Rolex vs AP - as a watch brand

[jjnd08]

Originally Posted by texex91

Guys please don't feed the trolls....

Good call, Paul.

[bio guyver]

I'm a rolex guy.... :) and what I'm saying is a fact. I know pp and ap are all very well made watchs and maybe more complicated more than a rolex but this is the fact the fact says rolex is powerful in all aspects.

[RUpanerai]

In terms of pricing there is no comparison, men's sports models start about 15k and Rolex are about 5k. Obviously Rolex's have a more time tested design and history being that they make 100x or more watches than AP has ever produced. Rolex is a much more obtainable brand for most and AP is in a difference price stratosphere, which I guess puts them in "different leagues". AP's fit and finish is by far the best in the industry for sports watches IMHO and their movements are probably slightly more refined, but this does not imply "better" just more finishing details go into them.

Its really comparing apples and oranges with the question. I have always have both in my collection and appreciate what each one brings to the table.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by texex91

Guys please don't feed the trolls....

But Paul, the country leaders wears them and are proud!

[landroverking]

Reminds me of the guy who got mugged wearing a 200k watch.
It wasn't taken in the mugging. It didn't say Rolex on the dial.
That's all that seems to matter to some.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by GB-man

But Paul, the country leaders wears them and are proud!

Don't mess with Hank Jr.

[Le Chef]

Originally Posted by texex91

Guys please don't feed the trolls....

You're right. People who can't be bothered to do their homework should be discounted - no valid point of view worth having without 1st hand experience.

[DR.Golf]

Rolex is like a good wife. Steady, always there for you. Not flashy, but can impress the right crowd.

AP is like a hot mistress. Hot and everyone just has to look, cant keep their eyes off her.

The Rolex guys just don't know what they are missing.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by landroverking

Reminds me of the guy who got mugged wearing a 200k watch.
It wasn't taken in the mugging. It didn't say Rolex on the dial.
That's all that seems to matter to some.

Great story, a modern day parable.

[NoVaSubowner]

Originally Posted by bio guyver

And winner in this game is mostly the rolex. In all aspects

This guy does not need feeding. He is already binged out on a fanboy diet.

[Great_mazinger]

IMHO one has great design and the other is just meh.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by NoVaSubowner

This guy does not need feeding. He is already binged out on a fanboy diet.

Yup.

[Jakx]

AP is very different from Rolex even in the way they share a common sports heritage. At the risk of sounding pedantic to the many who are initiated to both brands, it is important to remember what makes AP so unlike Rolex (both brands being superbly outstanding in their own rights). The uniqueness of AP can be traced to the marriage of high-level complications with the very concept of a sports watch. Prior to the launching of the ROO, haute horlogerie had not traditionally mixed with everyday activity watches. As their current advertising campaign says, AP did in fact break the rules with the Offshore. You simply didn't put a haute horlogerie movement in an (grossly at the time) oversized waterproof chronograph! Now Richard Mille is probably the other famous brand that has taken the idea and is running with it to a place no-one would have dreamed even only a few years ago. Hublot (I hesitate to bring up the name in this forum), and to a lesser degree GP are playing precisely out of the same playbook of tradition, high-tech materials and complications. In sharp contrast, Rolex has remained content to keep the complications to a minimum (even the Skydweller) and the materials have remained pretty much the traditional metals (cerachrom and their own gold foundry notwithstanding). Finally, as mentioned already in this thread and in many other places (see the 1993 book "Audemars Piguet"), in the world of haute horlogerie, AP is the only brand that remains in the hands of the descendants of the eponymous founding members in the 19th century. Yves Piaget, PP, VC, Rolex have all been taken over by other interests, and most would say, with extremely successful results.

[descartes]

Never "got" AP until I tried on a 15300 and had to have it.

Love Rolex, but fit and finish of AP is beyond….

[VICI]

My 2 fav watch houses.

[jjnd08]

Originally Posted by GB-man

But Paul, the country leaders wears them and are proud!

