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Dream99 · 9 January 2013, 08:24 AM

Definately return it and send recorded delivery to ensure "they get it" and cant say they did not.

111forza · 9 January 2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FremStar

As an owner of that very same preciscion instrument, I would not keep it in that condition. The shop in Germany you purchased the 70330 from misled you with their intrepretation of "like new". Maybe it was like-new when the person who sold it purchased it, however, this is unacceptable...

On the flip side Mickey did raise a point with depends on how much you paid. If it was $2k or below then fine...

Good luck and keep us posted!

Never mind what you paid for it send it back asap condition is not like new
No way would i accept it

crowncollection · 9 January 2013, 08:56 AM

no if the description was like new, if it were mine i would at least get them to pay for a professional polish

nauticajoe · 9 January 2013, 08:56 AM

Geez....that's like new? I'm afraid to ask what mint looks like.

Hope it works out.

honeybear · 9 January 2013, 09:04 AM

That is unacceptable, and the condition nowhere justifies the term "like new." I hope you get a full refund.

Rags · 9 January 2013, 09:08 AM

That's BS. Send it back forthwith & never ever do business with them again. No way can you describe that watch as like new.

FremStar · 9 January 2013, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 111forza

Never mind what you paid for it send it back asap condition is not like new
No way would i accept it

I hear you, false advertising sucks!

jimbones43 · 9 January 2013, 09:12 AM

Misrepresented! I would return it!

springer · 9 January 2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by datejuste

there is no way it could be described as "like new."

x2.

j.alex · 9 January 2013, 09:23 AM

No

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mrbill2mrbill2 · 9 January 2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by c9smw

I've spoken to the owner of the shop & he has agreed to send his courier to collect the watch & give me a refund (hopefully a full one) !!!
He says he made a mistake, he has 2 THC's in stock but it is the black dial one that is like new !!!!!
If I receive a full refund then it's just a lesson learned, anything other than a full refund & I will name & shame !!!!

If you get a full refund things are good.

Humans make mistakes - I do.

TopNotchChach · 9 January 2013, 10:53 AM

i would be pissed.

Rock · 9 January 2013, 11:24 AM

The response received from the seller suggests that it was an honest (if foolish) mistake.
The proof will be when you have received a full refund.

Unfortunately 'long-distance' transactions often bring problems.
They are a last resort when you simply cannot get what you want locally.

RC2 · 9 January 2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by starwalker

considering you dont live in germany, and that you might not go there in person to refund it....i would just polish the watch and keep it. Instead of risk losing my money and the watch. However, i do believe that it is completely not acceptable.

x2

smartson · 9 January 2013, 11:48 AM

I hope you didn't pay the 'like new' price!

mikkolopez · 9 January 2013, 11:53 AM

2012 THC huh? Even if I wear that watch for at least 6 months straight, I could never get it scratched like that. So no I won't be the least bit happy with that. It looked to me like it has gone thru some tough times.

I'd say chase them up and they fix it up for you. Either they give you the black (and hopefully like new) dialled that he claims or full refund.

bbk · 9 January 2013, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c9smw

I've spoken to the owner of the shop & he has agreed to send his courier to collect the watch & give me a refund (hopefully a full one) !!!
He says he made a mistake, he has 2 THC's in stock but it is the black dial one that is like new !!!!!
If I receive a full refund then it's just a lesson learned, anything other than a full refund & I will name & shame !!!!

Hopefully the seller is on the up-and-up regarding making good the deal. Maybe he truly did make a mistake. Otherwise completely unacceptable.

Good luck!

Cesium133 · 9 January 2013, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c9smw

I've spoken to the owner of the shop & he has agreed to send his courier to collect the watch & give me a refund (hopefully a full one) !!!

I would strongly recommend that you insist on a full refund.

77T · 9 January 2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by c9smw

Good thinking that man !
At the moment I am struggling to get a commitment from the seller as to how much I will be refunded, I have a feeling it will be what I paid less about 120 euro for delivery & subsequent collection !!!
If this happens I will name & shame them (I'm not into bad mouthing anyone but fair is fair !!! )

Here in US the equivalent of 120€ would get a good polish done...

kenthek · 9 January 2013, 12:49 PM

you got took - sorry to hear that liekwas said you can acpcet soem scratches when epxected but not on an item represented "as new" - return it or get compensation for a well worn watch

bp1983 · 9 January 2013, 01:11 PM

what would that condition be described as? good? bad? like how should the seller have communicated it just curious? it is not close to like new more like, like used for 10 years lol

bp1983 · 9 January 2013, 01:11 PM

what if the seller refuses to return? and did he send you pictures?

Z-Sub · 9 January 2013, 01:15 PM

Definitely not like new.

Did you get a few pictures from the seller? How did you pay for it? Hope it works out.

btinl · 9 January 2013, 01:15 PM

not a chance. return it

Andad · 9 January 2013, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c9smw

I've spoken to the owner of the shop & he has agreed to send his courier to collect the watch & give me a refund (hopefully a full one) !!!
He says he made a mistake, he has 2 THC's in stock but it is the black dial one that is like new !!!!!
If I receive a full refund then it's just a lesson learned, anything other than a full refund & I will name & shame !!!!

It would seem that not many read post 29.

