AP Emergency, please help

[kissfromarose]

Interesting issue to have with the APs.

My friends and I have this thing where we ask each other whether we felt any pain (financial or level of difficulty to get something) upon a new acquisition of anything. We have all agreed that there is some relationship of the duration and intensity of our enjoyment of that item and the amount of pain we feel.

Unfortunately for many, it takes higher and higher dollar values to elicit "pain". Therefore, slow and steady may actually work better.

Seems like your APs have been quite easy for you to acquire from both financial and getting AP to bend over backwards for you standpoints. May be time to find something else or figure out if you can appreciate things that don't present as much of a challenge to possess.

There is a lot of empowering on this board (which may not always be a good thing!) and many of us would love to even try on a lot of the watches you've owned. I wish you the best of luck in sorting out this issue with APs and any others that may come up!

[conkers]

You are absolutely right, of course, and I don't mean to sound like I am complaining at all on the AP front, I have been very fortunate for sure.

As regards snake oil in high end audio, let's not go there, it's a whole other debate QueueCumber!! Completely and utterly agree, and on the diminishing returns. The Wilsons are singing ok in my large room, although I am now having to bridge extra Krell power amps to tighten them up that final fraction. I am pretty happy all round, and at the end of the day, that's the most important thing.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by conkers

As regards snake oil in high end audio, let's not go there, it's a whole other debate QueueCumber!! Completely and utterly agree, and on the diminishing returns. The Wilsons are singing ok in my large room, although I am now having to bridge extra Krell power amps to tighten them up that final fraction. I am pretty happy all round, and at the end of the day, that's the most important thing.

Did you have someone come do the Wilson setup method? I learned how to do it myself. The best placement in my room was unfortunately too close to the walls for a setup that had a retracting screen, and too far from the surround setup to allow me to use 5.1, so I had to use the second best placements...

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by kissfromarose

Interesting issue to have with the APs.

My friends and I have this thing where we ask each other whether we felt any pain (financial or level of difficulty to get something) upon a new acquisition of anything. We have all agreed that there is some relationship of the duration and intensity of our enjoyment of that item and the amount of pain we feel.

Unfortunately for many, it takes higher and higher dollar values to elicit "pain". Therefore, slow and steady may actually work better.

Seems like your APs have been quite easy for you to acquire from both financial and getting AP to bend over backwards for you standpoints. May be time to find something else or figure out if you can appreciate things that don't present as much of a challenge to possess.

There is a lot of empowering on this board (which may not always be a good thing!) and many of us would love to even try on a lot of the watches you've owned. I wish you the best of luck in sorting out this issue with APs and any others that may come up!

Well, I think for the overachievers in this world, and extreme passionists it becomes a scary reality !

For me, I appreciated things more when it was harder to get/achieve, when I didn't have a collection or abundance or whatever it may be (shoes, cars, watches) all of the material BS… It's become a sport for me now, the hunt… the wheeling and dealing, the closing.. Then i'm onto the next before I even get the watch (hence my last thread of august acquisitions) it's sickening…

Hope I don't sound like an ass, i'm actually quite realistic and humble.. I'm self evaluating my life as of this past year, where I do not seem satisfied by much , hell, even my fantasy life living on the beach and working less than half the year…

Balance is key? How does one get so bored.. I'm still trying to understand it myself, and realize i'm going a bit deeper than the original thread intended. But may I be onto something? I think it is all plausible and intertwined perhaps.

Roger, what is it for you? Shed some light, why are you feeling this way?

[Presa canary]

I need a new job....

[kissfromarose]

Originally Posted by conkers

You are absolutely right, of course, and I don't mean to sound like I am complaining at all on the AP front, I have been very fortunate for sure.

Didn't think you sounded like you were complaining at all. It is a legitimate feeling! I love my ROO 44mm RG Novelty but I sometimes wonder if I should have taken a more gradual path. My daily is a Milgauss and this was gifted to me. I hadn't actually bought a watch other than a digital one for myself previously over 20 years ago. As stated by iLLGT2, part of it is the process of acquisition... almost more so than the result.

While I am by no means at your stage with AP, I can definitely understand where you are coming from in different avenues in my life. I've personally found that hobbies that absolutely must take time and effort to improve at are usually good at keeping me satisfactorily frustrated.

[AK797]

I think you guys are right about getting the watches too easily and then quickly moving on to the next or just getting bored with the whole thing. I'm in a position where I could actually buy 2 or 3 "grail" type pieces I want right now, but Id rather be sensible and considered, how I was brought up, and take my time and plan and dream of them before buying as I'd hate to wake up one morning and think I've got everything I want and say I'm pretty much done with this great hobby.

[benlee]

Reading this thread, there might actually be a case against getting too much, too fast. I myself have been on a break neck pace of watch acquisition ever since I caught the bug end of last year. From my first Rolex in Jan until now, in 9 months, I have gotten 8 more watches, adding a new watch nearly every month or two. Everytime I told myself this is the last one, it is too much, and then I got another one. It's really crazy. And this forum full of enablers doesn't help.