[VICI]

Originally Posted by Lausanne

AP is very different from Rolex even in the way they share a common sports heritage. At the risk of sounding pedantic to the many who are initiated to both brands, it is important to remember what makes AP so unlike Rolex (both brands being superbly outstanding in their own rights). The uniqueness of AP can be traced to the marriage of high-level complications with the very concept of a sports watch. Prior to the launching of the ROO, haute horlogerie had not traditionally mixed with everyday activity watches. As their current advertising campaign says, AP did in fact break the rules with the Offshore. You simply didn't put a haute horlogerie movement in an (grossly at the time) oversized waterproof chronograph! Now Richard Mille is probably the other famous brand that has taken the idea and is running with it to a place no-one would have dreamed even only a few years ago. Hublot (I hesitate to bring up the name in this forum), and to a lesser degree GP are playing precisely out of the same playbook of tradition, high-tech materials and complications. In sharp contrast, Rolex has remained content to keep the complications to a minimum (even the Skydweller) and the materials have remained pretty much the traditional metals (cerachrom and their own gold foundry notwithstanding). Finally, as mentioned already in this thread and in many other places (see the 1993 book "Audemars Piguet"), in the world of haute horlogerie, AP is the only brand that remains in the hands of the descendants of the eponymous founding members in the 19th century. Yves Piaget, PP, VC, Rolex have all been taken over by other interests, and most would say, with extremely successful results.

Your post is absolutely accurate 👍👍

[texex91]

Originally Posted by VICI

My 2 fav watch houses.

BOOOOOOOOOM

[samuelhuntington]

Originally Posted by Lausanne

AP is very different from Rolex even in the way they share a common sports heritage. At the risk of sounding pedantic to the many who are initiated to both brands, it is important to remember what makes AP so unlike Rolex (both brands being superbly outstanding in their own rights). The uniqueness of AP can be traced to the marriage of high-level complications with the very concept of a sports watch. Prior to the launching of the ROO, haute horlogerie had not traditionally mixed with everyday activity watches. As their current advertising campaign says, AP did in fact break the rules with the Offshore. You simply didn't put a haute horlogerie movement in an (grossly at the time) oversized waterproof chronograph! Now Richard Mille is probably the other famous brand that has taken the idea and is running with it to a place no-one would have dreamed even only a few years ago. Hublot (I hesitate to bring up the name in this forum), and to a lesser degree GP are playing precisely out of the same playbook of tradition, high-tech materials and complications. In sharp contrast, Rolex has remained content to keep the complications to a minimum (even the Skydweller) and the materials have remained pretty much the traditional metals (cerachrom and their own gold foundry notwithstanding). Finally, as mentioned already in this thread and in many other places (see the 1993 book "Audemars Piguet"), in the world of haute horlogerie, AP is the only brand that remains in the hands of the descendants of the eponymous founding members in the 19th century. Yves Piaget, PP, VC, Rolex have all been taken over by other interests, and most would say, with extremely successful results.

Great well thought out post!

Obviously room for both brands in any collection as they fill different roles. I find ap more interesting and a step above rolex for many reasons, but I'll always own a rolex, and I can't say that about ap... (I'm very new to owning the brand, but have been studying them for years)

[Jakx]

thanks!

[Jakx]

thanks! It's because all I have to do with my life is to compose long posts on TRF :)

[VICI]

Originally Posted by texex91

BOOOOOOOOOM

Thanks buddy!! 🍻🍻

Originally Posted by Lausanne

thanks! It's because all I have to do with my life is to compose long posts on TRF :)

There are worse ways to spend your life 😄

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Lausanne

thanks! It's because all I have to do with my life is to compose long posts on TRF :)

Haha you're in good company

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by texex91

I'll make it simple.

Rolex makes about 1,000,000 watches per year.
AP makes about 35,000 watches per year.

Go try one on and you'll get it. Always good to have both however in the rotation.

These threads never go anywhere, but best answer I could provide.

This exactly

[jtee85]

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