Jeronimo]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Let me understand this, I read the report and it is... interesting, but please let me get this correctly.

You believe, that aliens have placed a substance, call it a “metallic” substance in an area, disguised it as crash debris from a spaceship, and this metallic substance communicates with human beings ? From some telepathic connection or vibrating in response to questions or some other form of interaction.

Have I got that right?

Wow...

The newspaper articles were an interesting development but I didn’t check the other links yet.

This sounds like a “little” bit of a stretch...

I now understand why you double face palmed.

But I thought it was an interesting thread although I only found it very recently. Shame.


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[fmc000]

You lost me at "The Sun" and "Daily Mail".

[77T]

Nitinol - It’s public history is known.

https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2015/ip_4.html

I wouldn’t be surprised that the Navy may have been secretly involved back in the late 1940’s-1950’s when aerospace and supersonic research had them chasing all sorts of metallurgical materials. And this crash debris’ source couldn’t be disclosed during the early days of the Cold War.

What surprises me is that no naval aviators from later decades ever knew it had been secretly injected in solution disguised as vaccinations to allow nitinol to reform into tiny structures that act like transceivers to get signals from alien transmitters in Tralfamador that made the unwitting aviators lust for Rolex watches....oops, I’ve said too much.


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[Fleetlord]

More on nitinol.

https://www.kelloggsresearchlabs.com...ry-of-nitinol/

Doesn’t seem that otherworldly to me...

I am also surprised at how little response these “disclosures” have garnered

https://theconversation.com/the-us-m...to-care-137498

Even on media specializing on stuff like this, such a coast w coast am....just not much being said at all.

[AzPaul]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Let me understand this, I read the report and it is... interesting, but please let me get this correctly.

You believe, that aliens have placed a substance, call it a “metallic” substance in an area, disguised it as crash debris from a spaceship, and this metallic substance communicates with human beings ? From some telepathic connection or vibrating in response to questions or some other form of interaction.

Have I got that right?

Real clever Paul. "Pretending" you aren't a part of the program.
And tell us again what these drones of yours are up to?

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by AzPaul

Real clever Paul. "Pretending" you aren't a part of the program.
And tell us again what these drones of yours are up to?

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

"The greatest trick aliens ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist"

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by bayerische

Almost two years now. Seems we have different definitions of "imminent".

The cia and navy apparently now the “pentagon” have all said they have either recovered materials from a non human intelligence or have released videos of them.

I doubt you will see a big press conference or similar.

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Let me understand this, I read the report and it is... interesting, but please let me get this correctly.

You believe, that aliens have placed a substance, call it a “metallic” substance in an area, disguised it as crash debris from a spaceship, and this metallic substance communicates with human beings ? From some telepathic connection or vibrating in response to questions or some other form of interaction.

Have I got that right?

Is that the sun report?

The memory function afaik means it can crumpled or crashed but has a molecular or nano structure that allows it to snap back in place. I believe some of our plastics are like this once heated. If that isn’t what ur discussing im not sure.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by VaRobot

Also in Daily Mail:


"The artifacts also studied us"


Sometimes Ignorance really is Bliss..........

To summarize, some of these artifacts/debris interact with Human Psyche.

They are most likely something purposefully put there disguised as crash debris.

Originally Posted by breitlings

Is that the sun report?

The memory function afaik means it can crumpled or crashed but has a molecular or nano structure that allows it to snap back in place. I believe some of our plastics are like this once heated. If that isn’t what ur discussing im not sure.

There are a couple articles, including the Daily Mail (so it must be true right), but my good friend Jon, whom I have quoted above, sums a couple articles up. See, the Aliens planted this material and disguised it as a crashed spaceship, but in actuality, the “Debris” is some kind of communications system that, Quote from Jon: “Interact with the human Psyche.” End quote.

Yep.... Yep... Yep.

[Dubshack]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ix/6812802002/


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[Rock]

Many years ago I watched a TV show about the alleged debris from an alleged alien spaceship allegedly found in New Mexico. It mentioned a "metallic material" that when crumpled and released, returned to its original form. I thought "Gee that's amazing". A bit later, I crumpled an empty packet that had contained potato crisps and when I dropped it into the trash, it quickly returned to it's original shape. I thought "Hmmmm."

[330ci]

Originally Posted by Rock

Many years ago I watched a TV show about the alleged debris from an alleged alien spaceship allegedly found in New Mexico. It mentioned a "metallic material" that when crumpled and released, returned to its original form. I thought "Gee that's amazing". A bit later, I crumpled an empty packet that had contained potato crisps and when I dropped it into the trash, it quickly returned to it's original shape. I thought "Hmmmm."

So aliens created potato chip bags too