So even though I can afford a few more, it is more prudent for me to take the slower route now, so that there is more to look forward to. Like everything in life, there is always possible to have too much of a good thing.

Meantime, I just have to buy one last one .....

[AshAP]

Shit! This thread has really opened my eyes to what a sad bunch of losers read this site.

[mb23]

Can't believe you sold them all Roger, so many nice pieces on that list. Maybe, it's time to just have 2 or 3 pieces that will be worn in a nice rotation and covering all scenarios. A sport, dress, and of course something over the top!

Patek... ;)

[diver2012]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Shit! This thread has really opened my eyes to what a sad bunch of losers read this site.

[steveclocks]

Originally Posted by v5cog

I had the very same thing with my first love of Breitlings, but after owning 5 of them, I got bored quickly and now own just one... I looked at AP as a massive aspirational dream purchase, and finally owning one was a huge milestone for me...but although i still love my Bumblebee and at present have no wish (or funds) to further the collection, I know that if i add to the AP collection the desire might wear off... So I agree with 111forza keep it simple...Stick with just one.. You'll love looking at it day after day, rather than having four or five and getting bored.
I'm sure you'll find a piece that will light the desire again roger,
Just my humble opinion ...

maybe humble, but clear, sound and wise ! I agree with you 100%

[steveclocks]

Originally Posted by AK797

I think you guys are right about getting the watches too easily and then quickly moving on to the next or just getting bored with the whole thing. I'm in a position where I could actually buy 2 or 3 "grail" type pieces I want right now, but Id rather be sensible and considered, how I was brought up, and take my time and plan and dream of them before buying as I'd hate to wake up one morning and think I've got everything I want and say I'm pretty much done with this great hobby.

That's a marvellous attitude Neil, don't change it man

[abnerc15]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Shit! This thread has really opened my eyes to what a sad bunch of losers read this site.

[ec00421]

Why not go for ROO Grande Complication? :)

[padi56]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Shit! This thread has really opened my eyes to what a sad bunch of losers read this site.

Dont think that remark was wanted or needed on this forum I only warn once next time you might not be so lucky.

Originally Posted by diver2012

So you too think that remark was funny well I don't.

Originally Posted by abnerc15

And same goes for you, post nice or don't post at all, its your choice.

[abnerc15]

Originally Posted by padi56

Dont think that remark was wanted or needed on this forum I only warn once next time you might not be so lucky.


So you too think that remark was funny well I don't.



And same goes for you, post nice or don't post at all, its your choice.

Well we have our own opinions... I beg to differ...

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by benlee

Reading this thread, there might actually be a case against getting too much, too fast. I myself have been on a break neck pace of watch acquisition ever since I caught the bug end of last year. From my first Rolex in Jan until now, in 9 months, I have gotten 8 more watches, adding a new watch nearly every month or two. Everytime I told myself this is the last one, it is too much, and then I got another one. It's really crazy. And this forum full of enablers doesn't help.

So even though I can afford a few more, it is more prudent for me to take the slower route now, so that there is more to look forward to. Like everything in life, there is always possible to have too much of a good thing.

Meantime, I just have to buy one last one .....

Buy as many as you like, the target just keeps changing... lol...

[conkers]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Did you have someone come do the Wilson setup method? I learned how to do it myself. The best placement in my room was unfortunately too close to the walls for a setup that had a retracting screen, and too far from the surround setup to allow me to use 5.1, so I had to use the second best placements...

Yes, the team spent a day here - the glass walls behind the speakers caused them a major problem. What I've ended up with is totally domestically unacceptable, but sounds very pleasing though! They tried to convince me to go down the Gotham sub route, but stuck with Velodyne, which is doing a great job. The Gotham sub is just remarkable!

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

For me, I appreciated things more when it was harder to get/achieve, when I didn't have a collection or abundance or whatever it may be (shoes, cars, watches) all of the material BS… It's become a sport for me now, the hunt… the wheeling and dealing, the closing.. Then i'm onto the next before I even get the watch (hence my last thread of august acquisitions) it's sickening…

This resonates a lot for me. So I do a load of buying and then realise I still haven't found "the one" or "the ones", and I have a massive clear out and regroup. I think I may just be suffering from boredom, and possibly a mid-life crisis. Maybe I need to buy a Harley.

Originally Posted by kissfromarose

I've personally found that hobbies that absolutely must take time and effort to improve at are usually good at keeping me satisfactorily frustrated.

You have clearly seen me play golf.

Originally Posted by AK797

I think you guys are right about getting the watches too easily and then quickly moving on to the next or just getting bored with the whole thing. I'm in a position where I could actually buy 2 or 3 "grail" type pieces I want right now, but Id rather be sensible and considered, how I was brought up, and take my time and plan and dream of them before buying as I'd hate to wake up one morning and think I've got everything I want and say I'm pretty much done with this great hobby.

Easier said than done my friend!

Originally Posted by benlee

Meantime, I just have to buy one last one .....

One last fix for the road!

Originally Posted by mb23

Can't believe you sold them all Roger, so many nice pieces on that list. Maybe, it's time to just have 2 or 3 pieces that will be worn in a nice rotation and covering all scenarios. A sport, dress, and of course something over the top!

