why the price difference?

[mannyv11]

Originally Posted by balboa73

I gave mine.

I started this thread as an experiment. Padi thought i was insane

i agree with padi

[dysondiver]

Originally Posted by balboa73

wow. Rolex forum and everyone is basically just saying their paying for the NAME

there has to be more to it

timex ,,, rolex ,, very close ,,, in many ways


but a world apart in others.

[garymyman]

Originally Posted by balboa73

if you read the thread from the start you would understand what i was getting at. I wasnt trolling. What i have learned however is that many honestly believe that everything is 'marketing' and not 'quality'. what a pity

under that line of thinking a steel ORIS is on par with a Rolex BUT the Rolex commands more $$ because of 'marketing'

what a crock

Literally no one said that.

[sco]

Originally Posted by balboa73

if you read the thread from the start you would understand what i was getting at. I wasnt trolling. What i have learned however is that many honestly believe that everything is 'marketing' and not 'quality'. what a pity

under that line of thinking a steel ORIS is on par with a Rolex BUT the Rolex commands more $$ because of 'marketing'

what a crock

Nevermind...

[jack81]

Im waiting for someone to post the pic of robin saying "breitli..." n got slapped by batman saying "rolex"

[balboa73]

Originally Posted by sco

Thanks for the time waste, go experiment somewhere else.

no need to ban. i honestly didnt think i would get the 'marketing' angle as the only difference.

im shocked that many people are that ignorant

my quote from the Breitling forum sums up my belief. The Breitling is a fine watch but Rolex is simply on another level for various reasons that many know, especially Padi

sorry if i offended anyone

[watchwatcher]

Well for starters, a Breitling and a Rolex are not the exact same watch. Buy both and see what I'm talking about.

[dysondiver]

long and short of it is simple ,,,
either you want brand a ,
or you want brand b
its your money , your choice , make up your mind and spend on what your head or heart tells you to do ,, or look at your phone for the time.
simple.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by mannyv11

i agree with padi

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by balboa73

no. OP wants to know why a Rolex Sub C costs more than a Superocean in others opinions

i know why

Im just dont understand others who say its only the name on the dial. no its not

Rolex simply has a better product and no one can answer why?

Like others have said, Rolex uses higher quality parts across the board. Rolex uses in-house movements, higher quality steel, ceramic bezels, etc... Rolex is also very thoughtful with the little details (e.g., WG hands and lume surrounds on the dial). Does the cost of the upgraded materials justify the ~2x price difference? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe not. What these materials do, though, is set Rolex apart from many other companies. Rolex offers truly high quality watches at, what I believe, is a reasonable price. Rolex is known for its quality and history. I am happy to pay a premium price for a premium watch.

[JJL]

ugh, nm

[Spartacus]

Judging by your post, you are young, and have not been afforded a proper education. So I will entertain your question.

COSC is meaningless. Seriously. Value/Price are not set by the market based on whether or not a watch has COSC. Some brands use it, other not. Using it as a comparison is naïve. Actually, for the most part, when evaluating Value/Price in the luxury market you can ALMOST take out time keeping capability. I could probably argue that the ability of a watch to keep 'COSC' or 'Accurate' time is irrelevant - see vintage market or fashion brands like Chanel and Hermes.

Top 3 Reasons
1. Rolex uses more precious metals, even in their SS models. Platinum or White Gold is common in many different parts of the watch, including the ceramic bezel.
2. Rolex has better engineered parts, crown, trip-lock, clasp, dial
3. Rolex makes movement in house driving cost/price up, not an ETA movement, (3rd party purchase = cheaper) And, they continue to advance the movement ex. paramagnetic blue Parachrom hairspring.

[Roller07]

Spartacus, don't get the OP started again, please. He knew the answer before he asked the question.

[balboa73]

Originally Posted by Spartacus

Judging by your post, you are young, and have not been afforded a proper education. So I will entertain your question.

COSC is meaningless. Seriously. Value/Price are not set by the market based on whether or not a watch has COSC. Some brands use it, other not. Using it as a comparison is naïve. Actually, for the most part, when evaluating Value/Price in the luxury market you can ALMOST take out time keeping capability. I could probably argue that the ability of a watch to keep 'COSC' or 'Accurate' time is irrelevant - see vintage market or fashion brands like Chanel and Hermes.