The seller made a mistake and described the wrong watch.
He said he will fix his mistake.

bp1983 · 9 January 2013, 01:39 PM

is there a guide or guideline to show how to describe a used watch you are selling? to some people like new might be one thing compared to another persons like new,,,how do you describe it fairly because sometimes pictures dont tell the full story? any thoughts?

bp1983 · 9 January 2013, 11:57 PM

what would that condition be described as? good? bad? like how should the seller have communicated it just curious? any thoughts on this? how would one decide how to describe the condition of the watch,,one persons like new may differ from anothers persons how would one describe the watch fairly?

mvp1222 · 10 January 2013, 02:32 AM

Not sure what the forum members think of PayPal, but I always use PayPal when possible. In fact I prefer it over credit card and definitely over bank transfer. You usually have to shell out the extra 3% but you are 100% covered by PayPal for ALL transactions. That way as long as you send it back via trackable means you are covered for the entire transaction. Just my $.02.

Cru Jones · 10 January 2013, 02:38 AM

fingers crossed that all end's well. what a wild ride this must have been for you.

honeybear · 10 January 2013, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp1983

what would that condition be described as? good? bad? like how should the seller have communicated it just curious? it is not close to like new more like, like used for 10 years lol

I think we can all agree that the watch in question isn't in like new condition. As for describing watches in general, I think it is best to be as detailed on your description as possible, state what the blemishes are and how severe they are.

9 January 2013, 08:56 AM	#63
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9 January 2013, 09:04 AM	#65
honeybear "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Watch: Vacheron Overseas Posts: 297	That is unacceptable, and the condition nowhere justifies the term "like new." I hope you get a full refund. __________________ Patek Philippe Calatrava 5119J; Vacheron Constantin Overseas; Jaeger-LeCoultre Grande Reverso Duo; Rolex Submariner 114060; Baume and Mercier Hampton Annual Calendar; Tudor Heritage Black Bay.

9 January 2013, 09:08 AM	#66
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	That's BS. Send it back forthwith & never ever do business with them again. No way can you describe that watch as like new. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

9 January 2013, 11:24 AM	#73
Rock 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rocky Location: Australia Watch: Grail:Bluesy Posts: 17,840	The response received from the seller suggests that it was an honest (if foolish) mistake. The proof will be when you have received a full refund. Unfortunately 'long-distance' transactions often bring problems. They are a last resort when you simply cannot get what you want locally. __________________ Cellini 4112. Sub 14060M. DJ 16233. Rotherhams 1847 Pocket-watch. Foundation Member of 'Horologists Anonymous' "Hi, I'm Rocky, and I'm a Horologist..."

9 January 2013, 11:48 AM	#75
smartson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Roger Location: Toronto Posts: 604	I hope you didn't pay the 'like new' price! __________________ 116610LV Tudor 79190 Seiko MM300 Seiko SDGM001

9 January 2013, 08:24 AM	#61
Dream99 Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Alan Location: Bristol. UK Posts: 621	Definately return it and send recorded delivery to ensure "they get it" and cant say they did not.

9 January 2013, 08:56 AM	#64
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	Geez....that's like new? I'm afraid to ask what mint looks like. Hope it works out.

9 January 2013, 09:12 AM	#68
jimbones43 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Jim Location: Earth Posts: 1,067	Misrepresented! I would return it!

9 January 2013, 09:23 AM	#70
j.alex "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Brazil Posts: 554	No Sent from  iPad using Tapatalk

9 January 2013, 10:53 AM	#72
TopNotchChach "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Near the Ocean! Watch: 116610 Posts: 1,299	i would be pissed.

9 January 2013, 11:53 AM	#76
mikkolopez "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 2,301	2012 THC huh? Even if I wear that watch for at least 6 months straight, I could never get it scratched like that. So no I won't be the least bit happy with that. It looked to me like it has gone thru some tough times. I'd say chase them up and they fix it up for you. Either they give you the black (and hopefully like new) dialled that he claims or full refund.

9 January 2013, 12:49 PM	#80
kenthek Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: nc Posts: 53	not as represented you got took - sorry to hear that liekwas said you can acpcet soem scratches when epxected but not on an item represented "as new" - return it or get compensation for a well worn watch

9 January 2013, 01:11 PM	#81
bp1983 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 118	what would that condition be described as? good? bad? like how should the seller have communicated it just curious? it is not close to like new more like, like used for 10 years lol

9 January 2013, 01:15 PM	#83
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	Definitely not like new. Did you get a few pictures from the seller? How did you pay for it? Hope it works out. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

9 January 2013, 01:15 PM	#84
btinl 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Watch: on my wrist Posts: 1,962	not a chance. return it

9 January 2013, 01:39 PM	#86
bp1983 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 118	is there a guide or guideline to show how to describe a used watch you are selling? to some people like new might be one thing compared to another persons like new,,,how do you describe it fairly because sometimes pictures dont tell the full story? any thoughts?

9 January 2013, 11:57 PM	#87
bp1983 Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 118	what would that condition be described as? good? bad? like how should the seller have communicated it just curious? any thoughts on this? how would one decide how to describe the condition of the watch,,one persons like new may differ from anothers persons how would one describe the watch fairly?

10 January 2013, 02:32 AM	#88
mvp1222 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: Miami-ish Watch: 116400 GV Z-Blue Posts: 130	Not sure what the forum members think of PayPal, but I always use PayPal when possible. In fact I prefer it over credit card and definitely over bank transfer. You usually have to shell out the extra 3% but you are 100% covered by PayPal for ALL transactions. That way as long as you send it back via trackable means you are covered for the entire transaction. Just my $.02.

10 January 2013, 02:38 AM	#89
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,243	fingers crossed that all end's well. what a wild ride this must have been for you.

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