Patek... ;)

A very shrewd comment Mike - you know I am trying to sort that out!

Originally Posted by ejsc421

Why not go for ROO Grande Complication? :)

I was offered one - I wouldn't sink that much money into an AP however much I loved it, only Patek at that stratosphere. 5208 would do nicely!

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Buy as many as you like, the target just keeps changing... lol...

Anyway, an update, I have been offered a cracking deal on the ROO Rose Gold/Carbon Tourbillon, but am worried I will get bored within 3 months and will be faced with a huge loss when I try to get out. Not sure what to do.......

[conkers]

Duplicate

[benlee]

Originally Posted by conkers

Anyway, an update, I have been offered a cracking deal on the ROO Rose Gold/Carbon Tourbillon, but am worried I will get bored within 3 months and will be faced with a huge loss when I try to get out. Not sure what to do.......

Go for the PP 5208P Roger it's my dream within a dream grail watch. Can't get better than this.

[conkers]

Originally Posted by benlee

Go for the PP 5208P Roger it's my dream within a dream grail watch. Can't get better than this.

Tough to find one if you are not part of Mr Stern's inner sanctum!

[benlee]

Originally Posted by conkers

Tough to find one if you are not part of Mr Stern's inner sanctum!

Yes, unfortunately. These are very very rare pieces. And high complication watch needs "qualification" before Patek will sell you one. But with your track record for PP and an AD to vouch for you, can give it a try.

[conkers]

With my track record for trading, PP have probably already blackballed me for specials!

[benlee]

Originally Posted by conkers

With my track record for trading, PP have probably already blackballed me for specials!

[orangedial]

Originally Posted by conkers

With my track record for trading, PP have probably already blackballed me for specials!

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by conkers

Yes, the team spent a day here - the glass walls behind the speakers caused them a major problem. What I've ended up with is totally domestically unacceptable, but sounds very pleasing though! They tried to convince me to go down the Gotham sub route, but stuck with Velodyne, which is doing a great job. The Gotham sub is just remarkable!



This resonates a lot for me. So I do a load of buying and then realise I still haven't found "the one" or "the ones", and I have a massive clear out and regroup. I think I may just be suffering from boredom, and possibly a mid-life crisis. Maybe I need to buy a Harley.



You have clearly seen me play golf.



Easier said than done my friend!



One last fix for the road!



A very shrewd comment Mike - you know I am trying to sort that out!



I was offered one - I wouldn't sink that much money into an AP however much I loved it, only Patek at that stratosphere. 5208 would do nicely!





Anyway, an update, I have been offered a cracking deal on the ROO Rose Gold/Carbon Tourbillon, but am worried I will get bored within 3 months and will be faced with a huge loss when I try to get out. Not sure what to do.......

Personally, I don't find the design aesthetically appealing. I don't stay interested in watches unless I find them visually attractive. The more visually attractive it is to me, the more permanent it is in my collection. Visual aesthetics seem to be the one thing that correlates most strongly with durability of attraction for me. Even pieces that I sold that I still found visually aesthetically attractive, I miss the most, while the ones I found less attractive I miss the least. That has been my experience at least...

[conkers]

Originally Posted by QueueCumber

Personally, I don't find the design aesthetically appealing. I don't stay interested in watches unless I find them visually attractive. The more visually attractive it is to me, the more permanent it is in my collection. Visual aesthetics seem to be the one thing that correlates most strongly with durability of attraction for me. Even pieces that I sold that I still found visually aesthetically attractive, I miss the most, while the ones I found less attractive I miss the least. That has been my experience at least...

Thanks, it's a great comment. I would prefer it with a ceramic bezel (which I should be able to sort out), but the fact I have been umming and ahhing about this one for a few weeks suggests it not "the one".........

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by conkers

Thanks, it's a great comment. I would prefer it with a ceramic bezel (which I should be able to sort out), but the fact I have been umming and ahhing about this one for a few weeks suggests it not "the one".........

Some pieces I am instantly attracted to more than others once I see it in person. I will say that it depends on what the "ummin and ahhing" is about. You can have that intense physical attraction to a piece, but still have second thoughts about other issues related to its purchase, e.g. the price and/or the extravagance of the piece. Knowing whether the second thoughts, and second guessing, are about the visual aesthetics or some other factor is very important.

When I went and saw the Schumis in person I had it set in my mind that I would purchase the RG, but when I saw how great the Ti looked in person and how great it looked on my wrist, I was "umming and ahhing" about which one to purchase. I made a choice for the RG, but over the weekend I told them to hold the Ti for me, and then I was "umming and ahhing" about spending the money since I had a few pieces already on order coming in later in the summer...

[iLLGT2]

Originally Posted by conkers

Thanks, it's a great comment. I would prefer it with a ceramic bezel (which I should be able to sort out), but the fact I have been umming and ahhing about this one for a few weeks suggests it not "the one".........

You already know it isn't the one... Move on and don't even consider it, it'll just be another piece to move and lose cash on...

For me, Grand Prix carbon will keep me happy as my one piece forever... I'm pretty confident about that actually!