Top 3 Reasons
1. Rolex uses more precious metals, even in their SS models. Platinum or White Gold is common in many different parts of the watch, including the ceramic bezel.
2. Rolex has better engineered parts, crown, trip-lock, clasp, dial
3. Rolex makes movement in house driving cost/price up, not an ETA movement, (3rd party purchase = cheaper) And, they continue to advance the movement ex. paramagnetic blue Parachrom hairspring.

too late. i already knew this. i started this thread as an experiment. i agree with you 1000%

[bondtoys]

Let me explain it with a german saying (I am sure there is something similar in english)

Q: Why does my dog lick his b(censored)ls?
A: Because he can!

Q: Why does Rolex charge more than Breitling?
A: Because they can!

[Spartacus]

Originally Posted by balboa73

too late. i already knew this. i started this thread as an experiment. i agree with you 1000%

I didn't know you were a troll. But now I know

[balboa73]

Originally Posted by Roller07

Spartacus, don't get the OP started again, please. He knew the answer before he asked the question.

i sure did and was extremely shocked to see how many people responded with the 'marketing' angle...caught me off guard

sad that many feel its that 'simple'

[dysondiver]

rhetorically speaking .,

what do you call those questions that you ask

that you dont really want answered.

[powerfunk]

The question would be more relevant if you chose a Breitling with an in-house movement. Rolex's fit and finish is a little bit better IMHO, and their designs are more universally popular. They both make some great watches. Whatev.

[Docar]

Stripped down to the very basics...

Rolex markets their watches better than Breitling; or almost
any other watch company.

Folks are willing to pay for perception.

[balboa73]

Originally Posted by Spartacus

I didn't know you were a troll. But now I know

a troll posts things to fire people up. i started a thread to make a point and sadly early on i was dissapointed.

sometimes it has to be done to shut those up that say 'its all marketing'

Padi didnt dissapoint, he knew what i was saying was ludicrous.

[balboa73]

Originally Posted by Docar

Stripped down to the very basics...

Rolex markets their watches better than Breitling; or almost
any other watch company.

Folks are willing to pay for perception.

disagree

much more than marketing. shame on you.

[balboa73]

Originally Posted by powerfunk

The question would be more relevant if you chose a Breitling with an in-house movement. Rolex's fit and finish is a little bit better IMHO, and their designs are more universally popular. They both make some great watches. Whatev.

unfortunatly breitling only makes chrono in house movements. very nice but still not on par with the daytona chrono

[balboa73]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Let me explain it with a german saying (I am sure there is something similar in english)

Q: Why does my dog lick his b(censored)ls?
A: Because he can!

Q: Why does Rolex charge more than Breitling?
A: Because they can!

really? nothing else? nothing?

are you sure their are not any other reasons? any?

[Louscamaro91]

I think marketing does have a part of why they command such a high value.
I'm not doubting a Rolex is a better watch than Breitling, I really would know it if it is or not. I don't own a Breitling and could care less to own one. reason I own 5 rolex watches, is they produce a watch that isn't too busy, it's classy and "known" as a fantastic timepiece that holds value and prestige.

[Art 1]

Marketing, history, pedigree, resale, supply and demand. Actually the Steelfish has a much better bracelet then the Sub and is just as tough of a watch, maybe tougher. The Rolex movement it better, the Breitling movement is good enough.

[iazrollie]

OP fancies himself Socrates. Maybe a Harvard Law professor?? Or, is he just getting his post-count up to avoid acquisitions he is a troll.

[balboa73]

Originally Posted by iazrollie

OP fancies himself Socrates. Maybe a Harvard Law professor?? Or, is he just getting his post-count up to avoid acquisitions he is a troll.

my point has been proven. if thats 'trolling' than so be it. I dont see it that way.

its funny how on all watch forums anytime someone makes a brand a v.s brand b thread its considered 'trolling'

there IS a reason that Tissot Oris Breitling Omega Rolex PP are all at different price points.

whats Grand Seikos reason for high prices? is it marketing? nope because most are too ignorant to understand the difference between Grand Seiko and Seiko. They charge the $$ they do because of build quality movement quality attention to detail etc

this is the point. its not just 'marketing'.

if i asked why is breitling better than Tissot would i be a troll?

because breitling is much closer to Tissot than Breitling is too Rolex. the specs say so.

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by balboa73

so basically Rolex is better built, better engine(movement), better overall quality?

is that what i am to understand?

there you go you got it

[balboa73]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

there you go you got it

agreed. i see that many however dont seem to understand this.

its all 'marketing'

sure it is......